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Solokov Volkosob
« on: August 29, 2019, 06:14:14 PM »


The arrival of the latest incarnation of the Luftpanzer, Jaguar 2, on the eastern front had caused untold misery not only for the Russian front line soldiers but also for the tank design bureau. Stalin was going crazy, threats were made and personnel had disappeared.

Just when it seemed that the Russians were making progress and driving the Nazi back, the Luftpanzer had almost overnight shifted the balance of power in favour Germany. The ME 626 Donnervogel was always a problem to armoured divisions but now in combination with the Luftpanzer 2 Russian armour just ceased to exist after any confrontation.

According to Stalin the solution was simple: More armour, more fire power and more of us then them. Finding more men always seemed to be easy but the equipment was another matter.The building program for armoured fighting vehicles had been expanded to such a state that many engineering companies had found themselves subcontractors to the major arms builders and keeping up with current supply alone left little or no time for innovation and experiment.

However, Mikhail Sokolov , designer and builder of  heavy agricultural and industrial equipment  was currently enjoying such a period where he could “play” simply because he was ahead of schedule. The company had produced a successful industrial lift generator before the war but had since been charged with the production of, as far as Sokolov was concerned, a lesser military design. He had actually been asked to slow down output as the subcontractors he shipped to were unable to meet their own almost impossible deadlines and had Solokov field generators sitting in crates taking up valuable room.

There was no doubt that the military unit currently in production was powerful but it lacked the refined unidirectional field focusing of the Solokov unit. Material handling vehicles working in factories or on the docks needed precision field focusing to manoeuvre in confined spaces with ease.  They should be able to stop and start in an instant, shift sideways and rotate about the vehicles central axis and all under load.  Solokov wondered about such a vehicle fitted with a useful armament and double the power generation.

In a bold move Sokolov redesigned the military field generator and fitted it with his own field focusing technology. He then fitted this to one of his own company  Sokolov bulk lifters, a tall narrow  but powerful dock side loading  vehicle and it worked well. Encouraged by the results he had a redesigned thick steel armoured carapace made that wrapped around the front of the machine. The lifting gear equipment and control space was filled with a 75mm cannon and an ingenious self-loading magazine holding 12 shells – said to have been copied form a downed ME626 of which Sokolov denied.

The potential was great but at this time the machine was beginning to lack power as the weight had increased with the addition of a war load. It was about this time that Sokolov had been imprisoned for the crime of hindering the war effort. However, Solokov turned this to his advantage stating that the war effort was now even more in jeopardy as he had the solution to the German armour problem. Being such a sensitive issue his claims echoed through the halls of power until they were heard by no lesser individual than Stalin himself who simply told his aid to instruct Solokov to “prove it”.

Solokov did prove it having no real alternative if he wanted to live.
Within 4 months of his release The Volkosob was in production. The power generation was solved by 2 x Shvetsov aero engines driving generators and industrial low power Ion thrusters. They may have been low power, having been designed for material handling vehicles, but two gave the Volkosob a top speed over the flat of just slightly over 60MPH. There was a need to add conventional aerodynamic control surfaces to the Yolkosob to help it manoeuvre at speed and, over undulating terrain at top speed, keep it from becoming airborne where it became an uncontrollable pilot killing machine if not kept in check and brought back into field contact with the ground.

The Yolkosob was ugly. Basically an industrial bulk lifter mutation on steroids built in the thousands and much loved by its operators. In the early days the pilots were women drafted in from the factories and docks where they had been skilled in the use of the non-military Solokov bulk lifter. They soon became skilled and feared fighters and along with their humble mounts are remembered for the part they played in turning the tide of the war in favour of the Motherland.

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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2019, 10:26:52 PM »
Love it! ;D :smiley:
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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2019, 10:31:58 PM »
Beautiful concept and story!!  You have a real talent for this.

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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2019, 10:45:41 PM »
Have you been to the website “industria mechanika”? This would fit right in! Fantastic design and story! Now who’s going to build one in plastic?

