Modelling > 1920s/1930s GB or Between the Wars GB
A Canadian Raven in Spain
apophenia:
Thanks folks!
--- Quote from: dogsbody on July 16, 2021, 02:09:56 AM ---Maybe Canada also stared building aircraft engines. Perhaps some copies of Bristol Mercurys and Pegasus engines.
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I think that idea has legs Chris. A 'Bristol Engines (Canada)' could supply the RCAF's needs with surplus exported to the UK. For the RCAF, there'd be (Mercurys for the Bolingbrokes and Lysander IIIAs and Pegasus for the Stranraers and Hampdens. Lots of BCATP Battles also received Cyclone engine-swaps - could've been Pegasus instead.
--- Quote from: GTX_Admin on July 16, 2021, 03:29:34 AM ---Well, the Canadian Pratt & Whitney Aircraft Company, Ltd. was founded in November 1928 to act as a service centre for P&W aircraft engines and during World War II, it assembled Pratt & Whitney Wasp series engines built in the U.S. so it isn't inconceivable.
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Too true. Canadian Wright Ltd was set up in Montreal in 1926 (IIRC) but didn't get a full license of Wright engines until 1928. Too late! IIRC, the first Wasps in Canada were assembled by Canadian Wright. That must have been galling! Canadian Wright's big comeback was supposed to be the Norseman - but only the first five got Whirlwinds - and most of those were later converted to Wasps.
In 1948, Canadian Wright was swallowed by the improbably-name Mailman Corp. (A.L. Mailman, Pres.), some kind of holding company that gobbled up under-capitalized firms (Ottawa Car & Aircraft being another of their 1948 puchases).
-- https://img6.newspapers.com/clip/45085221/national-post/
One wartime firm that puzzles me is British Aeroplane Engines Limited. I'm not sure when they were established but, at some point, they were owned by Rotol, Rolls-Royce, and Bristol (if I understood rightly). During WW2, British Aeroplane Engines shared facilities with Canadian Wright Ltd. in Montreal. Don't know what the deal was there ... but the two firms also shared a poster campaign ("Daddy Helps Build Them") which featured a stylized Bolingbroke ... so, Mercury-powered if that's significant.
--- Quote from: robunos on July 16, 2021, 03:44:33 AM ---If this happened, it would enable Bristol in the UK to switch over entirely to sleeve valve engines, maybe even get the Centaurus into service before the war ends . . .
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Good point. If production of the Mercury and Pegasus was shifted to Canada early enough (say, 1937), perhaps Bristol would have been less distracted/overloaded? It probably wouldn't have sped up progress on the Hercules much but it is fun to speculate on a Taurus-powered Blenheim :smiley:
jcf:
How about a plan-view showing the new wing design?
;)
apophenia:
--- Quote from: jcf on July 16, 2021, 09:49:55 AM ---How about a plan-view showing the new wing design?
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As requested, the planform of the CCF C-23M and Can-Air C-24 Corbeau/Cuervo showing their 'Hershey-Bar' wings.
This plan view is split into two - the right half being the CCF C-23M, the left half representing the Can-Air C-24E.
Right side Canadian Car & Foundry C-23M second prototype (c/n 23-2-02) in service with the Arma de Aviación. Scheme is overall silver dope with a locally-applied anti-glare panel (Soviet A-24). Delivered with Republican roundels on its wings, this aircraft's rondas have been over-painted with broad red ID panels.
Right, scrap view Starboard wing of the CCF C-23M first prototype (c/n 23-2-01). Detail differences are faired-in wingtip navigation lights (which were carried over to the production C-24) and an underwing pitot tube (which was distinct to this first prototype).
Left side Production Can-Air C-24E-1 Cuervo (Raven) of the Arma de Aviación. Scheme is as per the C-23M with aluminized paint substituted for dope on the metal-skinned wings. Note the longer-chord cowling and revised fully-cantilever elevators.
Left, scrap view Portside wing of the sole Can-Air C-24E-2 Cuervo. This aircraft had an additional pair of wing guns ... but this came at the cost of slightly reduced fuel tanks. The added weight of the guns and their ammunition also reduced the potential bomb load (especially in hotter weather).
The C-24E-2 was the first of a second batch of Cuervos. These twenty aircraft came with red ID panels already applied. The second batch also differed slightly in their internal fittings from the first batch.
In Spanish service, the C-24E were sometimes identified as ACs (for Ataque Cuervo) in the same way that the biplane C-23s were ADs (Ataque Delfíns)
jcf:
Thanks. :smiley: :icon_fsm:
I have one of these, you see.
;D
jcf:
Perhaps an engine change, R-1535 power like the XSF-2 or P & W Wasp like the GG-1 demonstrator?
XSF-2
GG-1, re-engined with an R-1820, went to CC & F and was lost at sea off the coast of Costa Rica on
29 Sept. 1937 while on a demonstration tour.
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