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« on: December 15, 2011, 09:46:41 AM »
Michael Benolkin has posted a review of the DML 1:200 scale Northrop YB-49 kit that provides images and a description of the kit contents.  It certainly has potential for speculative and fictional modeling subjects. 


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Brian, this should appeal to you in that it is certainly much smaller than the AMT/Ertl/Italeri B-35/B-49 kits and might work to your favor for any possible projects you have in mind for the flying wing. 

I wonder if DML will offer the B-35 in the same scale? 
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2011, 11:33:44 AM »
I had heard that DML is planning the XB-35 as well as the V-bombers in 1/200 scale. They already have an assembled display model of the Vulcan in 1/200 as well as the YB-49.

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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2011, 12:02:20 PM »
I have this kit; the most annoying part is the odd (for aircraft) scale. 1/144 or 1/350 would have been better. Even in 1/200 it's a sizable kit (at least in wingspan). Looking at the instructions, the main landing gear has an odd attachment method. It'll make a great whif, though. And at 1/200, it's almost exactly the same wingspan as the N-9M, the 1/3 scale version of the B-35.

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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2011, 04:29:09 AM »
Thanks for the tip, Mr Fontaine! I'll be keeping an eye out!

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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 09:44:07 PM »
Looks like Dragon is getting into real-space 72nd in a big way with a Mercury/Redstone combo and this little beauty

http://www.hlj.com/product/DRA11003

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2012, 05:26:45 AM »
and not too far behind their release of the  Nbfz multi-turret tank ( Krupp version ) Dragon has
 released the Rheinmetal version with its uber-cool over & under guns and frame antennae! Whoo!

 review by Cookie Sewell at Hyperscale:

 http://www.missing-lynx.com/reviews/small/dml7436reviewcs_1.html
 

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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2012, 05:40:24 AM »
I picked that kit up along with a Vulcan with the thought of Scale-o-Rama-ing them into something 1/72.   But, after looking at the kits themselves better,  I'm second guessing myself.   :)
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2012, 05:42:28 AM »
If this is the place for Cyberhobby as well, one of the gaffes they did on the new Sea Venom is perfect for whiff-land with that overextended wing.  PR or HF Sea Venom's anyone?    :-*
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2012, 08:21:06 AM »
I picked that kit up along with a Vulcan with the thought of Scale-o-Rama-ing them into something 1/72.   But, after looking at the kits themselves better,  I'm second guessing myself.   :)

Yeah, that relatively odd scale of 1/200 kinda earmark them for scale-o-ramas. I got meself a Vulcan to kitbash it with a 1/72 Hawker Hunter fuselage into a 1/72 bird. Maybe as a Vulcan proof-of-concept design. After looking things over, I'm now thinking of kitbashing it with a Revell 1/144 Tornado (or two) to make a two- or even three-seater attack aircraft.
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2012, 03:26:17 AM »
Something tasty for those of us who build 1/144!  :icon_beer:



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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2012, 03:30:27 AM »
I hope they put 2 in there since its so tiny!  That one will make a lot of whiffers happy  8)
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2012, 03:57:42 AM »
The only problem is if I built one, I'd probably reverse the wings so they're swept-back.
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2012, 04:03:01 AM »
The only problem is if I built one, I'd probably reverse the wings so they're swept-back.
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2012, 07:55:24 AM »
Same here! I was big on FSW until I started modeling them in X-Plane. They were not much fun to fly. An X-29 with normal wings would look cool!

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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2012, 08:10:14 AM »
An X-29 with normal wings?  :icon_surprised: Never thought of that! Hmmm.... F-16 or Rafale wings? While keeping the canards?
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2012, 08:15:26 AM »
I guess I'm not thinking far enough outside of the box on this one.  I just wanted one in USN aggressor colors with the blue AIM-9 and data pod on the wingtips  :-\
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2012, 08:40:00 AM »
To be different, what about a X-29 with F-104 wings...but with no anhedral.
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2012, 09:13:43 PM »
To be different, what about a X-29 with F-104 wings...but with no anhedral.

Wouldn't that be an F-5 then Greg ??????

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« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2012, 02:57:26 AM »
Kind of but not quite...it would certainly confuse. 

Another option might be some sort of box-wing.
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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2012, 11:46:09 PM »
This one isn't new but I'm glad to see it coming back, especially as a somewhat cheaper "Orange Box" version-

T34/85M
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I've been on the hunt for one of these for a couple years now but I keep missing them on eBay or the prices are more than I care to spend. ~ $30 US MSRP seems pretty reasonable.

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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2012, 10:39:50 PM »
Bernd Heller has provided an in-box kit review of the Dragon 1/144th scale Bell X-1 (Number 4630) for anyone interested in this subject at Modellversium.de

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I usually do not have that much interest in models in such small scale but I have to admit that I am quite impressed with the amount of detail that Dragon has managed to stuff into that little model.  The one-piece slide molded fuselage sections (forward and aft) are also quite impressive.  Certainly takes the issue of alignment out of the equation when you have only one piece to deal with instead of the traditional left and right halves or worse, the left, right, top, and bottom or any combination based on that. 

I am tempted to get a set just to see how they would look as a scale-o-rama item on a larger scale model where they would play the role of a decoy or target drone.  Granted all of that wonderful internal detail would be wasted in such an effort but it would certainly be interesting resources for such a project.  I have to blame Greg Twiner for that idea ever since he posted that image of a Mirage III O superimposed in front of an obviously larger F-4 which got me to wondering what small scale modern aircraft might look functional mounted on a stores pylon of a larger aircraft.  Most of the 1/350th scale aircraft are far too small for such things unless you are working in 1/72nd or 1/144th scale where you could get away with that but not in 1/48th scale.  So maybe this little Bell X-1 kit is the solution. 
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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2012, 01:46:39 AM »
I sincerely hope there is truth to what I hear about Dragon planing all three V Bombers in small scale.

I have their Vulcan and quite like it, so I do hope a Valiant and Victor are in the pipeline somewhere.
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« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2012, 07:57:26 AM »
Every time you eat celery,an angel vomits in a gas station bathroom. Tanks rule. I know the load is late,but the voices tell me to pull over and clean the guns.

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« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2012, 10:31:10 AM »
WOW! I don't know what's more impressive - a 1/35 T-28 that doesn't require a house mortgage to buy or that DML is putting out a non-German WWII kit. I thought the NAZIs won that war?

That T-28 is going to be over a foot of plastic tank goodness.

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« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2012, 11:31:19 AM »
Word of warning to anyone who has or is thinking about purchasing the recent DML 1/700 HMS Amazon Type 21 Frigate kit; someone got their scales mismatched!  The hull is 1/600 while the rest is 1/700  :-\  DML has apparently been notified up the ladder about this but what if anything they are doing or are going to do about it is still anyone's guess. 


Just giving a head's up, it might work to our advantage as whiffers  ;) 
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« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2012, 07:27:16 PM »
Word of warning to anyone who has or is thinking about purchasing the recent DML 1/700 HMS Amazon Type 21 Frigate kit; someone got their scales mismatched!  The hull is 1/600 while the rest is 1/700  :-\  DML has apparently been notified up the ladder about this but what if anything they are doing or are going to do about it is still anyone's guess. 


Just giving a head's up, it might work to our advantage as whiffers  ;)

I had heard that and went looking for one, be great for a notional Broad Beam Amazon but also got me thinking about an old Airfix County I have sitting incomplete somewhere, 183m overall length, Seadart and hanger for a pair of Seakings........

