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Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => The Snoops, Sensors, Spooks, & Spies GB => Topic started by: Tophe on April 01, 2014, 10:56:29 AM

Title: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 01, 2014, 10:56:29 AM
It is already April 1st on this side of the planet, so here are Lightning electronic ears...:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P38eclairJ_aaaj.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 01, 2014, 10:58:31 AM
and Lightning visual eyes, old way:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P38eclairJ_aaal.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: taiidantomcat on April 01, 2014, 11:03:51 AM
I like these! Could use some in a U-2 layout...  ;)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 01, 2014, 12:08:02 PM
Thanks!
And here are the Bell Mustacuda (Mustang/Airacuda half-breeds for reco):
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P82-51B_an.JPG)
to be transformed in electronic spies too...
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 01, 2014, 12:15:12 PM
And here the electronic Mustacudnic(s):
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 02, 2014, 12:25:16 AM
and Lightning visual eyes, old way:
The last one seemed to have no engine (in fact I had forgotten it...) but this may be a rocket plane, with a tiny exhaust pipe:
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 02, 2014, 12:33:46 AM
Adding the missing engine, I got new Lightning spies:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P38eclairJ_aaam.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 02, 2014, 01:01:50 AM
I used aso the Lightning reco pods on Mustangs:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P82-51B_ap.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: apophenia on April 02, 2014, 06:22:46 AM
You are a twisted man Tophe!  I love the Mustacuda  :-*
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Weaver on April 02, 2014, 08:29:36 AM
The last one seemed to have no engine (in fact I had forgotten it...)

You know an aircraft designer can make himself really unpopular with pilots by doing things like that..... ;)

Love these: the glass recce pods remind me of the EXINT "people pods" proposed for the Harrier and the parachutist pods devised for the Stuka.

How about a "U-38" (just for Kit), with extended wings and outer tailplanes, a pressure cabin and nose cameras?
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 02, 2014, 11:39:36 AM
You know an aircraft designer can make himself really unpopular with pilots by doing things like that..... ;)
In the World outside (of my brains), the marketing dpt would have waken up the designer, long before the airplane is built and flown...

How about a "U-38" (just for Kit), with extended wings and outer tailplanes, a pressure cabin and nose cameras?
The U-38??! Do you mean the top secret W-38K secretly used as U-38?? I am not allowed to draw it: it is still top secret!:
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 02, 2014, 04:31:16 PM
I love that last one. :)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: PR19_Kit on April 02, 2014, 11:35:25 PM
How about a "U-38" (just for Kit), with extended wings and outer tailplanes, a pressure cabin and nose cameras?
The U-38??! Do you mean the top secret W-38K secretly used as U-38?? I am not allowed to draw it: it is still top secret!:

Oh YES!

Now that I like, a LOT even! And it's pretty buildable too, AND I have a few P-38s in The Loft as well.  :)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 03, 2014, 01:10:49 AM
Thanks! And good luck for building it (I'd be glad to vote for your one...).

And here is the missing link between electronic Mustangs and Lightnings: the EP-82 Twin-Mustonic:
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: ericr on April 03, 2014, 01:48:02 AM
How about a "U-38" (just for Kit), with extended wings and outer tailplanes, a pressure cabin and nose cameras?
The U-38??! Do you mean the top secret W-38K secretly used as U-38?? I am not allowed to draw it: it is still top secret!:

Oh YES!

Now that I like, a LOT even! And it's pretty buildable too, AND I have a few P-38s in The Loft as well.  :)

it is beautiful indeed! if you give it a shape (in 3D) I'd vote for it too

Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Weaver on April 03, 2014, 02:10:50 AM
Nice one Tophe: you nailed exactly what I was seeing in my head with the W-38K.  :) :) :)


How about a "U-38" (just for Kit), with extended wings and outer tailplanes, a pressure cabin and nose cameras?
The U-38??! Do you mean the top secret W-38K secretly used as U-38?? I am not allowed to draw it: it is still top secret!:

Oh YES!

