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Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Land => Topic started by: Frank3k on October 30, 2014, 10:58:45 AM

Title: Christie M3 tank
Post by: Frank3k on October 30, 2014, 10:58:45 AM
I've always liked the Christie wheeled tanks of the 1930s. The Russians did, too - they bought the Christie design (as tested by the US Army) and turned it into the BT-2 and later the BT-5 and BT-7, which were used in WWII.
The Christie T3 tank, as tested by the US Army is still around: http://www.peachmountain.com/5star/tanks_Christie_T3.aspx (http://www.peachmountain.com/5star/tanks_Christie_T3.aspx)

I decided to build a production Christie tank, had it been accepted by the US Army. The base kit is pretty easy to find; Zvezda has used the base design for their series of BT-5 and BT-7 tanks. They're a little rough, but quite buildable. I used their BT-5 tank and Eduard BT-5 PE set as a start.

The original MG based T3 turret was not going to be effective, so I borrowed a turret from a Tamiya M3 Stuart tank, and added a coaxial 0.50 cal gun.
I didn't take many pictures during the build, but this picture shows the restored pointy nose that was lopped off in the Russian BT series:

(http://frank.bol.ucla.edu/Images/christie/christie0.jpg)

I redid the top of the turret as well. The engine air intake vents show tule backing. This was later replaced with Eduard PE mesh.

(http://frank.bol.ucla.edu/Images/christie/christie-1.jpg)

The three figures I'll eventually add are from the Miniart "Close Combat U.S. Tank Crew" set 35135:

(http://frank.bol.ucla.edu/Images/christie/christie-2.jpg)

The tank is almost finished in this picture. The cooling slats at the rear are scratchbuilt and are similar to those on the T3 tank. The BT-5 wheels have styrene covers, similar to those on the T3. The rear track drive wheel is completely scratchbuilt. The angled fronts on the engine air intake covers are similar to the ones on the T3. They're designed to allow the turret to rotate 360 degrees. The Stuart turret was hitting the covers as well, so I added the angled front. The BT-5 turret is taller, so it clears the covers.

I was tempted to leave it as a wheeled tank but I saw the Hobbyboss BT-7 fast track set and was impressed that the tracks were click together and workable. No gluing means that it'll be a fast build, right?

I wasted two days trying to get the track to stay in one piece. I ended up gluing segments together and even those came apart as I tried to put the track on the tank. I rand through my supply of curse words in several languages, and had to invent some. The brand should have been warning enough that it was not going to be a pain free build. The main issue is that the tracks use tiny plastic bumps that click into matching holes. Unfortunately, clinking the tracks together is enough to slice off or damage one or both of the bumps and the links won't stay together.
I ended up using the kit tracks, which are link and length. These tracks will hold together without glue long enough to place them on the tank.

Here are some pictures of the mostly finished tank. I dropped it just before taking the pictures, so the right side tracks are a little wonky. The tank is named "Never talk to strangers" which is also the name of a ship in the Iain Banks "Culture" series.

I added a steering wheel:
(http://frank.bol.ucla.edu/Images/christie/christie1.jpg)

The 0.30 cal MG is from the Academy set. The front headlights are from a quad .50 kit that Jeff sent me.

(http://frank.bol.ucla.edu/Images/christie/christie2.jpg)

The shiny spare track is just the kit part painted black and rubbed with Lifecolor reflective pigment, which is probably just graphite. I also made a basket and rudimentary interior for the turret. The 37mm gun breach is scratchbuilt, although I used some turret parts from the Tamiya 1/35 sd kfz 222.

(http://frank.bol.ucla.edu/Images/christie/christie3.jpg)

The twisted right drive is due to the twisting of the front right roller.  The red color on the hull isn't rust, but dirt. The serial number "TC-201410" is just Tank Christie and the year and month I finished it.

(http://frank.bol.ucla.edu/Images/christie/christie7.jpg)

(http://frank.bol.ucla.edu/Images/christie/christie9.jpg)

"Never talk to strangers"
(http://frank.bol.ucla.edu/Images/christie/christie10.jpg)


Next is fixing the right track damage and finishing the three figures. I'm not sure what the back story will be - either a fast recon tank during the Aleutian Islands Campaign or as a fast recon tank in Northern Mexico, fighting an aggressive Communist Mexico in the 1930s.






