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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: ysi_maniac on May 13, 2021, 11:00:05 AM

Title: CASA small transports/liners: C-201, C-202, C-207, C-212, CN-235, C-295
Post by: ysi_maniac on May 13, 2021, 11:00:05 AM
Here you get profiles normalized at constant scale (2 cm ---> 1 pixel) of all planes mentioned in title. In this order:

C-201 (Alcotán)
C-202 (Halcón)
C-207(Azor)
C-212 (Aviocar)
CN-235
C-295

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/CasaLiners_CS.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/b52d21aa-b505-447f-b1a6-c49c602b048f)
Title: Re: CASA small transports/liners: C-201, C-202, C-207, C-212, CN-235, C-295
Post by: apophenia on May 14, 2021, 10:24:51 AM
Nice! I hadn't realized the degree of size difference among the Alcotán, Halcón, and Azor. Thanks for that  :smiley:
Title: Re: CASA small transports/liners: C-201, C-202, C-207, C-212, CN-235, C-295
Post by: ysi_maniac on May 16, 2021, 11:26:10 AM
Here you have information about other CASA small transports/liners

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/postwar-casa-transport-projects.7292/ (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/postwar-casa-transport-projects.7292/)
Title: Re: CASA small transports/liners: C-201, C-202, C-207, C-212, CN-235, C-295
Post by: ysi_maniac on May 17, 2021, 06:18:32 AM
One of the most interesting projecs mentioned in last link, IMO, is INTA-20. Here you can see my depiction, based on information in mentioned link.

In original drawing, dimensions are not readable, but I think that wingspan is 20,00 meters; then I can deduce that length is 14,78 meters.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/INTA-20.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/0d348b73-70e9-46b9-a224-5af22d407df1)
Title: Re: CASA small transports/liners: C-201, C-202, C-207, C-212, CN-235, C-295
Post by: ysi_maniac on May 18, 2021, 12:53:43 PM
Two Azor in fictious Iberia colors and different propulsions: radial and turboprop

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/Azor_iberia.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/9ff8f09e-b374-4d50-983f-9760e8f9c856)
Title: Re: CASA small transports/liners: C-201, C-202, C-207, C-212, CN-235, C-295
Post by: ysi_maniac on May 18, 2021, 12:58:08 PM
What if a liner derived from CASA C.2111?

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/C-2111_Liner.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/277cb491-f1e0-40f3-8e43-40478e70c454)
Title: Re: CASA small transports/liners: C-201, C-202, C-207, C-212, CN-235, C-295
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 19, 2021, 02:09:50 AM
Wouldn't an airliner derivative look more like the original He111C or G?

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6d/f0/64/6df06405cf9fb4da766dddc8cfe8a668.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fa/cf/e9/facfe95b15f3eb1ee31dfb37b84a0a86.jpg)
Title: Re: CASA small transports/liners: C-201, C-202, C-207, C-212, CN-235, C-295
Post by: apophenia on May 20, 2021, 03:42:44 AM
Wouldn't an airliner derivative look more like the original He111C or G?


My take on this: http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=351.msg184583#msg184583 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=351.msg184583#msg184583)
Title: Re: CASA small transports/liners: C-201, C-202, C-207, C-212, CN-235, C-295
Post by: ysi_maniac on May 20, 2021, 11:46:54 PM
^^^^^^
The main point is the diameter of fuselage. In the drawing I posted, C.2111 is 212 cm (exterior, top to down) and my proposal is 280 cm. He-111 is too narrow, IMO.
Title: Re: CASA small transports/liners: C-201, C-202, C-207, C-212, CN-235, C-295
Post by: ysi_maniac on May 20, 2021, 11:52:30 PM
Two derivatives from C.207 Azor. first with radials and a "special canopy" and the second one with special tail fin and Jets

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/AlternAzor(1).jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/0c990ee9-4131-4fad-9985-9491813422a6)
Title: Re: CASA small transports/liners: C-201, C-202, C-207, C-212, CN-235, C-295
Post by: ysi_maniac on May 21, 2021, 11:12:03 AM
A pure invention made with fragments of CASA aircraft and Allison engines. :thumbsup:

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/CASAalterLiner_1.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/d04c70e9-6c56-490e-ba18-dc98d2eef043)
Title: Re: CASA small transports/liners: C-201, C-202, C-207, C-212, CN-235, C-295
Post by: ysi_maniac on June 07, 2021, 12:23:58 PM
In mid 50s Iberia decides to patron a project of an airliner to fly Madrid - Buenos Aires, non stop (10.050 km). CASA and INTA as technology partners design a 4 radials plane strongly influenced by DC-7, called INTA-40.

Here you can see INTA-40 along with its inspiration: DC-7C and INTA-20, which you can see in the thread devoted to CASA transports and liners. All of them in constant scale.

Designer's main interest was range. Fuselage is depper than DC-7's, allowing for tankage in belly area; besides this, it carries wing tips tanks. Accomodation is lower than DC-7's, but with more confort.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/INTA-40.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/c54341c4-6c97-42a2-bc2c-2500a83268cd)
Title: Re: CASA small transports/liners: C-201, C-202, C-207, C-212, CN-235, C-295
Post by: elmayerle on June 07, 2021, 01:05:35 PM
Now that looks like a first-class ride!!  I could see some being bought for private usage as well as suitable turboprop conversions.
Title: Re: CASA small transports/liners: C-201, C-202, C-207, C-212, CN-235, C-295
Post by: ysi_maniac on June 08, 2021, 03:41:44 AM
 :smiley: :smiley: ;)
Title: Re: CASA small transports/liners: C-201, C-202, C-207, C-212, CN-235, C-295
Post by: ysi_maniac on June 08, 2021, 03:42:10 AM
According to documentation in Secret Projects Forum, CASA-401 could look like this. Quite similar to italian G.222 on steroids IMO.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/CASA-401.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/f3f5ea45-fdd9-442a-9cc6-9425b40107b4)