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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2019, 11:13:05 PM »
Have you been to the website “industria mechanika”? This would fit right in! Fantastic design and story! Now who’s going to build one in plastic?
Yes, virtually any of your designs, SBD, would do very well in the Industria Mechanika model stable. There are several similar "anti-gravity" tech universes represented there and this is different enough to be separate, yet similar enough to find a ready market, I would think.

He does look for designs to reproduce as kits and you already have the base solids. The fighters and these land units would fit his scale of things very, very nicely. Especially in 1/35 for the ground units and 1/48 for the aircraft.

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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2019, 01:42:20 AM »
Thanks people :)

Have you been to the website “industria mechanika”? This would fit right in! Fantastic design and story! Now who’s going to build one in plastic?

No but I will go check it out.


He does look for designs to reproduce as kits and you already have the base solids. The fighters and these land units would fit his scale of things very, very nicely. Especially in 1/35 for the ground units and 1/48 for the aircraft.

Thats the second shout for this place. Now I'm intrigued.
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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2019, 02:08:32 AM »
Love it. :smiley:
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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2019, 04:04:34 AM »
The guy with his fist up is a nice touch.

Great stuff!

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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2019, 04:29:22 AM »
That's a great design1 Are those M2 Browning MGs?

I think the guy with the raised fist is saying "Я пукнул! Я признаюсь!"

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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2019, 05:33:14 AM »
Love this vehicle, nice pixels  :smiley:

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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2019, 06:13:50 AM »
Would the Solokov Volkosob work best as an aircraft in 1/48th or armor in 1/35th scale? Now this would be a tough decision!

Here's the facebook site.
https://www.facebook.com/IndustriaMechanika/

https://industriamechanika.com/shop/

All I can get is the "shop" site. I was hoping for the "home" site. Maybe someone else can find it.

Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2019, 10:45:47 AM »

I have 2 questions:
1. What is a "Volkosob"? Is this a misspelled Russian word (eventually Volkosub - a snake, Lycodon, Wolf snake) or anything else?
2. The name of the inventor in your story is Mikhail SOKOLOV (a real Russian name). The name of the craft is SOLOKOV. Was it changed on purpose or is it a typo? I guess it's a typo, because you wrote:
"... It was about this time that Sokolov had been imprisoned for the crime of hindering the war effort. However, Solokov turned this to his advantage..."
As you already know (I contacted you on DevianArt earlier) I like your designs very much. I build AG-machines (real models), but mine use 'Niobium"(Unobtanium) 3S-engines. I don't really care how possible it is: https://i.imgur.com/tjuLail.jpg
Please show your Messerschmitt-fighter.
Keep up the good work!
Regards!
Yves
« Last Edit: August 31, 2019, 10:41:51 AM by Yves Marino »
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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2019, 05:15:01 PM »

I have 2 questions:
1. What is a "Volkosob"? Is this a misspelled Russian word (eventually Volkosub - a snake, Lycodon, Wolf snake) or anything else?
2. The name of the inventor in your story is Mikhail SOKOLOV (a real Russian name). The name of the craft is SOLOKOV. Was it changed on purpose or is it a typo? I guess it's a typo, because you wrote:
"... It was about this time that Sokolov had been imprisoned for the crime of hindering the war effort. However, Solokov turned this to his advantage..."
As you already know (I contacted you on DevianArt earlier) I like your designs very much. I build AG-machines (real models), but mine use 'Niobium"(Unobtanium) 3S-engines. I don't really care how possible it is.

Please show your Messerschmitt-fighter.
Keep up the good work!
Regards!
Yves

I remember reading somewhere that Volkosob is Russian term for a wolf hybrid breed bred by the Russian military to protect the borders. I have since seen it spelled Volkosoby and to be honest I'm not that good with English which is my native tongue let alone trying to get my head around Russian :)
The Solokov/Sokolov is just a typo as you guessed.

Your model looks great :)
I am sure I have seen your avatar somewhere else too.

Which Messerschmitt fighter do you mean?
I have an early war BF109/110 hybrid and one called the Donnervogel which is a twin engined Flack fighter


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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2019, 05:18:14 PM »
Would the Solokov Volkosob work best as an aircraft in 1/48th or armor in 1/35th scale? Now this would be a tough decision!