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« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2012, 07:41:14 PM »
Word of warning to anyone who has or is thinking about purchasing the recent DML 1/700 HMS Amazon Type 21 Frigate kit; someone got their scales mismatched!  The hull is 1/600 while the rest is 1/700  :-\  DML has apparently been notified up the ladder about this but what if anything they are doing or are going to do about it is still anyone's guess. 


Just giving a head's up, it might work to our advantage as whiffers  ;)

I had heard that and went looking for one, be great for a notional Broad Beam Amazon but also got me thinking about an old Airfix County I have sitting incomplete somewhere, 183m overall length, Seadart and hanger for a pair of Seakings........

I had ideas about scaleorama'ing an Airfix 1/600th Amazon to 1/700th to make a "proper Amazon" for the RN, similar to the Brazilian Niterois.

If the DML ship is really wrong by 600/700 in a lldimensions, then it works out perfectly in length, but wider than a Niteroi in beam - mind you, that'd be no bad thing...
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« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2012, 06:48:50 AM »
Bad news on DML's U.S. T-28 super-Tank .... in their rush to get a super-tank on the shelves they've goofed, despite the warnings to them from knowledgeable people.  They used standard 23" tracks instead of 19.5" ones making the whole vehicle too wide, this also makes the basic hull too wide as well so even scratch-building new a hull won't fix much .... but great whiffing fodder now :)

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« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2012, 04:30:47 AM »
Bad news on DML's U.S. T-28 super-Tank .... in their rush to get a super-tank on the shelves they've goofed, despite the warnings to them from knowledgeable people.  They used standard 23" tracks instead of 19.5" ones making the whole vehicle too wide, this also makes the basic hull too wide as well so even scratch-building new a hull won't fix much .... but great whiffing fodder now :)

That's disappointing. I knew that they'd goofed on the suspension by including the top shock absorber but I figured that could be dealt with. However, the wider tracks are a deal killer as far as building stock goes. The lower hull could still be useful for some sort of rear drive Sherman WhIf.

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« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2012, 04:55:47 PM »
So, it's a Whiff-in-a-Box!........ & people are seeing a problem with this?.......... Here? ???




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« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2012, 01:58:59 AM »
I like your thinking! :)
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« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2013, 04:54:56 AM »
Dave Manter has provided us with a look inside the box of the 1:700th scale DML USS Fort Worth (LCS-3) over at CyberModeler. 

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« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2013, 02:53:35 PM »
Dave Manter has provided an in-box kit review of the DML 1:700th scale USS Chicago (CG-11) Guided Missile Cruiser at CyberModeler. 

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« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2013, 09:28:44 AM »
This,to me,came way out of left field. A DML M48A3.

http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/newkitnews/dml.html

I wonder how well this kit will compare to the new AFV Club version.
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« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2013, 11:20:35 AM »
^ :icon_surprised: Does Dragon realize this is neither WWII nor German?  ;D
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« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2013, 07:37:42 PM »
^ :icon_surprised: Does Dragon realize this is neither WWII nor German?  ;D

They may be running out of those type of subjects. ;) ;D
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« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2013, 08:28:24 AM »
Hmmm... a Mod B would make an accurate M48A5 a bit less work than starting with the Tamiya kit. Yeah, there's the Academy 'A5 but I always thought the suspension and front hull shape were a bit "wonky".

Although I don't have the raging hate for the Tamiya M48A3 that some folks in the armor modeling community have, it'll be nice to have a kit that features today's level of detailing as opposed to one tooled 30-odd years ago.

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« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2013, 08:33:13 AM »
Hmmm... a Mod B would make an accurate M48A5 a bit less work than starting with the Tamiya kit. Yeah, there's the Academy 'A5 but I always thought the suspension and front hull shape were a bit "wonky".

Although I don't have the raging hate for the Tamiya M48A3 that some folks in the armor modeling community have, it'll be nice to have a kit that features today's level of detailing as opposed to one tooled 30-odd years ago.

I did notice that the kit in that link does not have the holes in the sprocket,and no canvas for the main gun mantlet,and no canvas for the .50 MG. I have no clue as to what the B designation means.
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« Reply #39 on: May 08, 2013, 10:02:51 AM »
I did notice that the kit in that link does not have the holes in the sprocket,and no canvas for the main gun mantlet,and no canvas for the .50 MG. I have no clue as to what the B designation means.
As I understand it, the Model B designation was used for tanks that had received a number of component improvements and standardization that the initial M48A3 didn't always get. In many cases, A3s had been converted from older "flat deck" tanks and retained features that weren't common to the later M48A2 and M60 family tanks. Just one example is the use of the headlight "pods" that came in to use with the M48A2 and continued through the M60A3. I'm sure a more dedicated M48 fan can explain it better but that's what I know.

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« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2013, 11:05:50 AM »
Not a new release but an older kit I'm happy to see return:
US M46 Patton

I've always liked this tank but it's been frustratingly hard to find the last few years.

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2013, 03:35:46 AM »
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« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2013, 03:49:59 AM »
Giggity giggity!

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Click on the image above to view the details at ScaleMates.

Hopefully they will also offer the M103A2. 

How about an M103 RISE Passive with laser rangefinder feature from the M60A3 and a thermal shroud for the gun tube?  Or swap out the entire main gun for what the Abrams is packing with the L55 tube from the Leopard 2A6 just to be different. :)

Another one to consider would be an M103 with the 152mm gun/missile launcher from the MBT-70/XM803. 

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« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2013, 04:02:16 AM »

Click on the image above to view the details at ScaleMates.


Not that there are a lot of details out yet... ;)
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« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2013, 04:03:53 AM »
Click on the image above to view the details at ScaleMates.
Not that there are a lot of details out yet... ;)


Have to start someplace.  Hopefully the page at ScaleMates will have more information as it becomes available :)

PMMS has the same picture above plus one more that shows some of the kit features under their "New Kit News" section for Dragon. 
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2013, 08:42:49 AM »
An M103! F*** YEAH!

I'll need at least one for a "Codename Panzers: Cold War" diorama.

Just a couple of months ago, when they announced three different Object 279 kits, I wondered in another post on a German website why no one rather did an M103 or a new T-72 family. Now, a little while later Trumpeter has announced a T-72B and Dragon an M103.
So..... what should I wish for next?  :icon_beer: A new Chieftain? AMX-10RC? ERC-90? Something South African? That Tamiya continues their T-55 line-up and gives us a nice T-55M next?
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2013, 10:04:05 AM »
Affordable good quality Centurions in a range of versions covering the major operators, conflicts served in and upgrades?

Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2013, 10:08:06 AM »
M103!  :-* Another great and long over-due release! I'm glad to see they've done it as a "flat deck" although a modernized diesel engine version would be cool too.
 
So..... what should I wish for next?  :icon_beer: A new Chieftain? AMX-10RC? ERC-90? Something South African? That Tamiya continues their T-55 line-up and gives us a nice T-55M next?

