Author Topic: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)  (Read 1448 times)

Offline Twiddle

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2018, 08:05:10 PM »
Some progress today.

Initially thought of chucking it in the bin (taking way longer than I planned  :o :( ) however I will continue  :))

Started with the sponson supports

Right hand side





The gap will be used for the power plant

Left hand side



Topside view

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Offline perttime

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2018, 09:27:37 PM »
Hmmmm. I have a suspicion about nationality....

Offline Brian da Basher

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2018, 06:40:36 AM »
I'm glad you're going to see this build through!

Work of this caliber should indeed be taken to its conclusion.

Three cheers!
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Brian da Basher

Offline Old Wombat

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2018, 03:13:20 PM »
Hmmmm. I have a suspicion about nationality....

Does it involve a blue six-pointed star on a white background? ???
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Offline perttime

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2018, 08:38:48 PM »
I wasn't thinking of a six-pointed star - although that would be logical from the technical point of view.

Offline Twiddle

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2018, 10:57:31 PM »
Some progress on the LH sponson





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Offline Brian da Basher

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2018, 01:17:30 AM »
That's some fine looking work, Twiddle!

You have some serious modeling chops!

It never ceases to amaze me how much you can do with just a bit of card.

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Offline finsrin

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2018, 05:39:34 AM »
Ambitious build you are following thru with.  Is lesson in plastic surgery we can all learn from.
Liking the pictures.

Offline Twiddle

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2018, 10:51:54 PM »
Haven't  had too much time for whiffing

small amount of progress

Left sponson more or less done



I am toying with the idea of making this a wheeled APC .

Photo shows a 1/35 DEF Model HEMTT wheel for comparison. Too small or plausible in real life?

Might have to source 1/16 scale military tyres should the 1/35 wheels look too small ...

Front view



right hand side sponson



Gap will be used for engine exhaust

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Offline Frank3k

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2018, 01:20:52 AM »
I think the HEMTT  wheels look good - compare them to the Centauro or a LAV.
 
The hardest part will be scratchbuilding the suspension, unless you have a set handy.

Offline Rickshaw

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2018, 07:28:34 PM »
If it is to be wheeled, you'll need to lose about 10-15% of your internal space to allow for the turning circle required - unless you make it skid-steer.  Skid-steer haven't been terribly successful as military vehicles.  The British tried a six-wheeled vehicle out until they realised that they would have to replace the tyres appreciably faster than in a normally steered vehicle.  The French, with their AMX-10 armoured car, decided they could wear the cost and made it skid steer.

Offline tankmodeler

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2018, 12:20:51 AM »
The sides of the lower hull definitely aren't suitable for any even partially realistic wheeled suspension system as was mentioned, plus, if the aim is to make this a _heavy_ APC, wheels definitely aren't the way to go. Ground pressure is already high for the larger wheeled APCs around today, compromising mobility off road. A heavy APC (Namer is running 60 tons!) would have really bad manoeuverability on wheels over rough or soft ground and would probably need 5 or even 6 wheels per side to be able to support itself even half reasonably.

I'd back off on the wheeled suspension and stick with tracks.

Paul

Offline Brian da Basher

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2018, 01:10:44 AM »
Personally I like the wheels too. It's an interesting change and I think they'll look good under those sponsons.

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« Last Edit: October 23, 2018, 02:58:20 AM by Brian da Basher »

Offline Twiddle

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2018, 04:54:08 AM »
Going with the tracks.

The HEMTT wheels I want to save for other projects  >:D ;)

This is one helluva bash - seeing that I've never built a kit before tackling this one.

Keep on making mistakes - but ja this in turns results in a continuous improvement (aka Industrial Engineering what I studied at Uni.)

Challenging but fun.

Thanks for making BtS so great :)
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