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Do you want us to run a  "Clear Your Workbench" GB?

Yes
25 (100%)
No
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 25

Voting closed: September 29, 2013, 04:35:47 PM

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Offline Logan Hartke

  • High priest in the black arts of profiling...
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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2013, 03:13:36 PM »
Those are significant "in progress" times.  Do you have figures for "in stagnation" times?

Sure.  Take the "in progress" and subtract a week (at most).  That's when they get left or forgotten and not touched again until conditions allow me to revisit them or I just plain remember that they're there.

To be fair, I really should explain some more.  How long does a profile of mine take to do?  Well, it depends, but I'll say that doing the lighting, shading, etc. (all the prep work) takes many, many, many hours.  Ask Talos.  The XB-51, He 100, and V-507 took dozens of man hours of work, no exaggeration.  And that's without a drop of "paint" on them.  I shudder to think how many the P-61F took.  It may well have been hundreds.  The profiles themselves only take a few hours of actual Photoshop work, though many days of research may have gone into them.

That's why I sometimes get irritated when I ask if anyone has a request for a new scheme (which may take 6+ hours of work) and I instead get a request for a new aircraft type (which may take 6+ months of work).  I had to explain all this to my father this weekend when he flippantly suggested I do a Dornier Do 24 profile.  Besides the fact that many fantastic Do 24 profiles already exist (so my profiles would add nothing to the aircraft art world), the time required to do this would take up MONTHS of my life.  No thank you.  That's why Talos and I are so choosy with our projects.

That's also why I have only done 10 different aircraft types in the 5 years I've been profiling.  And of those, I did 4 in the first year.  At the level of detail that Talos and I put into our joint projects, we're averaging 1.5 new aircraft types a year.  Even airframe modifications are an absolute bear to do.

That should explain why I'm rather open to suggestions of "slap a new coat of paint on it", I'm rather dismissive towards suggestions of "put a different engine on it", and I'm outright hostile towards suggestions of "you should do a different aircraft altogether!"

Cheers,

Logan

Offline finsrin

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2013, 03:27:54 PM »
Thanks for explanation.  Having done NO and watched NO profiling such as you do, I don't know how involved it is.
Myself and likely others are under appreciative of how much effort has gone into the many profiles posted at BTS.

Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2013, 03:54:05 PM »
No problem, finsrin.  I'm chuffed that you were interested enough to ask.  Profilers and modelers are two different sides of the same coin.  We just work in different mediums.  I grew up watching my dad build models and made just enough ham-fisted attempts of my own to realize that it wasn't my cup of tea and that I wasn't very good at it.  I'm still fascinated and absolutely floored by them.  I still flip through copies of Fine Scale Modeler and marvel at the works of art contained in its pages, just as I was 20 years ago.

As I've said many times, though, I like to explain my craft in the hopes of encouraging others to take it up, as well.  There's no magic in what I do.  Anyone out there really could do what I do.  Six years ago, I looked at the work of those on this forum such as Doom/BlackOps, Gekko, and Sentinel Chicken and was in awe.  I knew I could never hope to do the sort of work they did.  Now, six years later...I'm getting there.  Again, no black magic, just some learned technique and a LOT of time.

Cheers,

Logan

Offline taiidantomcat

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2013, 11:20:44 AM »


"They know you can do anything, So the question is, what don't you do?"

-David Fincher

Offline Queeg

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2013, 11:38:52 AM »
Maybe we should have a longterm "post your workbench/stash" thread .......   :)

Offline GTX_Admin

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2013, 03:35:26 PM »
Maybe we should have a longterm "post your workbench/stash" thread .......   :)

Go for it.
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

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But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #56 on: November 23, 2013, 03:31:19 PM »
I thought I'd just give an update now that I'm done with one.

Besides the two Vought Vikings and [two] Heinkel He 46G that I've already submitted, I have the following profiles that are largely unfinished that should be eligible for this GB and I might (with luck) finish.  I've included their estimated "in progress" time in parentheses.

1x Martin B-51 Panther (4 years, 4 months) In Progress.
1x Vought Viking (3 years, 8 months) On Talos.
1x Heinkel He 46G (1 year, 9 months) Done.
1x Martin B-51 Panther (1 year, 5 months)
1x Northrop P-61F Widow (5 months)

Cheers,

Logan

Offline finsrin

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #57 on: November 23, 2013, 04:03:36 PM »
Every one is less than 5 years - congrats -  :)

Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #58 on: November 24, 2013, 01:25:34 PM »
Thanks!  Under 4 years now!  5 done, 3 to go!

1x Martin B-51 Panther (4 years, 4 months) Done.
1x Vought Viking (3 years, 8 months) On Talos.
1x Heinkel He 46G (1 year, 9 months) Done.
1x Martin B-51 Panther (1 year, 5 months)
1x Northrop P-61F Widow (5 months)

Cheers,

Logan

Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #59 on: November 27, 2013, 10:38:46 PM »
Only two unfinished projects left!

1x Martin B-51 Panther (4 years, 4 months) Done.
1x Vought Viking (3 years, 8 months) On Talos/In Progress.
1x Heinkel He 46G (1 year, 9 months) Done.
1x Martin B-51 Panther (1 year, 5 months) On Talos.
1x Northrop P-61F Widow (5 months) Done.

Cheers,

Logan

Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #60 on: December 01, 2013, 10:59:27 PM »
Well, I've been productive with this GB.  So far, I've finished six profiles:

3x Vought V-187 Vikings
1x Heinkel He 46G
1x Handley Page Panther
1x Northrop P-61F Widow

I have two left to do:

1x Vought V-187 Viking
1x Handley Page Panther

...but they both need some pieces from Talos to finish, so I'll start on some other profiles now (not for this GB).  Maybe a V-507 or Heinkel He 100?