I'd definitely vote for the AMX 10RC and a Tamiya T55M. As for "something South African", a current generation Olifant would be nice. But hey, if your wishes are having an effect on what kits get produced, would you mind wishing for a T23 US experimental medium tank? Thanks! ;)

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« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2013, 12:17:54 PM »
A different picture, from the Japan Hobby Show of the impending Dragon M103 kit:


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« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2013, 03:05:09 PM »
For those that are interested, there is an M103 on display at the 45th infantry museum in Oklahoma City. That thing is frikking HUGE .... !!!!!!!   I couldn't believe just how big it is .....  The one on display was painted in a green so dark,it looked black,too.  I don't know if they have a website but it might be worth looking to see as they had a large number of different aircraft and vehicles on display there.  BTW, the aircraft are all displayed on stands like model aircraft,too. Been a long time since I was there so I'm thinking I should make a trip in the near future.  If anybody gets a chance to pass thru Oklahoma City, they have a very large number of museums of every sort there.
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #50 on: October 13, 2013, 04:03:54 AM »

So..... what should I wish for next?  :icon_beer: A new Chieftain? AMX-10RC? ERC-90? Something South African? That Tamiya continues their T-55 line-up and gives us a nice T-55M next?

An Olifant in 1/35 would be nice. 
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #51 on: October 13, 2013, 04:19:49 AM »
An Olifant in 1/35 would be nice.

Maybe that is something that could be done by AFV Club since they have a very nice Centurion already kitted up in several versions it would make sense for them to offer the Olifant as part of that family of vehicles. 
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #52 on: October 13, 2013, 04:56:36 AM »
It is great to see this will be in plastic soon. :icon_music:
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« Reply #53 on: October 13, 2013, 04:59:25 AM »
It is great to see this will be in plastic soon. :icon_music:
Hopefully the M103A2 will not be far behind. 

Maybe they can also produce the M51 ARV in to compliment the M103? 
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #54 on: October 13, 2013, 05:06:56 AM »
Another one to consider would be an M103 with the 152mm gun/missile launcher from the MBT-70/XM803.

This idea is growing on me!
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #55 on: October 13, 2013, 05:09:17 AM »
Another one to consider would be an M103 with the 152mm gun/missile launcher from the MBT-70/XM803.
This idea is growing on me!

Glad to be of assistance :)

How about a Bundeswehr M103 armed with a 12.8 cm main gun?  Ammunition size was about the same as the American 120mm two component ammunition so it would not be too far fetched to just give it a bigger gun :)
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« Reply #56 on: October 13, 2013, 07:46:57 AM »
A low velocity gun/missile launcher, with coaxial 105 or 120mm and a turret mounted RCS with an 20-30mm auto canon?

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« Reply #57 on: October 15, 2013, 12:10:11 AM »
Given the current pattern of releases, Criswill Predicts! a Conquerer Heavy gun tank from Meng...
But I Dragon does one too, that's be great. There is also an M 103 up at Ft. Hood - or there was twenty some odd years ago. Like the good father said - its huge.

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« Reply #58 on: October 15, 2013, 12:40:24 AM »
Given the current pattern of releases, Criswill Predicts! a Conquerer Heavy gun tank from Meng...
But I Dragon does one too, that's be great. There is also an M 103 up at Ft. Hood - or there was twenty some odd years ago. Like the good father said - its huge.
The USMC Reserve Center located in Yakima, Washington has an M103 on the front lawn.  I was lucky to have had access to the inside of the vehicle one year during a local mocel show.  Huge is a good description for the internal space afforded the crew of an M103.  It is indeed very spacious inside with a lot of room for the two loaders to maneuver the separate loading ammunition (cartridge and projectile) to service the piece. 
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« Reply #59 on: October 26, 2013, 04:14:36 AM »
...... with a lot of room for the two loaders ......... 

Lol, thats just about says it all about the size thing! And this at a time when Soviet tankers had to be under 5ft to fit in theirs  ;D

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« Reply #60 on: October 26, 2013, 04:59:27 AM »
...... with a lot of room for the two loaders ......... 
Lol, thats just about says it all about the size thing! And this at a time when Soviet tankers had to be under 5ft to fit in theirs  ;D

You could have a party inside that turret with all of that space available.  The empty shell racks would make excellent bottle storage :)
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« Reply #61 on: October 26, 2013, 05:05:35 AM »
Design fault really, unused volume is just space for thicker armour!!!!!

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« Reply #62 on: December 02, 2013, 10:49:34 PM »
First the M103, now this!  :o

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« Reply #63 on: December 02, 2013, 11:11:44 PM »
Argh, the wallet will take another hit!

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« Reply #64 on: December 03, 2013, 03:32:09 AM »
yaaaaayy, i soo need a few of those  8)

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« Reply #65 on: December 03, 2013, 03:50:32 AM »
About bloody time someone offered an injection molded MBT-70/XM803 in 1:35th scale!  Of course there will be much hand-wringing and lamenting on the part of those that purchased the resin kit.  :)
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« Reply #66 on: December 03, 2013, 04:20:16 AM »
Had couple of Aurora (1/48?) MBT-70 kits way back when.

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« Reply #67 on: December 03, 2013, 05:16:41 AM »
Of course there will be much hand-wringing and lamenting on the part of those that purchased the resin kit.  :)

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« Reply #68 on: December 03, 2013, 06:09:01 AM »
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« Reply #69 on: December 03, 2013, 06:23:37 AM »
Nawp, that be an M103.
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« Reply #70 on: December 03, 2013, 07:29:13 AM »
MBT - 70... The GI Joe tank!


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« Reply #71 on: December 03, 2013, 08:15:12 AM »
Must have an MBT 70.
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« Reply #72 on: December 03, 2013, 08:36:48 AM »
M103, MBT70, looks like the Cold War is finally getting a look in.  I wonder how soon before we see a Conqueror?  Meng might be the best bet for that.   I also wonder how soon before we see various conversions for the MBT70?

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« Reply #73 on: December 04, 2013, 03:25:30 AM »
hmm was thinking same, a General Dynamics DIVAD turret would look sweet on the MBT.70 :)

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« Reply #74 on: December 04, 2013, 10:33:56 AM »
M103, MBT70, looks like the Cold War is finally getting a look in.  I wonder how soon before we see a Conqueror?  Meng might be the best bet for that.   I also wonder how soon before we see various conversions for the MBT70?

Well as I have just started the Accurate Armour Mk11 Chieftain.. you can almost bank in one of those.
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« Reply #75 on: December 04, 2013, 01:15:42 PM »
MBT70   ... want .... no ..... NEED one   :-*

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« Reply #77 on: January 30, 2014, 06:01:02 AM »
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« Reply #79 on: February 15, 2014, 01:54:57 PM »
HobbySearch/1999.co.jp now announces the M103 as "in stock"! LINK  8)

Lots of parts not for use! Looks like parts for a different engine deck. Could that mean an M103BA2 isn't that far off?

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« Reply #80 on: February 15, 2014, 02:06:25 PM »
Lots of parts not for use!

The Missing-Lynx - Modern Armor forum is saying that the extra parts originate from the M48 kit which makes sense since much of the automotive components for both tanks were the same.  It might be relatively easy to take the engine deck from a late model M48 and mate it with the M103 to make the diesel powered M103A2 (the one that I want). 

