Author Topic: Mitsubishi J2M Raiden Ideas and Inspiration  (Read 5127 times)

Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: Mitsubishi J2M Raiden Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2015, 05:14:12 AM »
My dad and I were discussing just such a concept yesterday.

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Re: Mitsubishi J2M Raiden Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2015, 05:11:36 AM »
Seeing as the Raiden looks like a bloated Zero, a Zero style canopy makes the most sense.
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Re: Mitsubishi J2M Raiden Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2015, 11:49:21 PM »
Pilotless kamikaze.  No canopy/fairing.

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Re: Mitsubishi J2M Raiden Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2019, 03:00:22 AM »
There's an interesting bit in Japanese Aero Engines, 1910 - 1945 where they mention that the Aichi engine derived from the DB601 (as used in the D4Y-1, -2, and the M6A1) was considered early on for the J2M1; they went for an air-cooled engine instead but it would be interesting to meld the engine and radiator installation from the M6A1 (by all accounts, a better and cleaner installation than in the D4Y1) with the Raiden airframe.

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Re: Mitsubishi J2M Raiden Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2019, 06:41:10 AM »
Maybe use the Ki-61 -> Ki-100 as an inspiration for what a DB01 Raiden would look like?

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Re: Mitsubishi J2M Raiden Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2019, 07:15:38 AM »
Given the Ki-100 went from a inline liquid cooled to an air cooled radial wouldn’t it be the other way around?

Re using an in-line for the J2M, one could also take the long nosed, liquid cooled Fw-190s as a guide and give the J2M an annular radiator to give a different look. Maybe even use a ducted propeller?
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Re: Mitsubishi J2M Raiden Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2019, 02:47:15 AM »
If they had proceeded with the DB type engine in the design of the J2M then it would
not of had the fat-Zero look to the airframe. There would have been no reason for
the round fuselage cross-section, it would have had a rectangular/oval cross-section
conforming closely to the engine dimensions, pretty much just like almost every other
V engined aircraft of the period.
 ;D

So trying to stick a DB style nose onto a Raiden fuselage makes zero sense.  ;)


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And we, till now unmatched in ill,
Must leave successors more corrupted still."
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