Cheers,

Logan

Offline CSMO

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #61 on: December 07, 2013, 01:32:36 PM »
This un-natural act was photographed last Sunday night. Things are messily back to normal. Adios, Larry. 8)

Field Artillerymen do it with a bigger BANG!

Offline GTX_Admin

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #62 on: December 08, 2013, 02:41:45 AM »
 ;D
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Offline PR19_Kit

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #63 on: December 08, 2013, 04:24:55 AM »
That's FAR too tidy for real modelling, are you sure it's not your wife's?
Regards
Kit

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Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #64 on: December 08, 2013, 10:57:57 AM »
Well, I was looking to start another He 100 and I realized that I already had one in progress.  So, I'll have one of those to submit to this GB, too.

1x Martin B-51 Panther (4 years, 4 months) Done.
1x Vought Viking (3 years, 9 months) Done.
1x Vought Viking (3 years, 8 months) On Talos.
1x Heinkel He 46G (1 year, 9 months) Done.
1x Martin B-51 Panther (1 year, 5 months) On Talos.
1x Heinkel He 100 (1 year, 3 months)In Progress.
1x Northrop P-61F Widow (5 months) Done.
2x Vought Viking (2 months) Done.

Six down, three to go.

Cheers,

Logan

Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #65 on: December 10, 2013, 04:25:36 AM »
1x Martin B-51 Panther (4 years, 4 months) Done.
1x Vought Viking (3 years, 9 months) Done.
1x Vought Viking (3 years, 8 months) On Talos.
1x Heinkel He 46G (1 year, 9 months) Done.
1x Martin B-51 Panther (1 year, 5 months) On Talos.
1x Heinkel He 100 (1 year, 3 months) Done.
1x Northrop P-61F Widow (5 months) Done.
2x Vought Viking (2 months) Done.

Seven down, two to go.

Cheers,

Logan

Offline taiidantomcat

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #66 on: December 11, 2013, 09:11:02 AM »
This un-natural act was photographed last Sunday night. Things are messily back to normal. Adios, Larry. 8)


 :o

And Another fitting quote

Much good work is lost for the lack of a little more.
-- Edward H Harriman
"They know you can do anything, So the question is, what don't you do?"

-David Fincher

Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #67 on: December 11, 2013, 03:35:38 PM »
1x Martin B-51 Panther (4 years, 4 months) Done.
1x Vought Viking (3 years, 9 months) Done.
1x Vought Viking (3 years, 8 months) On Talos.
1x Heinkel He 46G (1 year, 9 months) Done.
1x Martin B-51 Panther (1 year, 5 months)) Done.
1x Heinkel He 100 (1 year, 3 months) Done.
1x Northrop P-61F Widow (5 months) Done.
2x Vought Viking (2 months) Done.

Eight down, one to go.

Cheers,

Logan

Offline finsrin

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #68 on: December 11, 2013, 03:56:15 PM »
1x Martin B-51 Panther (4 years, 4 months) Done.
1x Vought Viking (3 years, 9 months) Done.
1x Vought Viking (3 years, 8 months) On Talos.
1x Heinkel He 46G (1 year, 9 months) Done.
1x Martin B-51 Panther (1 year, 5 months)) Done.
1x Heinkel He 100 (1 year, 3 months) Done.
1x Northrop P-61F Widow (5 months) Done.
2x Vought Viking (2 months) Done.

Eight down, one to go.

Cheers,

Logan

Congrats.    Very commendable  :)
« Last Edit: December 11, 2013, 04:01:14 PM by finsrin »

Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #69 on: December 12, 2013, 12:22:12 AM »
Congrats.    Very commendable  :)

Thanks!  I didn't realize I had that many in progress.  They were all at one end of the scale or the other, too.  Four of them were about 90% done and just needed a few finishing touches.  The other half were only just started and took a lot of work and time to finish.  These weren't just repaints, too.  I did a couple of new structural elements in these that forced me to take time out to light and shade them.

Cheers,

Logan

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #70 on: December 12, 2013, 04:36:32 AM »
This is one of the good things about this GB - it drives people to finish projects regardless of theme.
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it.

Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #71 on: December 15, 2013, 02:27:35 PM »
And in a development that should surprise no one, I can't count.

1x Martin B-51 Panther (4 years, 4 months) Done.
1x Vought Viking (3 years, 9 months) Done.
1x Vought Viking (3 years, 8 months) On Talos.
2x Heinkel He 46G (1 year, 9 months) Done.
1x Martin B-51 Panther (1 year, 5 months)) Done.
1x Heinkel He 100 (1 year, 3 months) Done.
1x Northrop P-61F Widow (5 months) Done.
2x Vought Viking (2 months) Done.

NINE down, one to go.

All told, I've completed a dozen profiles in the past six weeks.  I don't think I've finished that many profiles in such a relatively short period for quite a long time.

Cheers,

Logan

Offline Cliffy B

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #72 on: December 22, 2013, 12:26:45 PM »
So is there any possibility of an extension here or no?  With the Holidays for the next 2 weeks I don't foresee a lot of building time for many of us.  Pushing it until Mid-late January would be good I think.  Thoughts?  So far we have one physical build and Logan's 9 million profiles and Jose's profiles but that's basically it.
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Offline PR19_Kit

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #73 on: December 22, 2013, 08:04:40 PM »
I've got two physical builds on the go that should well be done by the end of the year, and another that would benefit from an extension.
Regards
Kit

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Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings

Offline Volkodav

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Re: "Clear Your Workbench" GB?
« Reply #74 on: December 22, 2013, 10:44:13 PM »
Step daughter is up for Christmas and guess which room she is staying in  :(. Cant even get to my bench, let alone clear it.