Possible what-if to consider for a Bundeswehr M103A1G/M103A2G would be armed with the Krupp 12.8cm/L55 with the perforated muzzle break just to spice things up a bit :)
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« Reply #81 on: February 15, 2014, 02:57:47 PM »
Thanks for the heads-up, Jeff!  :)

Bundeswehr M103s, huh?  ??? Hadn't considered that. Could look very cool, though. Awww, great, now I need two M103s.  :-X Maybe cross-kitting with some of the parts from Revell's upcoming M48A2GA2?
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« Reply #82 on: February 15, 2014, 03:17:12 PM »
Thanks for the heads-up, Jeff!  :)

Bundeswehr M103s, huh?  ??? Hadn't considered that. Could look very cool, though. Awww, great, now I need two M103s.  :-X Maybe cross-kitting with some of the parts from Revell's upcoming M48A2GA2?


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I am curious to know if that Revell Germany M48A2GA2 is a new tool or a borrowed mold from another company with additional parts sprues for that version. 

You could also try to use the engine deck from the Tamiya M48, M247, M60A1, M60A2, or the corresponding Academy kits of the same subjects.  There might be clearance issues between the bottom of the turret overhanging the engine deck area but it is certainly worth a try. 

As for the back story for that M103A1G/M103A2G: Perhaps it was a development to counter the Soviet 130mm assault gun tanks (such as the SU-130 or SU-152) that were assigned to special Front and Army level assault gun units located in the Western Military Districts of the USSR, the GSFG, and other Warsaw Pact countries that had USSR forces stationed within their borders that were field army or larger units. 
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« Reply #83 on: February 15, 2014, 03:52:16 PM »
As far as I know, the Revell M48A2GA2 will be a completely new kit!
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« Reply #84 on: February 15, 2014, 05:11:26 PM »
Still hanging out for an injection moulded Conqueror FOV and a Centurion FOV would be nice too, 1/72, 1/48, or 1/35, I'm not fussy.  Maybe some Comets for good measure too  ;)

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« Reply #85 on: February 16, 2014, 04:21:18 AM »

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But you carry them out with such fervour... ;)

I'm thinking Israeli M103 with Reactive armour etc…similar to some of their Magach series.
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« Reply #86 on: February 16, 2014, 05:12:27 AM »
How about some APCs to go with these Cold War heavies? M59, M75, FV432, AMX VCI etc...
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« Reply #87 on: February 16, 2014, 05:22:10 AM »
Such as…

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Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial  >:D
But you carry them out with such fervour... ;)

I'm thinking Israeli M103 with Reactive armour etc…similar to some of their Magach series.


IDF M103A2 as a Tiran with the Russian 122mm gun replacing the American 120mm gun.  You get the wicked looking muzzle brake and some big boxes attached to the sides of the turret to provide more stowage space :)
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« Reply #89 on: February 16, 2014, 07:52:32 AM »
So not to threadjack, links to the new M48A2GA2?

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« Reply #90 on: February 16, 2014, 09:28:09 AM »
Such as…

<Retrokit 1/35th M75>


Blimey, that's a BIG lump of solid resin...

I suggested the APCs as things that Dragon/Meng et all could make as injection kits to go with their current oddball heavy tanks obsession.

On the latter, if they're going to do the M6, then how about some of the British prototypes like the TOG 1, TOG 2 and Black Prince? Alternatively, since Meng have done a Char-2C, how about a French ARL-44, which actually saw limited service?
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« Reply #92 on: February 16, 2014, 10:01:23 AM »
Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial  >:D
But you carry them out with such fervour... ;)

I'm thinking Israeli M103 with Reactive armour etc…similar to some of their Magach series.


IDF M103A2 as a Tiran with the Russian 122mm gun replacing the American 120mm gun.  You get the wicked looking muzzle brake and some big boxes attached to the sides of the turret to provide more stowage space :)

Why replace a more accurate gun with a less accurate one?  The 122mm from the JSIII suffered (like a lot of ex-artillery pieces pressed into tank service) from excessive dispersion (and poor optics).  The M58 120mm was by all accounts an excellent weapon, which is one of the reasons why it was adopted in the Conqueror.  Split loading was it's only problem but again, that was one commonly shared with most weapons of that calibre at that time.

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« Reply #93 on: February 16, 2014, 02:31:46 PM »
Not quite solid:  http://www.amps-armor.org/ampssite/reviews/showReview.aspx?ID=2314&Type=FB

It seems that RetroKits web page is no longer active and the domain name is now for sale :(
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #94 on: February 17, 2014, 02:22:20 AM »
Not so sure, try here:  http://www.retrokitonline.net  + the link in the above post still works for me.

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« Reply #95 on: February 17, 2014, 05:47:04 AM »
Not so sure, try here:  http://www.retrokitonline.net  + the link in the above post still works for me.

Awfully tempted to get some of these guys to help me…

The AMPS article works for me as well, it was the link provided within the linked page for RetroKit that was incorrect. 

So it was retrokitonline.com in the link which lead to the dead domain up for sale announcement instead of the correct address of retrokitonline.net which makes all the difference in getting to the correct page. 
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #96 on: February 28, 2014, 11:16:48 AM »
Coming soon to a store near you: 1:350th scale USS Florida SSGN 728 (kit number DRA 1056) Modified Ohio Class Ballistic Missile Submarine that was converted to carry a butt load of Tomahawk cruise missiles, Dry Deck Shelters for Seal Delivery Vehicles, and internal accommodations for up to 60 special forces personnel and mission support technicians.  MSRP is ~$45.00. 

Click on html above or thumbnail below to view additional details for this kit at DragonmodelsUSA.com

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« Reply #97 on: March 03, 2014, 10:53:35 PM »
"Vodnik" has posted a review of the M103. LINK Long story short, sadly: complete and utter fustercluck!  :-X
This is not overly critical rivet-counting making a big fuss over a mm off here or there. You gotta wonder whether Dragon actually looked at the 103 at all. It's almost as if they didn't even try.  :icon_twisted:
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« Reply #98 on: March 04, 2014, 06:42:44 AM »
Ah well... Opens up whiffing opportunities. ;)
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« Reply #99 on: March 04, 2014, 07:47:06 AM »
"Vodnik" has posted a review of the M103. LINK Long story short, sadly: complete and utter fustercluck!  :-X
This is not overly critical rivet-counting making a big fuss over a mm off here or there. You gotta wonder whether Dragon actually looked at the 103 at all. It's almost as if they didn't even try.  :icon_twisted:

The glaring errors hopefully work in our favour and the price on the M103 kit will be substantially discounted which would be the one good thing to come out of Vodnik's brutal critique of the kit.   :icon_ninja:
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« Reply #100 on: March 04, 2014, 08:06:51 AM »
The glaring errors hopefully work in our favour and the price on the M103 kit will be substantially discounted which would be the one good thing to come out of Vodnik's brutal critique of the kit.   :icon_ninja:

Do you know that for sure yet?  Watch them still ask a pant load of $$$ for it flaws and all!  Trumpeter does it...why not DML?  Don't fix it either!  God Forbid they EVER do that!  Better yet...DO MORE/BETTER RESEARCH AND AVOID IT ALL IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!   

Read that with a very heavy dose of sarcasm yet truth as well  ;D

Sorry....been in too many almost identical heated discussions about Trumpeters latest ship kits.  DML/Cyber Hobby's latest ship offerings have been fairly messed up in this department as well.  Maybe they need to fire their research department....
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #101 on: March 04, 2014, 12:06:20 PM »
Maybe DML borrowed one of Trumpeter's "C" Level designers for this kit? Although in their defense, DML has gone back and corrected poor engineering in their armor kits - although they'll all been German tanks. 

