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Re: F-23A photo recon version
« Reply #60 on: May 07, 2019, 06:33:19 AM »
I agree, not just height but length and width, too, seem a bit much.  OTOH, it could have a larger sensor head than EOTS has and that would explain a lot.

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Re: F-23A photo recon version
« Reply #61 on: May 07, 2019, 06:36:58 AM »
Yeah I wasn’t going for a straight F-35 copy but something along that line but 10 plus years prior. Either with more sensors or bulkier technology. Or both.

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Re: F-23A photo recon version
« Reply #62 on: May 07, 2019, 06:44:23 AM »
Yeah I wasn’t going for a straight F-35 copy but something along that line but 10 plus years prior. Either with more sensors or bulkier technology. Or both.
Given the size of the guts of EOTS, that's probably a realistic outlook.

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Re: F-23A photo recon version
« Reply #63 on: May 07, 2019, 07:24:51 AM »
Kudos for novel repurpose of sequins.  Is perfecto  :smiley:

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Re: F-23A photo recon version
« Reply #64 on: May 07, 2019, 10:07:32 AM »
The red, green and blue ones work great for the optics in modern armored vehicles.

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Re: F-23A photo recon version
« Reply #65 on: May 09, 2019, 11:47:32 AM »
Yeah I wasn’t going for a straight F-35 copy but something along that line but 10 plus years prior. Either with more sensors or bulkier technology. Or both.

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Re: RF-23A photo recon version
« Reply #66 on: May 09, 2019, 01:06:21 PM »
Thanks for the kind comments!!
I built a new version of the EOTS sensor windows. Looks much better to me. A lot sleeker yet still bigger than the F-35. Since this would be an earlier version I'm ok with that.



New version compared to the old version.



Now I have to fit the tail fins.  ::)

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Re: F-23A photo recon version
« Reply #67 on: May 09, 2019, 01:22:35 PM »
I like the new version, it quite fits an earlier iteration of the EOTS package (what you don't see on the F-35 is just how much interior space the EOTS unit takes up, along with power and coolant lines).

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Re: F-23A photo recon version
« Reply #68 on: May 09, 2019, 09:20:49 PM »
Yeah, definitely the new one  :smiley:

Interestingly, in your post all I can see is a white square with a 'no entry' symbol in it. However clicking on it takes me to your flickr page and I can see the pic.

Edit, and now I can see the pics in your post -----   :-\

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Re: F-23A photo recon version
« Reply #69 on: May 09, 2019, 10:48:23 PM »
 :smiley:
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Re: F-23A photo recon version
« Reply #70 on: May 09, 2019, 11:33:55 PM »
I wish I could find my red, blue and green sequins. It would be more colorful!

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Re: F-23A photo recon version
« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2019, 01:40:01 AM »
Regarding the size of your sensor windows, it can also be explained away by the fact that the sensors hidden away behind the shiny windows are larger, or more enhanced for performance of the reconnaissance and surveillance mission of the RF-23.  The sensor suite on your aircraft could also include other bits requiring a transparent [to signals, etc.] window for the sensitive sensor heads that hide behind the sensor windows.  There might also be a requirement for imaging things in duplicate to create stereoscopic images for the purpose of creating 3D images or map constructs for development of target folders and other products for future operations or contingencies. 
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Re: F-23A photo recon version
« Reply #72 on: May 10, 2019, 04:02:44 AM »
Your sleeker, second-generation EOTS is great ... and looks much less like the RW F-35 version.

... There might also be a requirement for imaging things in duplicate to create stereoscopic images for the purpose of creating 3D images or map constructs for development of target folders and other products for future operations or contingencies.

Cool idea Jeffry. That could also be a later, upgrade move. Earlier, larger sensors - dictating original sensor window size - replaced by smaller, duplicated sensors. And, I note, that LM's Advanced EOTS fits within the F-35's original windows  ;)
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Re: F-23A photo recon version
« Reply #73 on: May 10, 2019, 06:37:31 AM »
Thanks Stephen,

My first encounter with gee-whiz stuff such as what I described was a briefing given at Fort Bragg, NC back in 1987-1988 while I was still working the intelligence business.  Some staff officers were down to visit from the Beltway Bandits (aka DoD/Washington D.C.) to give us an overview of what was to come in the future.  Things such as computer enhanced maps with details added in using 3D CAD models all fused with digital terrain elevation data to create "virtual terrain" on a computer monitor.  All of it was really neat but way out of my pay grade or income bracket.  Flash forward a few years and what was shown to me during that briefing was or is pretty much common fare in all computer games now.  The other encounter was during a TDY assignment to that very same bunch of Beltway Bandits and the Christians in Action located in the Washington Navy Yard, in a place that has since moved to a new facility but at the time was the "holy grail" assignment location for plebes such as myself and to go there was a real treat.  I had a chance encounter with a former army officer I had worked with in Germany that was now employed as a civilian contractor in one of those same CIA shops at this place in the Washington Navy Yard.  I was given a quick run down on what they were doing with imagery products.  Essentially it was taking the imagery, crunching it in to data that could be further crunched by the computers and the resulting product could then be used to make street views of places that were under observation.  Some of this was to support contingency plans for rescue of embassy personnel or for other more dangerous things such counter-terrorism.  The image products that were created by these folks were incredible back in 1987-1988 but pale in comparison to what we now consider to be normal screen presentations in most of your FPS video games.  Prior to this, most of the street views were done by having some guy with a camera take images of each location (a real hazard in some places) so having the ability to create a "street view" of a location of interest was definitely a real step forward on the ladder of progress.  We take a lot of this for granted now but before my encounter with this technology back in 87-88, laptop computers and tablets were still pretty much out of our reach financially and technologically. 
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Re: F-23A photo recon version
« Reply #74 on: May 10, 2019, 07:00:24 AM »
A historical side note on 1988 laptops.

I purchased these two models for our air worthiness engineers at Transport Canada in 1988. Along with small dot matrix printer so they could print out certificates while on the road.

Toshiba T1200. Horrible little beasty.
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Toshiba T3100. Much better.
MS Dos 3.3. Intel cpu 80286 speed 8 MHz. Ram 640 KB graphic 9,6″ monochrome orange gas plasma. CGA 640×400. Harddisk 20 MB. Disk 3.5″ 720 KB







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