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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #100 on: July 23, 2020, 01:28:47 AM »
Here's the more developed version (aka a P-40 with spats from a H75N as opposed to a H75N with P-40 nose) - the P-40BdB:



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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #101 on: July 23, 2020, 01:54:59 AM »
lt is especially hard to convince people, extremely hard if they are experts but USAF was in the game of designing suicide aircraft. The armour depicted here meant to keep the pilot alive until the crash, so there was no need to provide for a bail out attempt. Until a better idea came along.


Bullshit.  C:-) :icon_zombie:

lf Northrop says he designed the P-79 for ramming, l don't know why historians insist "No, he didn't".

Gee I don't know, perhaps because Northrop never effing claimed it was designed for ramming?

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #102 on: July 23, 2020, 01:57:46 AM »
Here's the more developed version (aka a P-40 with spats from a H75N as opposed to a H75N with P-40 nose) - the P-40BdB:



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That's a long tail F, I'd think a P-40B/C fuselage would be more likely, and the pointy nose would look
cooler.
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #103 on: July 23, 2020, 02:03:33 AM »
Maybe.  I just went with what I could quickly bash together... ;)
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #104 on: July 24, 2020, 01:28:31 AM »
Ok, last one:  The P-40B-BdB:



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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #105 on: July 24, 2020, 04:14:36 AM »
Ok, last one:  The P-40B-BdB:



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I can just see that in Flying Tigers markings or even plain Nationalist Chinese markings.

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #106 on: July 24, 2020, 09:42:53 PM »
Oh, let me guess, people woke up one morning and decided to do something about things when more people in positions of responsibility DO seriously refuse doing themselves. lt so happens that there are people who have actually started their "careers" with an examination of defence of America against imaginary and completely unbelivable bombers. To cut it short, Americans did indeed study suicide aircraft as much as the current first page of Secret Projects on the relevant subforum has the British versions. Certainly not official, but uneducated masses lacking the finesse of so many people could even imagine the development of the ejection seat which has indeed saved so many lives. Let's see how much joy people will get out of a ban or worse because spamming. Or the almost sexual scale joy to have when people are ever cleared to talk with documentation. Oh hell yes, l am promising to do this. (Though the idea of posting in this thread actually came after reading some thread on SPF where the writer of the article and some moderator of this website had a discussion perfectly acceptable on all accounts by the looks of it and he seems a proper historian type of a guy?)

Also, here it would be way cooler to have a list of all BS things mentioned, because you know, why not? Not that they are unknown to people with more serious search engines than l or you might have, but...

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #107 on: July 26, 2020, 04:44:52 PM »
Ok, last one:  The P-40B-BdB:



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I don't know why but I can envision this with slightly longer forward angled spats.  I know the spats are positioning the wheels roughly where they would be on the retractable gear versions but my poor old brain wants to see them angled forward with the wheels ending up forward of the leading edge.

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #108 on: August 30, 2020, 04:05:52 AM »
Carrier based P-40s anyone:

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #109 on: August 30, 2020, 09:45:41 AM »
That's funny! ;D

I've a couple of 1/48 P-40's in the stash & have been thinking about a navalised one, in the same vein as the Sea Hurricane (as the Seahawk? ???), for the RAN FAA ca. 1940/41. 8) :smiley:

Puts a bit of a new twist on the P-40N. ;)
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #110 on: September 01, 2020, 02:46:24 AM »
More:




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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #111 on: September 01, 2020, 08:41:47 AM »
More:

Hmmm, upward-folding wings and slats like the SB2Cs in the background of photo #2? Or Grumman-type folding like the SC-1 Seahawk?
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #112 on: September 01, 2020, 08:56:27 AM »
You need to keep clear of the MLG wells, so I could see SB2C-style making more sense.  The Grumman style runs into some problems there.

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #113 on: September 01, 2020, 09:10:15 AM »
Can anyone tell me what operation those carrier borne P-40s are from. I’m pretty sure the last one is operation Torch but I have no idea of the others. My curiosity is fired up!

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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #114 on: September 02, 2020, 02:07:59 AM »
The P-40-CUsare 8th Pursuit Group aircraft aboard the USS Hornet in October 1940 (CV-8). This experiment was comprised of the 24 P-40s along with nine North American 0-47As of the 2d Observation Squadron (just visible, parked directly behind the Curtiss fighters).

According to George Greene in 'The Wasp's Last Sting' (Sea Classics, Vol 47), "This was a test designed to compare takeoff runs of standard Navy and Army aircraft. This experiment, the first time a US Army plane had flown from a US Navy carrier, foreshadowed the use of this ship in a ferrying role..." (An example of the latter being 30 USAAC P-40s being flown off Wasp in 1941 for delivery to Iceland.

BTW, the foreground aircraft was from the 33rd Pursuit Squadron). Its scheme is OD (with tail 'shadow-shading') over Neutral Gray. Tailfin markings (41 8P) are in yellow (it can't been seen here but this is repeated on the upper port wing as 8P 41). 33rd PS unit badges on fuselage (no roundels applied yet). The spinner and immediate forward cowling is red as are the wheel covers (the latter being outlined in red).

The top photo shows P-40K 42-46205 ready for a catapult launch from the escort carrier USS Breton (CVE-23), 10 Dec 1943).
https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/P-40/15FG/images/USAAF-42-46205-P-40K-Warhawk-15FG6NFS-White-18-CVE-23-USS-Breton-10th-Dec-1943-0B.png

Below that are P-40Ks of the 45th FS, 15th FG also aboard the Breton in 1943 (including aircraft 181, 'Moonbeam McSwine').
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Re: P-40 Ideas
« Reply #115 on: September 02, 2020, 03:03:10 AM »
See Reply #84 on previous page... ;)
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