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #102 on: May 04, 2014, 03:14:28 AM »
New from Dragon:



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« Reply #103 on: May 04, 2014, 03:44:13 AM »
I often wonder if Ikea was inspired by the Israeli naming process for their equipment when it came to giving everything in the store a unique name ;)
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« Reply #104 on: May 17, 2014, 03:51:43 AM »
Michael Benolkin has provided an in-box review of the DML/Dragon Models 1:700th scale USS San Antonio LPD-17 (kit number 7096) at CyberModeler. 

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« Reply #105 on: May 17, 2014, 03:59:15 AM »
This just in from the Missing-Lynx forums:
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Subject: Dragon 1/72 Atomic Cannon
Date: May 16 2014 at 12:49 PM
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Dragon announced a 1/72 M65 Atomic Cannon at Shizuoka.



Wow!  That is indeed great news for FinsRin :)  Now you can add some very heavy artillery to your project.  Now the question is when will Dragon release this as a 1:35th scale model? 
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« Reply #106 on: May 30, 2014, 08:07:08 AM »
Every time you eat celery,an angel vomits in a gas station bathroom. Tanks rule. I know the load is late,but the voices tell me to pull over and clean the guns.

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« Reply #107 on: May 31, 2014, 04:09:22 AM »
 :o
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« Reply #108 on: May 31, 2014, 10:59:47 AM »
You wouldn't want to stomp the brakes too hard in that thing, would you - spend the next half-hour digging the barrel out of the ground! ;D
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« Reply #109 on: June 14, 2014, 07:46:32 AM »
This just in from the Missing-Lynx forums:
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Date: May 16 2014 at 12:49 PM
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Dragon announced a 1/72 M65 Atomic Cannon at Shizuoka.



Wow!  That is indeed great news for FinsRin :)  Now you can add some very heavy artillery to your project.  Now the question is when will Dragon release this as a 1:35th scale model?


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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #110 on: June 16, 2014, 01:28:28 AM »
The Dragon MBT-70 has now hit the UK shops (Hannnants):



http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/DN3550
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« Reply #111 on: June 24, 2014, 09:50:41 AM »
Coming soon to a retail source near you:

DML/Dragon - Black Label Series - 1:35th scale Saladin Mk.II Armored Car



A pleasant surprise considering the only injection molded 1:35th scale Saladin Mk.II before this was the rather antiquated offering from Tamiya that came with a battery compartment and electric motors.  Of course those with money to spend can always acquire the resin Saladin from Accurate Armour.
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« Reply #112 on: June 24, 2014, 10:12:24 AM »
Interesting. I wonder if somebody will do some 1/35th 1950s/60s/70s British figures to go with it?
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« Reply #113 on: June 24, 2014, 10:54:41 AM »
Interesting. I wonder if somebody will do some 1/35th 1950s/60s/70s British figures to go with it?
That would be nice if they did.  Some squaddies armed with Bren, FAL, and GPMG would go quite well with the Saladin and other vehicles from that era.  Would it be too much to hope for a Wombat as well :)
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« Reply #114 on: June 24, 2014, 11:09:57 AM »
So far the Kpz.70 is the only 'Black Label' kit without a major snafu (or three), let's
see if the Saladin makes it two or if it's another fumble.
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« Reply #115 on: June 24, 2014, 12:46:06 PM »
Interesting. I wonder if somebody will do some 1/35th 1950s/60s/70s British figures to go with it?
That would be nice if they did.  Some squaddies armed with Bren, FAL, and GPMG would go quite well with the Saladin and other vehicles from that era.  Would it be too much to hope for a Wombat as well :)

You'd be hard pressed to have found any squaddies armed with FALs in the British Army.   A new Saladin would be nice, considering the silly prices being asked on EvilBay for the old Tamiya Saladin nowadays.  Hopefully a Saracen won't be too far behind.

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« Reply #116 on: June 24, 2014, 08:30:15 PM »
Interesting. I wonder if somebody will do some 1/35th 1950s/60s/70s British figures to go with it?
That would be nice if they did.  Some squaddies armed with Bren, FAL, and GPMG would go quite well with the Saladin and other vehicles from that era.  Would it be too much to hope for a Wombat as well :)


You'd be hard pressed to have found any squaddies armed with FALs in the British Army.   A new Saladin would be nice, considering the silly prices being asked on EvilBay for the old Tamiya Saladin nowadays.  Hopefully a Saracen won't be too far behind.


He refers, of course to the L1A1 Self-Loading Rifle. ;)
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« Reply #117 on: June 24, 2014, 08:43:52 PM »
If they did a Saracen, I wonder if they'd have the balls to do it in Northern Ireland Troubles trim, with anti-RPG screens etc..? Is it far enough in the past to be "safe" now?



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« Reply #118 on: June 24, 2014, 09:14:34 PM »
Interesting. I wonder if somebody will do some 1/35th 1950s/60s/70s British figures to go with it?
That would be nice if they did.  Some squaddies armed with Bren, FAL, and GPMG would go quite well with the Saladin and other vehicles from that era.  Would it be too much to hope for a Wombat as well :)


You'd be hard pressed to have found any squaddies armed with FALs in the British Army.   A new Saladin would be nice, considering the silly prices being asked on EvilBay for the old Tamiya Saladin nowadays.  Hopefully a Saracen won't be too far behind.


He refers, of course to the L1A1 Self-Loading Rifle. ;)


Ah, but there are quite a few differences between the L1a1 and the FN FAL, the most important of which is that the L1a1 isn't capable of fully-automatic fire.  Externally, the most obvious differences were that they had different flash hiders on the end of the barrel and the L1a1 had a non-reciprocating cocking handle and a different change lever.  Of course the British Army adopted the L1a1, not the FN FAL.

The British Army actually did use a small number of FN FALs but they were only trials weapons.  Interestingly, some of them combined the elements of the L1a1 and the FAL as well.  L1a1 flash hiders with reciprocating cocking handles and vice a versa.  Funnily enough, the one place where you could easily see some of those weapons was on Dr.Who in the 1970s in the hands of UNIT soldiers!  I don't know how the BBC props department got a hold of them but there they were.

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« Reply #119 on: June 24, 2014, 09:19:16 PM »
So far the Kpz.70 is the only 'Black Label' kit without a major snafu (or three), let's
see if the Saladin makes it two or if it's another fumble.

Are there any reviews of the Kpz 70 yet?

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« Reply #120 on: June 24, 2014, 09:20:31 PM »
If they did a Saracen, I wonder if they'd have the balls to do it in Northern Ireland Troubles trim, with anti-RPG screens etc..? Is it far enough in the past to be "safe" now?

More than likely have to be aftermarket products.  I doubt Dragon would want to go there.  AIUI it's still a touchy subject in some quarters.

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« Reply #121 on: June 24, 2014, 10:00:53 PM »
Interesting. I wonder if somebody will do some 1/35th 1950s/60s/70s British figures to go with it?
That would be nice if they did.  Some squaddies armed with Bren, FAL, and GPMG would go quite well with the Saladin and other vehicles from that era.  Would it be too much to hope for a Wombat as well :)
You'd be hard pressed to have found any squaddies armed with FALs in the British Army.

No need to split hairs on what that particular weapon was called as it had many names associated with it.  It was truly an international weapon much like the current crop of Armalite AR-10/AR-15 clones that everyone recognizes today as the M16 or M4 carbine. 

