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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2014, 12:24:07 AM »
(and the jet-version TFL-J was built in 380 copies):

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2014, 12:35:32 AM »
Less famous was the Lockheed L-1010 Tristar (the first one using this name, a twin-fuselage model, yes):

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2014, 02:29:07 AM »
Civilian Lightnings were not only airliners and cargo but also sailplanes:

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2014, 12:16:21 PM »
Thanks for doing the TFL-1 - looks really good.

Less famous was the Lockheed L-1010 Tristar (the first one using this name, a twin-fuselage model, yes):

On this one, you'd need to move the wing further back for centre-of-gravity vs centre-of-lift reasons (have a look at the wing/tail positions on rear-engined airliners).

How about a Quad-Star? One engine in the rear of each fuselage with an intake in the fin Tristar-style, plus two podded engines under the centre wing section?
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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2014, 01:49:25 PM »
Yes, thanks to remind me those design corrections:
- L-1010W: Tristar with wing moved backward
- L-1010Q Quad-star with 4 jets
- L-1010Q-2 with rear wing addition

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2014, 05:06:44 PM »
From the L-1010W came the designs L-1010X, L-1010Y, L-1010Z, that led directly to the famous L-1011 (with single cabin, sadly):

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2014, 10:46:02 PM »
After the Martin China Clipper success then the Seversky Super Clipper presentation, Lockheed proposed the Lightning Clipper, with extendable floats for ditching (like on the Super Clipper):
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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2014, 12:09:55 AM »
That canīt be Topheīs work, itīs got symetry!  ;D

In another topic (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=4278.0), I've been reminded that I am not only a twin-boom fan... So, here are asymmetric Lightning airliners:

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2014, 01:16:13 AM »
I really like your Lightning Clipper and find the one on stilts especially delightful!

I can see it in Air France or Pan Am livery on the Rio de Janeiro run.

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2014, 11:02:58 AM »
Thanks a lot, Brian.

Of course Lightning airliners were not designed only by Lockheed: the Burnelli team also proposed the UB-1038A, B, C:

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2014, 05:22:32 PM »
here are asymmetric Lightning airliners:
Before jets were invented, little business jets were called business props, no?

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2014, 06:53:22 PM »
Other derivatives were designed, the only mandatory command being to avoid the boring symmetry (displeasing the customer):

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2014, 12:13:43 AM »
As the tourists of 1946 did not like complex helicopters, Lockheed proposed an autogiro with exceptionnal viewpoint: the Lightningiro

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2014, 12:28:10 AM »
The Lightningiro 2 was faster, but had a less beautiful view on the left side...

Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2014, 09:09:39 PM »
Wonderful designs as ever Tophe, and I'll admit I've 'right clicked' and saved a few ;)
For a rainy day. :)

Regards
Keith

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2014, 11:34:56 PM »
Thanks Keith! :)
and any new idea of civilian Lightning would be welcome (as long as the shape itself is clear enough without special colours)...

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2014, 11:32:49 PM »
I've been inspired by Acree's Vought Stingray at http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=4631.0
so here is a Lightsting flying-boat that was designed in the same way (to transport a few passengers from Island to Island in the Pacific Ocean, 1947):

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2014, 01:24:12 AM »
And with (inverted) V-tail and central hull:

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2014, 01:47:22 AM »
oh la la la la, all these incredible seaplanes!   :)

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2014, 01:58:10 AM »
Thanks, ericr :)
Of course, there was an asymmetric version, in this area where sailplanes are asymmetric praos...:

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2014, 11:55:48 PM »
other civilian derivatives of the previous ones: Inter-Island 38D & E

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2014, 12:30:34 PM »
The CL-380 was not an airliner but a fire-bomber, designed and built by Canadair:

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2014, 02:20:04 PM »
Sweet! :-*
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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #48 on: August 28, 2014, 02:29:15 AM »
Thanks!
And here is a little airliner with panoramic view for the 1st class passenger in the front seat.

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Re: Constellightning and others
« Reply #49 on: August 28, 2014, 02:34:38 AM »
I really like your P-38eclairJ_aaby, Tophe! It's fun to imagine what it'd be like flying in one of those wonderful, panoramic front seats!

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