Now that I like, a LOT even! And it's pretty buildable too, AND I have a few P-38s in The Loft as well.  :)

Thought you might..... ;)

It's even from the right company: you could retcon the back story to have Lockheed getting the U-2 job on the basis of their work on the W-38K.
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 03, 2014, 11:01:59 AM
Thanks again for the idea (and comments) about the W-38K/U-38! ;)

And here is the missing link between electronic Mustangs and Lightnings: the EP-82 Twin-Mustonic:
I have forgotten the other missing link: the reco Twin-Lightnings:
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 03, 2014, 11:36:20 AM
Of course, a reco plane is not a fighter and does not require the power of 2 engines. This provides us with asymmetric derivatives:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P38eclairJ_aaar.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 04, 2014, 01:28:11 PM
Thanks to raafif revealing the CIA-38 at http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=4248.0 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=4248.0)
here are the CIA-38, CIA-3838, CIA-3839:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P38eclairJ_aaas.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 04, 2014, 10:59:09 PM
Thanks to raafif revealing the CIA-38 at [url]http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=4248.0[/url] ([url]http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=4248.0[/url])
At the same adress, The Big Gimper presented another inspiring marvel:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P38eclairJ_aaat.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 05, 2014, 02:25:25 AM
Related Mustangs:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P82-51B_as.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 05, 2014, 04:02:39 AM
Me likey!
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 05, 2014, 09:54:21 AM
Thanks!
And here is a related Half-Twin-Mustang:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P82-51B_at.JPG)

And Mustangs with a Rear Observation Post:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P82-51B_au.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 05, 2014, 10:06:37 AM
And here is a related Half-Twin-Mustang:
And Mustangs with a Rear Observation Post:
Both ways are mixed on the RP-82:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P82-51B_av.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 05, 2014, 10:49:26 AM
The RP-51D (first) Twin-Mustang was very different from the RP-82: half-bubble tandem-wing, twin-engine with double rear post...
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P82-51B_aw.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 06, 2014, 02:04:36 AM
The RP-82B and C were more classical than the standard RP-82 (renamed RP-82A):
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P82-51B_ax.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 06, 2014, 02:36:58 PM
Human hostilities are peanuts compared to...
Ahem, these are the (secret) reco planes installed at Roswell AFB, 1944, inspecting the "true" flying saucers passing over:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P38eclairJ_aaau.JPG)
(don't be afraid, I see my psychiatrist tomorrow) :icon_crap:
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 06, 2014, 10:58:03 PM
Of course, there was not a single USAAF reco-plane in Roswell. All the last ones were different and asymmetric, like the alien flying saucers (the designers hoped to come near without destruction - the result is still secret...).
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P38eclairJ_aaav.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: ChernayaAkula on April 06, 2014, 11:43:55 PM
The "flying saucer" ones are whacky!  ;D

How about a development of the RP-82C: a pusher prop on the cockpit pod, making a triple-engined aircraft. Cockpit I'm not sure whether a P-51-sytle cockpit (with a big nose for cameras, a radar or other armament) or an Ar 234-sytle streamlined cockpit.
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 07, 2014, 01:10:06 AM
Here are the XRP-82D & 82E, delivered as soon as ordered! (and cheap: 1.99 billion $ each prototype)...
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P82-51B_ay.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: ChernayaAkula on April 07, 2014, 10:38:00 AM
Way cool!  :)  Still undecided on the cockpit issue: they both look great!  8)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 08, 2014, 12:18:00 PM
Here are the XRP-82D & 82E, delivered as soon as ordered! (and cheap: 1.99 billion $ each prototype)...
Poor customer, liking both designs but unable to afford both... North American provides the solution, fortunately, the Quadri-Mustang XRP-82F (only $billion 2.99!)
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P82-51B_az.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: ChernayaAkula on April 08, 2014, 09:39:23 PM
 ;D Funeeeee!
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 10, 2014, 01:24:27 AM
Thanks!

Back to Lightnings, here are ones with just forward observation:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P38eclairJ_aaaw.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 11, 2014, 01:49:47 AM
And ones with backward observation:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P38eclairJ_aaax.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 15, 2014, 09:48:06 AM
An observer does not need big engines with coolers nor a tail with maneuvrability, just: observation posts
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 26, 2014, 12:31:37 AM
Triple and Double Droop Snoots are good platforms for observation:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P38eclairJ_aabg.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Volkodav on April 26, 2014, 01:18:06 AM
I do like one and three, probably one has the edge for me.  Good work.
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Tophe on April 26, 2014, 09:42:25 PM
Thanks!
And here three-engined versions:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/r_P38eclairJ_aabh.JPG)
Title: Re: Lightning spies (and Mustangs)
Post by: Volkodav on April 26, 2014, 10:20:27 PM
 :)