So if you want to pick away at my comments please keep in mind that the rifle system designed by Fabrique Nationale de Herstal (aka FN Herstal or just FN) has many names.  A few of which are listed below:
FN FAL
Sturmgewehr 58
LAR 50.41 and LAR 50.42
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FAL OSW (DSA-58 OSW)
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Armtech L1A1 SAS
Harrington and Richardson T-48
L1A1 SLR

If you use the term FN FAL in any NORMAL conversation you will find that most people will recognize that abbreviation as a reference to the product designed and produced by FN and produced under license by other countries with minor technical changes to the design.  So if I use the term FAL it means I am referring to the FAL whether it is known as a bloody L1A1 or a T-48. 

You seem to be looking for an argument where no argument exists and test the limits of my patience with your deconstructive criticism which might have been better served in a private message to me if you felt that I had made a serious error in my comment.  No, instead you chose to highlight something that is completely out of context.  If it looks like a duck (FN FAL), Quacks like a duck (FN FAL), walks like a duck (FN FAL) then it must be an FN FAL. 


Now returning to the current topic of products from DML/Dragon Models Limited/CyberHobby and your question regarding reviews of the Dragon KPz-70 (MBT-70).

Modeling Madness - Dragon KPz-70 (MBT-70)
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Dragon 'Black Label' MBT-70 (KPz. 70)


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« Reply #122 on: June 24, 2014, 11:02:06 PM »
Swapping the safety catch with one from the AR made the SLR (L1A1) capable of fully auto fire, modifying the existing safety catch by removing the lobe opposite the thumb lugon the catch makes the SLR capable of fully automatic fire.  Inserting a matchstick or a piece of houchie cord under the sear makes the SLR fire fully auto.  Basically the differences are sweet fa.

Also the British army took a very large number of FN FALs back from the Falklands, so many in fact that it was proposed to issue them to the Paras as a replacement for their L1A1s.

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« Reply #123 on: June 25, 2014, 05:54:59 AM »
About time a Saladin was made in plastic.
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« Reply #124 on: June 25, 2014, 08:46:27 AM »
Swapping the safety catch with one from the AR made the SLR (L1A1) capable of fully auto fire, modifying the existing safety catch by removing the lobe opposite the thumb lugon the catch makes the SLR capable of fully automatic fire.  Inserting a matchstick or a piece of houchie cord under the sear makes the SLR fire fully auto.  Basically the differences are sweet fa.

Little bit more than that.  Doing anything but the first one renders the interlock between the bolt carrier and the sear (which makes the hammer work properly) inoperative and that means it is possible for a slam-fire to occur (the round fires before the cartridge is seated properly and the bolt carrier and breach block properly locked into position).  Then there is the problem with the light-weight barrel - you fire on full auto too long and the barrel will warp.  The FN FAL had a heavier barrel (which I forgot to mention) than the L1a1, with thicker walls.

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Also the British army took a very large number of FN FALs back from the Falklands, so many in fact that it was proposed to issue them to the Paras as a replacement for their L1A1s.

However, they didn't.  They destroyed most of them, in situ (by burning and crushing) before disposing of them at sea.  I once had a long conversation with a British RAOC corporal who'd have the unenviable task of doing it.  I doubt there would have been any real advantage in issuing them, they were nearly uncontrollable on full auto anyway.

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« Reply #125 on: June 25, 2014, 09:03:54 AM »
Now returning to the current topic of products from DML/Dragon Models Limited/CyberHobby and your question regarding reviews of the Dragon KPz-70 (MBT-70).

Modeling Madness - Dragon KPz-70 (MBT-70)
Panzer-Modell.de - Dragon KPz-70

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Dragon 'Black Label' MBT-70 (KPz. 70)


Thanks, I'll look at those and see if it's worth purchasing.

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« Reply #126 on: June 25, 2014, 10:23:35 PM »
I'd love to whif this kit as a Canadian Armoured Corps, following the same career path as the Leopard. So we'd end up with a well worn MBT-70 with MEXAS armour and slats and mine plow somewhere in Panjwai.

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« Reply #127 on: June 25, 2014, 10:56:55 PM »
I'd love to whif this kit as a Canadian Armoured Corps, following the same career path as the Leopard. So we'd end up with a well worn MBT-70 with MEXAS armour and slats and mine plow somewhere in Panjwai.

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #128 on: June 26, 2014, 05:49:01 AM »
I'm very happy to see the Saladin and I hope it's accurate but $68 USD is painful. Might have to wait for sale to buy it.

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #129 on: June 26, 2014, 03:52:15 PM »
i picked up one of the KPz.70 kits, very nice indeed and not too scary in price for a new tool kit too, heres hoping the MBT.70 is not too far behind it :)

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #130 on: June 27, 2014, 04:50:55 AM »
Re the SLR, wasn't it also converted to imperial measurements from metric, and although some parts were interchangeable, quite a lot wern't?
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #131 on: June 27, 2014, 11:00:53 AM »
Re the SLR, wasn't it also converted to imperial measurements from metric, and although some parts were interchangeable, quite a lot weren't?

That's a "yes".
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #132 on: June 27, 2014, 07:10:43 PM »
Re the SLR, wasn't it also converted to imperial measurements from metric, and although some parts were interchangeable, quite a lot wern't?

As was the L2A1 AR (Automatic Rifle) which also had the auto safety and heavy barrel.  Always thought an AR with a conventional fore stock would have been a good thing.  It was a mean looking weapon but my experience of a triple feed and jam on the range did temper my view of them.  I often carried one as No.2 on the gun in my Uni Regiment days, the idea being that in the event of a major stoppage on the M-60 the No.1 and Section 2IC would fix the gun and I would provide suppressive fire with the AR.

Is this getting to the point that its worth splitting off into a separate topic on FN FALs and derivatives?
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #133 on: June 27, 2014, 07:15:38 PM »
Probably.
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #134 on: June 28, 2014, 03:28:11 AM »
Hmm…I wonder…Saladin with 30mm RARDEN cannon.
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« Reply #135 on: June 28, 2014, 03:38:09 AM »
Hmm…I wonder…Saladin with 30mm RARDEN cannon.
A kit bash with the Scorpion or the Scimitar would get you a nice turret upgrade :)
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #136 on: August 03, 2014, 05:15:26 AM »
This just in at Hannants:



http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/DN6789

Wonder what's wrong with this one................... ::)
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #137 on: August 03, 2014, 11:09:53 AM »
If the boxtop picture is anything to go by, it looks a bit stunted compared to the Commander in the hatch...

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« Reply #138 on: August 03, 2014, 11:15:32 AM »
It looks like a M6 to me so I am happy:



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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #139 on: August 07, 2014, 08:58:16 PM »
Hobby Search has posted some infos on Dragon's upcoming M103A2! LINK!

Not sure whether the machine-translated blurb says anything about fixing some of the more obvious mistakes in the M103A1 kit or whether they just catered for the differences between versions.
Then again, fixing the errors would probably entail completely new hull upper and lower halves.

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #140 on: August 08, 2014, 05:26:19 AM »
Hobby Search has posted some infos on Dragon's upcoming M103A2! LINK!

Not sure whether the machine-translated blurb says anything about fixing some of the more obvious mistakes in the M103A1 kit or whether they just catered for the differences between versions.
Then again, fixing the errors would probably entail completely new hull upper and lower halves.
Thanks for sharing the information.  This version of the M103 is my favorite.  Monster Tank!  Now it just needs some tweeks from the M60A3 like the top-loading air cleaners and a thermal wrap around the gun tube plus a laser range finder :)
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #141 on: December 20, 2014, 03:17:35 AM »
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« Reply #142 on: December 20, 2014, 05:47:58 AM »
I wonder if they'll do the ARV version of the Conqueror ??  very different & saw longer service than the gun-tank.

