Author Topic: Winged wraiths  (Read 441 times)

Offline tankmodeler

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Re: Winged wraiths
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2019, 12:13:39 AM »
One thing that has just hit me is that  I bet the ground crews would hate bombing up this machine - not a lot of clearance.
I might have to think about some jacks built into the U/C for this because I can't see a Cookie being loaded at the moment :(

Clamshell the aft portion of the bomb bay bulge (a bit of alliteration for a Monday, then?) to permit the cookie to be loaded. Loading pits really aren't going to be a good way to go, I don't think as they imply a lot more infrastructure at the bases, which would be really unwanted.

Paul

Offline kerick

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Re: Winged wraiths
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2019, 01:59:50 AM »
Loading pits are a lot more work for the ground crews as each aircraft has to be backed over the pit and moved away again. Imagine doing that many times each day!

Offline Small brown dog

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Re: Winged wraiths
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2019, 08:24:31 PM »
Can you not just have it flush or very slightly bulged, like the dH Mosquito? ???

Yes, could reduce the bulge but the idea was to increase the capacity quite considerably for the B2 version to take advantage of the super lift Minotaur variant.
With hindsight I think I went too far to be honest.

Bomb loading doors built into the side of the bomb bay?

Sort of like the B24 ?
Thats not a bad idea ;)
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Offline tankmodeler

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Re: Winged wraiths
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2019, 12:12:41 AM »
Bomb loading doors built into the side of the bomb bay?

Sort of like the B24 ?
Thats not a bad idea ;)
From an engineering POV, it's a really good idea and would give you virtually all the distance between the lower wing surface and the ground to bring in the cookie.

It would imply a sideways loading bomb cart/trolley which would be a little more complicated than the typical WW2 "roll the trolley under the plane and winch up the bombs" approach, but it's not too much of a stretch to add a specialised ground support equipment for a specific and important weapon. A second set of casters, a movable parallelogram frame on the bomb trailer and a screw jack to translate the cookie from under the wing, but beside the bomb bay, to just under the bomb bay and ready to be winched up. Not too hard and no need for extra motors, etc.

It unfortunately would clutter the beautifully clean look of the simple clamshell doors, mind, but could add a more business-like look to things, perhaps.

The B24 doors rolled up on the outside of the fuselage, these would have to roll up internally.

Really do like how this looks.

I'm starting to consider how a Grumman Avenger-based torpedo-bomber would look in this world? More brutish, turret, one big radial powering two wing-mounted lift coils, long bomb bay for a torpedo. A tail dragger for carrier use.   ???

Paul