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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #300 on: November 27, 2018, 06:43:08 PM »
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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #301 on: March 14, 2019, 08:21:23 AM »
Has anyone done a swing-wing/variable geometry F-15?

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #302 on: March 14, 2019, 12:40:56 PM »
Has anyone done a swing-wing/variable geometry F-15?
Yes, it has been done here as a F-15N and armed with AIM-152 air-launched versions of the RIM-152 ESSM.

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #303 on: March 14, 2019, 12:46:44 PM »
Here's a nutty idea I've been kicking around lately. Take an F-15E and add a fuselage spine like the F-16I Sufa with all the other lumps and bumps. It would already have conformal fuel tanks so it wouldn't need the F-16 type. Add a butt kickn' paint job and a wagon load of weapons and it might just look pretty cool. Granted that some of the overseas versions of the Eagle might actually mirror this capability but hey, this is whiff world, why not....

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #304 on: March 14, 2019, 12:53:27 PM »
Sticking with upgrading the AIM-4 missiles for the Eagle?
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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #305 on: March 14, 2019, 06:43:33 PM »
Probably the latest sidewinders and a few JDAMs. Haven’t thought that part out completely.

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #306 on: March 15, 2019, 12:58:01 AM »
Ranom idea:  F-15 FSW demonstrator
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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #307 on: March 15, 2019, 01:35:10 AM »
Here's a nutty idea I've been kicking around lately. Take an F-15E and add a fuselage spine like the F-16I Sufa with all the other lumps and bumps. It would already have conformal fuel tanks so it wouldn't need the F-16 type. Add a butt kickn' paint job and a wagon load of weapons and it might just look pretty cool. Granted that some of the overseas versions of the Eagle might actually mirror this capability but hey, this is whiff world, why not....
Spine would be a pain to add to the F-15 since that would run right over the large airbrake up there.  I could see a conformal pallet on, or surrounding, the centerline hard point of more volume was needed for equipment.

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #308 on: March 15, 2019, 01:37:07 AM »
Sticking with upgrading the AIM-4 missiles for the Eagle?
F-15s never carried AIM-4 missiles.  JASDF ones carry AAM-4s along with AAM-3s.  I'd like to see F-15s carrying Meteor and IRIS-T missiles.

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #309 on: March 15, 2019, 02:02:58 AM »
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Spine would be a pain to add to the F-15 since that would run right over the large airbrake up there.  <...>


Would differential deflection of the flying surfaces akin to the Super Hornets be enough? I believe I read the Eagle did get a larger airbrake quite early as they found the one it had was a tad on the small side and didn't slow the Eagle down quite quickly enough.

F-15s never carried AIM-4 missiles.  JASDF ones carry AAM-4s along with AAM-3s.  I'd like to see F-15s carrying Meteor and IRIS-T missiles.


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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #310 on: March 15, 2019, 02:11:07 AM »
Okay, "never operationally" work better?  Though I believe that's an AIM-26, not an AIM-4.  Since the F-15 does not have all-moving tail surfaces, I believe it would still need the airbrake.  The first 12 prototypes had the small airbrake, all production F-15s have the large one.

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #311 on: March 15, 2019, 02:17:20 AM »
Does anyone know of a 1/48 kit or conversion for the F-15STOL/MTD, or S/MTD?


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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #312 on: March 15, 2019, 02:35:53 AM »
"Spined" F-15s. Did these for the Soviet GB a while back, but - apparently - never posted them in this thread.

MiG-29SMT-style hump:

F-15_SMT by Motschke, on Flickr

Quoting myself from the original thread (Taaidantomcat's F-15ski - LINK)
"Taking kerick's idea of modified stabs and adding some further MiG-29 doodads:
The stabs are from a MiG-25 and are to scale. I tried MiG-29 stabs, but they're either too small (same scale) or too big (MiG-29 in a bigger scale than the F-15). Personally, I'd try to mod the F-15 stabs to a more Fulcrum-ish look (add fin fillet and flare launchers, angled cut-off at the top).
Depending on the version of R-27 used, it may be impossible to get a pair in tandem on the flanks.
"

F-15_SMT_2 by Motschke, on Flickr


F-15 "Foxhound". Not sure I like the look. Originally wanted to put AA-9/R-33s on it, but... well... didn't.

F-15_Foxhound by Motschke, on Flickr

Okay, "never operationally" work better?