Here's the facebook site.
https://www.facebook.com/IndustriaMechanika/

https://industriamechanika.com/shop/

All I can get is the "shop" site. I was hoping for the "home" site. Maybe someone else can find it.

I found the shop too.
Its nice of you to say but I'm not sure my stuff would fit in.

As for the scale I not sure either. Technically its an AFV but it does sort of fly .. maybe 1/41.5 scale  just to average it :)
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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2019, 05:24:24 PM »
That's a great design1 Are those M2 Browning MGs?

I think the guy with the raised fist is saying "Я пукнул! Я признаюсь!"

You git I almost sprayed tea all over the screens when I translated that :)
What makes it more funny it that he is a she. The title of the image is "Ura" which is a Russian battle cry .... I hope.

The MG's on the side are pretty non specific and to be honest whenever I do an MG they nearly always look like a Browning.
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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2019, 10:56:59 PM »
I remember reading somewhere that Volkosob is Russian term for a wolf hybrid breed bred by the Russian military to protect the borders.
Oh, the Wolfdog - I didn't know the Russian name of that beast. :smiley:
Which Messerschmitt fighter do you mean?
I guess it was the Bf 219. ??? The one you have shown at the ATF: two engines, 4-guns nose, yellow cowlings.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2019, 08:25:36 AM by Yves Marino »
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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2019, 12:05:07 AM »
I found the shop too.
Its nice of you to say but I'm not sure my stuff would fit in.

As for the scale I not sure either. Technically its an AFV but it does sort of fly .. maybe 1/41.5 scale  just to average it :)
Well, the scale decision is usually the site owner's call, Mike Fitchenmeyer (I think it's spelled), and he would also ultimately make the call as to whether it "fit" or not into his stable of products. But, to my eye, it would certainly compliment the various styles he has produced.

If you were interested, you could easily submit your designs to him., The worst he can say is "no". And he might say "da".

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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2019, 12:42:28 AM »
What ever happens I’m going to save those pics and see if I can gather enough parts to attempt to build this if you don’t mind. It would probably be 1/35 because of the number of tank parts required. Would the main gun be from an early model T-34?

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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2019, 01:34:43 AM »
If you were interested, you could easily submit your designs to him., The worst he can say is "no". And he might say "da".

I'll give it some thought but I get freaky on this sort of thing.
I would have to commit time and effort which could be fun at first and then it may bug the hell out of me. I get asked if I will do commisions or get involved with peoples projects but I once turned a hobby into a business and it screwed it for me on a personal level if that makes any sense. Sounds very pretentious now I read that back but I value my artistic freedom and the time I have to do it in.

What ever happens I’m going to save those pics and see if I can gather enough parts to attempt to build this if you don’t mind. It would probably be 1/35 because of the number of tank parts required. Would the main gun be from an early model T-34?

I have no probs with my stuff being used as long as I get a credit for the design and/or a pointer to the orginal concept.
I think it would be great if you did so please go ahead. I have some other non textured renders that might help too. The cannon was not based on anything in particular and a T34 would be ideal I would say.
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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2019, 02:30:31 AM »
Just translated  "Я пукнул! Я признаюсь!"   Giggled so much I woke the cat

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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2019, 02:35:35 AM »
 ;D
Just translated  "Я пукнул! Я признаюсь!"   Giggled so much I woke the cat

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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2019, 10:00:58 AM »
If you were interested, you could easily submit your designs to him., The worst he can say is "no". And he might say "da".

I'll give it some thought but I get freaky on this sort of thing.
I would have to commit time and effort which could be fun at first and then it may bug the hell out of me. I get asked if I will do commisions or get involved with peoples projects but I once turned a hobby into a business and it screwed it for me on a personal level if that makes any sense. Sounds very pretentious now I read that back but I value my artistic freedom and the time I have to do it in.

What ever happens I’m going to save those pics and see if I can gather enough parts to attempt to build this if you don’t mind. It would probably be 1/35 because of the number of tank parts required. Would the main gun be from an early model T-34?

I have no probs with my stuff being used as long as I get a credit for the design and/or a pointer to the orginal concept.
I think it would be great if you did so please go ahead. I have some other non textured renders that might help too. The cannon was not based on anything in particular and a T34 would be ideal I would say.

