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Offline jschmus

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Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« on: September 13, 2013, 04:03:38 AM »
A couple of days ago, a friend of mine on Facebook suggested re-engining the Tu-95 Bear with turbofans.  Most of his commenters were more concerned with why that wouldn't work than they were with talking about how it could be done.  I dared to invite him over here to discuss the topic, but he finds the layout a little confusing.  I thought I'd jumpstart the conversation by opening a thread.  As always, feel free to chime in with any other Bear-related ideas.
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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2013, 08:01:39 AM »
Here are a couple line-art bashes I did.

Because 32 prop blades just aren't enough!



Peacemaker-ish!



This was based on some video game trailer.



Here's the screen-shot it is based on. A little searching revealed the game's name to be "Stormbirds".

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Offline Rickshaw

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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2013, 08:16:59 AM »
No reason why you couldn't put turbojets/turbofans on a Tu-95.  I think it would end up looking a bit like a Tu-16 though, as Andrei Tupolev wasn't really enamoured of podded engines in the early-mid-1950s.  A later conversion in the 1970s or later might have had them.

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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2013, 09:14:00 AM »
Most excellent :)      Those three are totally cool  8)
Now I have another wanna build on top of gobs of others  :-\

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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2013, 09:52:36 AM »
I agree with Rickshaw that if this was to be an alternate original configuration, that it would almost certainly have engines buried in the fuselage, much like the competitor Myasishchev M-4/3M.

If you're looking for a podded configuration, such as a a mid-life upgrade with Il-76 or Il-86 engine pods, then it would probably look a lot like the Myasishchev M-28/2M, but with Tupolev's signature landing gear pods and a more conventional tricycle landing gear.





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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2013, 11:15:09 AM »
So why not replace the turboprops with UDF's?  It might be even noisier than it is now.

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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2013, 05:15:05 PM »
One I have planned:

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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2013, 06:07:28 PM »
What a design  8)
Yet another wanna build !

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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2013, 06:20:34 PM »
Something I discovered recently:  if you take the fuselage of the 1/72 Trumpeter Tupolev Tu-142MR "Bear J" (see below) which is the one with the ELF Comms fit, it provides a remarkably good starting point for some form of submarine...probably Soviet...maybe DE.




Cut off the fin and you should see what I mean. ;)


Hmmm...the idea of turning a aircraft into a submarine...does this mean I am channelling either Brian or Alvis... ???
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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2013, 09:16:33 AM »
One I have planned:




Oh!  :icon_surprised: 'tis excellent!
Forward-swept outer wings?   >:D
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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2013, 09:55:27 AM »
Greg, don't forget Trumpy makes a 1/144 Tu-95 as well in case you want to build a smaller sub or add some sort of mini-sub  ;)
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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2013, 12:11:17 PM »
Eccentric geared turbofans.
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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2013, 01:53:33 PM »
Something I discovered recently:  if you take the fuselage of the 1/72 Trumpeter Tupolev Tu-142MR "Bear J" (see below) which is the one with the ELF Comms fit, it provides a remarkably good starting point for some form of submarine...probably Soviet...maybe DE.


It would look something like a  s t r e t c h e d November class nuclear sub.

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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2016, 06:37:31 AM »
Some inspiration:


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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2016, 01:52:46 AM »
Great find!^ Interesting
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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2016, 04:05:13 AM »
Another:

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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2016, 04:11:12 AM »
And speaking of heavily armed bears:



Errr...that's not what I meant to post...let's try that again:


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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2016, 05:29:18 AM »
Nice,,, appreciate the ideas and inspiration. :)

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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2016, 08:49:21 AM »
Quite a few years ago, Hannants had a sale on 'Kitchen' missiles, really cheap. So I had bought a bunch without really thinking where I was going to use them.  On the two different Tu-22's I've got in the stash I think if I remember correctly. Now I've got an idea how to install them ---    :)

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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2018, 04:00:29 AM »
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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2018, 07:43:34 AM »
Quite a few years ago, Hannants had a sale on 'Kitchen' missiles, really cheap. So I had bought a bunch without really thinking where I was going to use them.  On the two different Tu-22's I've got in the stash I think if I remember correctly. Now I've got an idea how to install them ---    :)

I found these yesterday while going through a box that hasn't been looked in years. They turned out to actually be 'Kipper' AS-2 missiles.

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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2020, 09:53:14 AM »
For fun.

EL/W-2090 chosen due to at least perceived ease of implementation.

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Re: Tu-95 Bear Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2020, 01:25:17 AM »
Interesting.  What about fitting a fixed array Electronic scanned radar such as those shown below:



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