Sure.  ;)
The background information states it's an AIM-4.
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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #313 on: March 15, 2019, 02:53:18 AM »
I don't know of a 1/48 F-15SMTD and even the 1/72 one by Hasegawa does not have the 2-D engine nozzles.  OTOH, the canards are F-18 horizontals so that gives you a start.

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #314 on: March 15, 2019, 07:30:58 AM »
Has anyone done a swing-wing/variable geometry F-15?
Yes, it has been done here as a F-15N and armed with AIM-152 air-launched versions of the RIM-152 ESSM.
Forgive me, but I'm unable to find it on the thread, unless the image has been deleted.

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #315 on: March 15, 2019, 08:25:41 AM »
IIRC, there was a whole thread on a swing-wing naval F-15 by crossing a F-111 kit with an F-15.  Anyone else remember this one?

Addendum:  I was in error, the thread was on the What-If Forum and was a 2006 build by anthonyP,
http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,12610.msg173290.html#msg173290

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #316 on: March 15, 2019, 10:16:47 AM »
Yeah, they're all gone now. Shame. :(

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #317 on: March 15, 2019, 10:28:24 AM »
"Spined" F-15s. Did these for the Soviet GB a while back, but - apparently - never posted them in this thread.

MiG-29SMT-style hump:

F-15_SMT by Motschke, on Flickr

Quoting myself from the original thread (Taaidantomcat's F-15ski - LINK)
"Taking kerick's idea of modified stabs and adding some further MiG-29 doodads:
The stabs are from a MiG-25 and are to scale. I tried MiG-29 stabs, but they're either too small (same scale) or too big (MiG-29 in a bigger scale than the F-15). Personally, I'd try to mod the F-15 stabs to a more Fulcrum-ish look (add fin fillet and flare launchers, angled cut-off at the top).
Depending on the version of R-27 used, it may be impossible to get a pair in tandem on the flanks.
"

F-15_SMT_2 by Motschke, on Flickr


F-15 "Foxhound". Not sure I like the look. Originally wanted to put AA-9/R-33s on it, but... well... didn't.

F-15_Foxhound by Motschke, on Flickr

Okay, "never operationally" work better?

Sure.  ;)
The background information states it's an AIM-4.


I like the Foxhound version a lot! I'm wondering if it would be possible to move the air brake to the top of the hump? Just thinking off the top of my head here. I may have to get out my F-15E kit from the stash and do some comparisons.

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #318 on: March 15, 2019, 11:10:22 AM »
Moving the airbrake to the top of the spine should be possible, though I think I'd run the spine all the way back and have the slope a bit more gentle.  You might need to run it down the sides of the spine and out a bit onto the upper surface to get enough area (neither the standard F-15 nor the SU-27 family have small airbrakes).

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #319 on: March 15, 2019, 11:28:27 AM »
Though I believe that's an AIM-26, not an AIM-4.
The background information states it's an AIM-4.

I was kinda having the XAIM-4H and its what-if development in mind- I've been under the impression that it would be based on the smaller AIM-4D airframe.

I was aware of the picture but never paid attention to the fact that it was the bigger AIM-4G.
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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #320 on: March 16, 2019, 03:24:55 AM »
Well, the F-15 could have become VG if the early LFAX-4 concept was developed:


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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #321 on: March 16, 2019, 04:21:07 AM »
Interesting view for the super detailing crowd:

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #322 on: March 16, 2019, 04:28:17 AM »
I don't know of a 1/48 F-15SMTD and even the 1/72 one by Hasegawa does not have the 2-D engine nozzles.  OTOH, the canards are F-18 horizontals so that gives you a start.

You are right re the canards.  Does anyone have good drawings of the 2D nozzle?
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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #323 on: March 16, 2019, 04:44:24 AM »
IIRC, there was a whole thread on a swing-wing naval F-15 by crossing a F-111 kit with an F-15.  Anyone else remember this one?

Addendum:  I was in error, the thread was on the What-If Forum and was a 2006 build by anthonyP,
http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,12610.msg173290.html#msg173290

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Here you go - some of the images from that thread:







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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #324 on: March 16, 2019, 05:52:56 AM »
Interesting view for the super detailing crowd:



Lots of empty space around that gun! Hmmmm, pack it full of six packs, fly a quick mission, come back with cold beer.....