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« Reply #143 on: December 20, 2014, 06:52:19 AM »
Black Label? :shudder: If its anything like the KpZ 70, stay away (unless you see it for $25)

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #144 on: December 20, 2014, 09:23:43 AM »
Isn't Bronco or one of the other mainland Chinese companies doing a Conqueror?  I fear this one by Dragon will be as bad as the M103.

What was wrong with the KpZ70?  I haven't read any reviews so I am assuming they effed it up?

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« Reply #145 on: December 20, 2014, 02:33:33 PM »
I've read a build-review of their K.Pz-70 kit (on ML or Armorama).  From memory it can't be built as a U.S. MBT-70 - only a German K.Pz-70 version.

Some question on the size of the rear infantry-telephone box, empty area under the turret's open remote-AA gun turret & wrong suspension bump-stops (kit represents one German prototype but bump-stops from the 2nd German prototype) -- otherwise the (respected) reviewer says it's OK.

It certainly sounds better than any of the other Black Horrors which have major issues rendering them good Whif-fodder not accurate representations of their type.

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #146 on: December 20, 2014, 10:47:12 PM »
I'm actually building the KpZ 70, not doing an in-box review. Its circa 1992 DML level of detail. I can't begin to comment on accuracy as I know zilch about the subject. I'm speaking from a model building perspective that this is a poorly engineered kit.

I heard that Black Label is actually a different model company, who gets DML to take care of instructions, boxing, distribution etc. But that the black label designers are separate from DML.

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« Reply #147 on: December 21, 2014, 04:39:57 AM »
I always considered DML kits to be circa 1980 Tamiya quality in engineering, only thier very latest German WW2 subjects have come anywhere near Tamiya for fit.

Having said that I'm waiting for several of DMLs Black Label kits to hit the 2nd-hand market so that I can get them for a fairly reasonable price.

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #148 on: December 30, 2014, 09:12:59 AM »
Dragon have just released their 1/35 scale Alvis Saladin:



Considering the problems with the other "Black Label" products, I have no idea as to it's accurary beyond that the box picture looks rather nice and it seems to have got the right number of wheels.   Click on the picture for the announcement on Dragon Models USA site.

Pity it's so expensive, though.   :banghead:

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« Reply #149 on: January 22, 2015, 09:30:35 AM »
At CyberModeler: DML/Dragon Models /Black Label/Smart Kit 1:35th scale M103A2 Heavy Tank (kit number 3549)

Click on html or image to see the review at CyberModeler. 

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #150 on: January 29, 2015, 02:05:38 AM »
In-box review of the Saladin by Cookie Sewell on HyperScale: LINK!

Verdict:
Quote from: Cookie Sewell
Overall this is a nicely done kit, but a few more details would have been appreciated for the price.

Can't help but wish this one would've been done by Hobby Boss or Trumpeter. Same level of detail at a better price.  >:D
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« Reply #151 on: January 29, 2015, 02:56:12 AM »
wow... and I guess various newly tooled HEMTT to follow as well...




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« Reply #152 on: January 29, 2015, 07:06:16 AM »
wow... and I guess various newly tooled HEMTT to follow as well...
That HEMTT would be perfect replacement tractor unit for the Atomic Cannon :)
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #153 on: January 29, 2015, 08:16:27 AM »
The Patriot system shown side-by-side with a Scud system would be a good "Friend & Foe" display. :)
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #154 on: January 29, 2015, 08:43:50 AM »
Mod that Patriot trailer into a mobile cruise missile launcher along the lines of the BGM-109.  Guess I have to wait for a sale (DEEEEEEEEP discount) to pick one up.

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« Reply #155 on: January 29, 2015, 12:41:12 PM »
wow... and I guess various newly tooled HEMTT to follow as well...
That HEMTT would be perfect replacement tractor unit for the Atomic Cannon :)

Ummm, yeah OK.

Buuttt, the gun itself makes zero sense attached to a 'new' tractor.  :icon_fsm:

By the time you got the damned thing set up, you'd be taken out by attack aircraft ...

unless, yer thinking about a scenario where artillery still rules the battlefield;)
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #156 on: January 29, 2015, 05:29:07 PM »
The Patriot system shown side-by-side with a Scud system would be a good "Friend & Foe" display. :)

Good idea :)
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #157 on: March 02, 2015, 01:16:32 PM »
Brett Green has provided an in-the box kit review of the Home > Reviews > Modern > Dragon Black Label Kit No. 3554 - British Armoured Car Saladin Mk.2 and a quick build review of the same kit Home > Gallery > Modern > Dragon Black Label Kit No. 3554 - British Armoured Car Saladin Mk.2 at Missing-Lynx. 


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About time a new Saladin was offered in 1:35th scale.  I still have one of the very old and very toy like Tamiya Saladin kits that was intended to be motorized.  Hopefully DML/Dragon got this one right as it seems some of the other Black Label kits are coming up short of customer expectations. 

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #158 on: May 16, 2015, 06:02:01 AM »
Now available:

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #159 on: May 17, 2015, 12:23:03 AM »
I wonder if we will see a Centurion, Saracen, FV432, or even the later Chieftain and CRV(T) FOV?

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« Reply #160 on: May 18, 2015, 01:46:02 AM »
I think they've started running out of different micro-variants of WW2 armour, so I'm guessing they're moving into the post-war-40's & 1950's now.

They'll start by putting out a range of basic hulls, then they'll run through every minor variant & experimental vehicle ever conceived untl they run out of them, after which they'll move on to the 60's & 70's, & repeat.
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« Reply #161 on: May 19, 2015, 12:08:22 AM »
Scalemodels.ru also has a few pics of an assembled Conqueror. LINK!

The turret sides would lend themselves well to a Chieftain-style Stillbrew armor update.
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« Reply #162 on: May 19, 2015, 08:41:10 AM »
I wonder what the inaccuracies will turn out to be?  I think they could have chosen a better colour for the plastic tracks.  ;)

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« Reply #163 on: May 19, 2015, 11:11:46 PM »
Scalemodels.ru also has a few pics of an assembled Conqueror. LINK!

The turret sides would lend themselves well to a Chieftain-style Stillbrew armor update.


Now you have me thinking, perhaps instead of issuing Conquerors to the SHQs of
Scalemodels.ru also has a few pics of an assembled Conqueror. LINK!

The turret sides would lend themselves well to a Chieftain-style Stillbrew armor update.


Now you have me thinking.  Perhaps instead of being a supplement to the Centurion within the armoured regiments (mainly those in the BAOR wasn't it?), they were instead concentrated in independent tank brigades and as such built in much greater  numbers, with a number of major marks and rebuilds, greatly improving performance extending service life.  The independent tank brigades, logically, would be RTR, which could perhaps return to their pre-war structure of a single large regiment with multiple battalions, while the remaining armoured regiments could have evolved into medium, cavalry type, units and perhaps replaced their Cents with a co-developed Leopard, leaving the Chieftain to be developed specifically as a Conqueror replacement. 