Title: Re: Christie M3 tank
Post by: Logan Hartke on October 30, 2014, 11:20:36 AM
Personally, I'm not a fan of Walter J. Christie or many of his designs (I think they're overrated), but I won't deny that they look good. Your model, though, looks absolutely fantastic and is the most convincing interpretation of a US production Christie that I've ever seen! Great work!

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Christie M3 tank
Post by: finsrin on October 30, 2014, 12:09:27 PM
Subject matter choice/configuration and build appearance are top notch.
Sure do like your "Christie M3 tank"  :)
Title: Re: Christie M3 tank
Post by: arkon on October 30, 2014, 12:23:12 PM
that is one fine lookin Christie!
Title: Re: Christie M3 tank
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 30, 2014, 04:50:46 PM
Looks good.  I have thought of doing similar.
Title: Re: Christie M3 tank
Post by: Madhatter on October 30, 2014, 05:28:40 PM
Interesting subject matter there Frank. I've never seen one like that before.
Nicely weathered and painted too!
Do mini craft also make German engineers as well?
Title: Re: Christie M3 tank
Post by: Old Wombat on October 30, 2014, 10:28:06 PM
That is a nice looking little build, Frank! :)
Title: Re: Christie M3 tank
Post by: Volkodav on October 30, 2014, 10:39:13 PM
Sweet! A great build and I could easily imagine lend lease versions of this in a British desert scheme.
Title: Re: Christie M3 tank
Post by: Jacques Deguerre on October 31, 2014, 12:27:20 AM
Frank, that's such a great idea and a great looking model.
Title: Re: Christie M3 tank
Post by: Buzzbomb on October 31, 2014, 07:21:38 AM
Very nice build and for a pre - WWII US tank quite believable.

Title: Re: Christie M3 tank
Post by: Frank3k on October 31, 2014, 07:38:14 AM
Thanks for the comments!

Quote from: Madhatter
Do mini craft also make German engineers as well?


I couldn't find any engineers from MiniArt, Master Box Dragon or Trumpeter (check reviews before buying a Trumpeter figure set, though. They range from awful to OK).

MiniArt has a few German figure sets that may work:

German soldiers at work:
http://www.miniart-models.com/index.htm?/35065.htm (http://www.miniart-models.com/index.htm?/35065.htm)

German tank repair crew:
http://www.miniart-models.com/35011.htm (http://www.miniart-models.com/35011.htm)

German tank crew at work:
http://www.miniart-models.com/35010.htm (http://www.miniart-models.com/35010.htm)

Master Box has a German repair crew:
http://www.mbltd.info/3582.htm (http://www.mbltd.info/3582.htm)

Quote from: Volkodav
Sweet! A great build and I could easily imagine lend lease versions of this in a British desert scheme.


I made a "Christy Stewart" using parts from a retired build of the old reboxing of the Zvezda BT-5 kit and a Tamiya M3 Stuart:

http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=1577.msg21149#msg21149 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=1577.msg21149#msg21149)
Title: Re: Christie M3 tank
Post by: Madhatter on October 31, 2014, 08:04:40 PM
Hey thanks for those links Frank - I didn't know those products even existed. Goes to show how sheltered I am ;)
I may have to pick up a couple of different sets  to get the fit combination. The only issue I have is I can't paint figures to save myself.
Title: Re: Christie M3 tank
Post by: Feldmarschall Zod on November 01, 2014, 05:16:43 AM
Great looking build Frank.
Title: Re: Christie M3 tank
Post by: Claymore on November 01, 2014, 07:00:42 AM
Very nice indeed - really looks the part.  :)
Title: Re: Christie M3 tank
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on November 01, 2014, 10:11:46 AM
That is one nice combination of kit parts Frank.  Really went together rather well and it certainly looks right for the early WW2 period.  Wonder now what the M5 version would look like :)
Title: Re: Christie M3 tank
Post by: Brian da Basher on November 08, 2014, 04:45:38 AM
You really hit it out of the park with this beauty, Frank!

An absolutely believable concept too made even more so by your amazing weathering! If it wasn't real, it wouldn't get used so hard, amirite?

Your talent is simply off the charts!

Brian da Basher