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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2013, 03:32:52 PM »
Some random thoughts:

Singaporean Jag
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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2013, 03:47:30 PM »
An old old copy of flight magazine I read in the uni library years ago mentioned the Australia was looking to order 100 Jags as advanced trainers and light attack aircraft.

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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2013, 02:54:08 AM »
The proposal for a 1/48  Canadian Jaguar:

1/48 Jaguar A,  resin copy of the Heller Super Etendard nose cone, Sea Eagle from the Airfix Buccaneer mounted on the centerline,& the largest underwing drop tanks available.  ECM and self defense thoughts to follow.   

Top colors of British Slate Grey, Extra Dark Sea Grey with a random squiggle of light sea grey here and there, undersides of Light Sea Grey.   Low-viz markings.   Circa 1980's.   Later years could be the same colors only with a digital pattern.   Based on the West Coast.   
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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2013, 12:30:36 AM »
Jaguar with canards!
The canards are cut-up horizontal tailplanes on both.
The main wing on the upper one is a Jaguar wing with an increased chord. The main wing on the lower one has a higher sweep angle on the leading edge. Both main wings should easily accept wingtip rails.



They look rather Gripen-ish, don't they?

Love this! But why not an upper view ???

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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2013, 09:08:50 AM »
Glad y'all like them.  :) Why not an upper view? Honestly? I got no clue!  ;D Don't remember why I didn't choose an upper view in this case. The first one, with the increased chord main wing, was just some doodling to see whether it would work. That one then evolved into the second one with the higher sweep angle.
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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2014, 12:38:22 AM »
It'll be a while before purchased, but it's good to see a two seater in 1/48 coming to market.   
Mini-TSR anyone? 
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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2014, 02:06:39 AM »
Got this from the Aeroplanes Icons Twitter feed.

Any suggests on where the landing could be sourced from without having to built it from scratch?



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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2014, 02:07:56 AM »
And this:



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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2014, 02:29:04 AM »

Any suggests on where the landing could be sourced from without having to built it from scratch?


Not sure what you mean? ???

Great photos BTW. :)
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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2014, 02:34:18 AM »

Any suggests on where the landing could be sourced from without having to built it from scratch?


Not sure what you mean? ???

Great photos BTW. :)

Being the lazy guy that I am, which existing kits could I snarf the LG from? Would a F-4K nose gear work? Main gear is single larger wheel,  straight OLEO design.
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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2014, 02:43:03 AM »
Got this from the Aeroplanes Icons Twitter feed.

Any suggests on where the landing could be sourced from without having to built it from scratch?




F-4K nose gear (use the old Revell or Frog/Hasegawa kits in 1/72, the leftover "Spey" nozzles can be combined with 1/100 F100 nozzles (from 1/100 F-15) to make reasonable PW1120) nozzles for re-engine Phantoms or whatever) and main gear from the Mitsubishi T-2/F-1 would work, I believe.

Does anyone make the radar nose, used be at least some Indian Jaguars, in 1/48 or 1/72?  I'm especially interested in 1/48 since I have a couple of the old Heller 150 Jaguar-M kits.

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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2014, 02:53:24 AM »
Just to tease (or inspire) Evan:



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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2014, 02:58:20 AM »
BTW "The Modelworks" did do the Agave radar conversion in both 1/72 and 1/48:



There is also a conversion kit with the Sea Eagle:



See here
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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2014, 04:34:12 AM »
how about a single (spey?) engined version? i imagine itd look like a fixed wing mig23

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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2014, 04:51:48 AM »
Got this from the Aeroplanes Icons Twitter feed.

Any suggests on where the landing could be sourced from without having to built it from scratch?

F-4K nose gear (use the old Revell or Frog/Hasegawa kits in 1/72, the leftover "Spey" nozzles can be combined with 1/100 F100 nozzles (from 1/100 F-15) to make reasonable PW1120) nozzles for re-engine Phantoms or whatever) and main gear from the Mitsubishi T-2/F-1 would work, I believe.

Does anyone make the radar nose, used be at least some Indian Jaguars, in 1/48 or 1/72?  I'm especially interested in 1/48 since I have a couple of the old Heller 150 Jaguar-M kits.

Thank you for the advice Evan. Now off to find a nice cheap F-4K.
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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2014, 07:00:16 AM »
BTW "The Modelworks" did do the Agave radar conversion in both 1/72 and 1/48:



There is also a conversion kit with the Sea Eagle:



See here

However, only the 1/48 conversion is currently available.  Something to put high on my "Want List" since I've got two 1/50 Jaguar-M kits to use such on, or to lend further parts to convert an Airfix/Heller 1/48 Jaguar into an evolved Jaguar-M.

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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2014, 10:14:14 PM »
I used a Jaguar fuselage, the Agave radar nose and Mitsibishi T-2 wings and undercarriage for my Jaguar MO5, Royal Australian Navy, 1983



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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2014, 06:19:21 PM »
how about a single (spey?) engined version? i imagine itd look like a fixed wing mig23

I was actually wondering about making the Jaguar a VG type. MiG-23 wings would fit her about right, I'd think.
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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2015, 10:05:53 AM »
Random idea:  USAF/USN/NASA Jaguars (mainly dual seaters) as early replacements for the T-38. Also operate in aggressor role.  Maybe even use single seaters in light attack role instead of A-7?
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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2015, 11:24:50 AM »
Random idea:  USAF/USN/NASA Jaguars (mainly dual seaters) as early replacements for the T-38. Also operate in aggressor role.  Maybe even use single seaters in light attack role instead of A-7?

Tease.

Or lets say the Jaguar M goes ahead and is adopted by the USN as an advanced trainer then also by the USMC as a replacement for (or instead of) the A-4M.

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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #45 on: February 21, 2015, 01:02:04 PM »
BTW "The Modelworks" did do the Agave radar conversion in both 1/72 and 1/48:



There is also a conversion kit with the Sea Eagle:



See here

Anyone able to contact these folk?  The contact email on their website doesn't work for me and I definitely want a number of those noses.

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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #46 on: February 21, 2015, 01:09:49 PM »
Which scale were you after?
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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #47 on: February 21, 2015, 01:18:36 PM »
Which scale were you after?
Both, but I'm especially after the 1/48 set, at least three or four of them (one will definitely be applied as an upgrade for testing on Jaguar M-05).

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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #48 on: February 21, 2015, 01:21:48 PM »
I can probably help you with the 1/48 one.  I have a copy in storage and could make some additional castings from it.  You will just have to wait at least 12mths due to the stuff being in storage whilst we build a new house.
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Re: SEPECAT Jaguar What-if and Inspirations
« Reply #49 on: February 21, 2015, 02:17:31 PM »
I can probably help you with the 1/48 one.  I have a copy in storage and could make some additional castings from it.  You will just have to wait at least 12mths due to the stuff being in storage whilst we build a new house.
Given the schedule at work, that's not likely to be a problem (dear ghod, they throw one more redesign at me and I'm going to be sorely tempted to "physically chastise" some stress engineers, I'm trying to get this design package finished and they keep throwing changes at me!).  The next 12 months promise to be "sporting", at the very least.  OTOH, if I can get a SLI model in 1/72 of our new installation, it will be fairly easy to install on Hasegawa's 1/72 V-22.

I'll gladly pay for the copies.  I really need to learn that as I've got some things I want to copy (including reasonable approximations of PW1120 nozzles).