I understand completely. If you turn a hobby into a business then its work and not always fun anymore. That's why we do this, for fun and relaxation.
I'll gladly credit your work, as soon as I get around to building it. So many ideas, so little time!

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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2019, 12:45:58 AM »
Just translated  "Я пукнул! Я признаюсь!"   Giggled so much I woke the cat
*Snort!*  That intrigued me and I translated it - good thing our cats were already awake (resting, but awake).

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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2019, 01:22:41 PM »
Anybody have any idea where a guy could find a gun to fit this beast? I was google searching for model artillery but I didn't get any useful hits. Is there a tank gun that might be close to this? Maybe an open top vehicle like a Hellcat tank destroyer? The MGs I could find and the body I would just vacuform but I would like to have a gun with the breech to build around.

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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2019, 05:42:37 PM »
Anybody have any idea where a guy could find a gun to fit this beast? I was google searching for model artillery but I didn't get any useful hits. Is there a tank gun that might be close to this? Maybe an open top vehicle like a Hellcat tank destroyer? The MGs I could find and the body I would just vacuform but I would like to have a gun with the breech to build around.

I haven't got a clue as all I do is push pixels but I'm dead happy you are considering building it :)
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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2019, 08:31:32 PM »
Thanks! We’ll see what happens. Best laid plans of mice and men and all that.
I could just get a metal gun barrel and fake the rest. Just box it in under the cockpit floor. Of course with a one man/woman crew it would have to have an auto loader as I’m sure it’s not a one shot weapon. I should start writing this down.

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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2019, 08:36:16 PM »
Anybody have any idea where a guy could find a gun to fit this beast? I was google searching for model artillery but I didn't get any useful hits. Is there a tank gun that might be close to this? Maybe an open top vehicle like a Hellcat tank destroyer? The MGs I could find and the body I would just vacuform but I would like to have a gun with the breech to build around.

Your scale is going to be the limiting factor with availability of anything. The following is for 1/35.

The workings of the gun seem hidden in the body of the beast (which means a rough block of wood or styrene of appropriate size would work), so you really only need the barrel, of which you can get any number.

75mm works best for US/British/German vehicles.
Link to examples: https://www.bnamodelworld.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&categories_id=222&scale=1%2F35&search_in_description=0&keyword=75mm&inc_subcat=0&page=1&zenid=56dee8e8ff826d12409d5a3533f85e33

However, if you insist on internals, this is a good, reasonably priced option: https://www.bnamodelworld.com/military-vehicles-tanks-detail-up-parts-resicast-res-352280?zenid=56dee8e8ff826d12409d5a3533f85e33


If you want an American/Western version you could stick with the .50-cal's (you can get them anywhere!) but for a Soviet version may I suggest the 12.7mm DShK (Dushka)?
Link for examples: https://www.bnamodelworld.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&scale=1/35&search_in_description=0&keyword=dshk&inc_subcat=0&zenid=56dee8e8ff826d12409d5a3533f85e33

For the Soviet version I'd also suggest going for a 76mm main gun, unfortunately the only way I can see to get the gun internals is to buy an SU-76 (see below).
Link: https://www.bnamodelworld.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&categories_id=8&scale=1%2F35&search_in_description=0&keyword=su-76&inc_subcat=0

Or, again, just go for the barrel & a block of stuff.
Link: https://www.bnamodelworld.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&categories_id=222&scale=1%2F35&search_in_description=0&keyword=su-76%20gun&inc_subcat=0&zenid=56dee8e8ff826d12409d5a3533f85e33


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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2019, 09:40:26 PM »
Thanks! We’ll see what happens. Best laid plans of mice and men and all that.
I could just get a metal gun barrel and fake the rest. Just box it in under the cockpit floor. Of course with a one man/woman crew it would have to have an auto loader as I’m sure it’s not a one shot weapon. I should start writing this down.


I figured on an auto loader. I mention in the story it was an adaptation of the one used on the ME626

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Re: Solokov Volkosob
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2019, 06:51:28 AM »
Many thanks to Old Wombat for looking up all that information! Now I have to put it to good use. I thought about an anti gravity GB but that guarantees I’ll be late building it.