Greater numbers in UK service means the type would be more likely to have been exported, i.e. Israel

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« Reply #164 on: July 10, 2015, 07:10:34 PM »
I generally do not review Cybermodeler's list of future releases but I did notice this time that DML will be re-releasing in August the following 1/72 kits:

Ar 234B Nachtigall (re-issue)
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #165 on: December 06, 2015, 06:47:54 AM »
Another rare one - 1/35 T54E1 with Oscillating Turret:



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« Reply #166 on: December 06, 2015, 09:24:21 AM »
Liking the idea of placing the T54E1 turret on the M60 hull for a quick and simple kit bash. 
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« Reply #167 on: December 08, 2015, 12:56:07 AM »
 Although of only passing interest to most, I gather that Dragon has released an M 103 in 1/72.

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« Reply #168 on: December 08, 2015, 10:55:45 AM »
Hoping the Conqueror follows, not that I mind 1/35, its just 1/72 costs less and takes up less space while still looking good.

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« Reply #169 on: December 08, 2015, 10:59:46 AM »
I'm really liking that T54E1! I can't find the link now but I saw that Dragon is also bringing out an M60 "slick" as well. I've always really liked both tanks and I'm looking forward to seeing them on the market.

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« Reply #170 on: December 08, 2015, 05:30:03 PM »
Yay for the T54E1!  :icon_beer: Will have to have one of those!

Although of only passing interest to most, I gather that Dragon has released an M 103 in 1/72.


I think it might have generated more interest hadn't Dragon half-assed it again and made it both terribly detailed and hideously expensive.  :-X Here are some pics of the kit's contents: LINK!
Really hope some other manfuacturer is going to do a proper plastic kit of the M103.
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« Reply #171 on: December 16, 2015, 02:26:22 AM »
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« Reply #172 on: December 16, 2015, 02:32:26 AM »
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« Reply #173 on: December 26, 2015, 04:47:17 AM »
Woohoo!!!

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« Reply #174 on: December 26, 2015, 05:04:16 AM »
Woohoo!!!



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« Reply #176 on: December 26, 2015, 01:25:02 PM »
AT-AT MEDEVAC/CASEVAC

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« Reply #177 on: December 27, 2015, 03:32:18 AM »
AT-AT Imperial Grape Stompers?

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #178 on: December 27, 2015, 03:36:27 AM »
Heavy Weapon version with rear replaced with something like a honking big crew served cannon - maybe something such as this:



But given a Scifi look and with Stormtroopers manning it.
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #179 on: December 28, 2015, 07:49:14 PM »
Heavy Weapon version with rear replaced with something like a honking big crew served cannon - maybe something such as this:



But given a Scifi look and with Stormtroopers manning it.

it would have to squat or kneel to fire that, unless it was mounted underneath, then it could simply cock its leg :)

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #180 on: December 28, 2015, 08:20:50 PM »
Two observation.

1. Frikken' humongous:





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2. Frikken' expensive: $860 USD. Shipping and SWMBO bribe is probably another $800.
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #181 on: December 29, 2015, 03:56:01 AM »
A well hung AT-AT... :-[
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #182 on: December 30, 2015, 03:30:30 AM »
Looking at the details of an AT-AT, I think a large crew served gun as suggested would work well:



I wonder how detailed the kit will be?
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #183 on: December 30, 2015, 05:31:48 AM »
Where are the bathrooms? Sure, they can go in their suits, or drop trou and go over the side (might explain the weathering) but it just doesn't seem very Imperial.

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #184 on: January 25, 2016, 02:39:11 AM »
Another:




I am tempted to do something like this but to replace the 88m with a 128mm gun...or perhaps a SAM...
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« Reply #185 on: January 25, 2016, 08:51:50 AM »
Perhaps as a TEL for a Wasserfall SAM?  It did have storable propellant.

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #186 on: January 25, 2016, 10:42:13 AM »
Two observation.

1. Frikken' humongous:





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2. Frikken' expensive: $860 USD. Shipping and SWMBO bribe is probably another $800.


Imagine where we would be if the Germans hadn't wasted so much time and effort on these kinds of things.

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #187 on: January 28, 2016, 03:19:39 AM »
Looking at the details of an AT-AT, I think a large crew served gun as suggested would work well:

Kenner employees mocked up an AT-AT-mounted ion cannon toy - dubbed the AT-IC - as part of a new line they pitched to Lucasfilm in the late 80s. It went nowhere (no production for the toy but the AT-IC did feature in some stories) but it's great whif fuel! I bet someone will do it once the kit is released.
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #188 on: March 07, 2016, 03:22:12 AM »
New 1/35 T-95 coming:



Plus 1/35 AT-ST and 1/35 Snow Speeder:



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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #189 on: March 07, 2016, 04:29:21 AM »
Any idea what's different with this version of the T95 versus the older one? I know the original release was widely criticized for some dimensional errors, so maybe this is corrected.

Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #190 on: March 07, 2016, 05:39:12 AM »
Any idea what's different with this version of the T95 versus the older one? I know the original release was widely criticized for some dimensional errors, so maybe this is corrected.

It looks like the main gun is different, maybe it is out of World of Tanks?

That Snowspeeder and AT-ST look sweet.

Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #191 on: March 08, 2016, 12:11:06 AM »
It looks like the main gun is different, maybe it is out of World of Tanks?
Oh yeah, I just caught that! Since I'm not a WoT player and I wasn't aware of plans to fit other guns to the T28/T95, I wonder what gun this is supposed to be.

I'm still hoping for a T14 and T23E3 but this is still pretty cool.

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« Reply #192 on: March 08, 2016, 01:59:37 AM »
I didn't think it was a real tank until I went looking on line, I found photos of the outside track assemble removed all in one.  How was power transferred to it when it was mounted to the tank though, the photos don't really show how it's done.

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #193 on: March 08, 2016, 02:45:29 AM »
I didn't think it was a real tank until I went looking on line, I found photos of the outside track assemble removed all in one.  How was power transferred to it when it was mounted to the tank though, the photos don't really show how it's done.

 I don't think the outer set of tracks were powered - I remember them being referred to as "dumb units".

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #194 on: March 08, 2016, 03:08:05 AM »
I wonder what gun this is supposed to be.
From what I could find in the Hunnicutt book on heavy tanks this version appears to be a "paper panzer" with a proposed 155mm gun that was under development for use on a heavy tank.
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #195 on: March 08, 2016, 03:49:25 AM »
I didn't think it was a real tank until I went looking on line, I found photos of the outside track assemble removed all in one.  How was power transferred to it when it was mounted to the tank though, the photos don't really show how it's done.

 I don't think the outer set of tracks were powered - I remember them being referred to as "dumb units".

Interesting, wasn't there a possibility of the inner track assembly getting "high-centered" if the outer track assemble rolled over something high enough to prevent the inner tracks getting traction ?

Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #196 on: March 08, 2016, 07:31:53 AM »
I wonder what gun this is supposed to be.
From what I could find in the Hunnicutt book on heavy tanks this version appears to be a "paper panzer" with a proposed 155mm gun that was under development for use on a heavy tank.
Thanks for the information, Jeffry! I'd wondered if maybe it was a 155mm but it's hard to gauge based on a photo of a scale model.

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #197 on: March 08, 2016, 11:23:38 AM »
I wonder what gun this is supposed to be.
From what I could find in the Hunnicutt book on heavy tanks this version appears to be a "paper panzer" with a proposed 155mm gun that was under development for use on a heavy tank.
Thanks for the information, Jeffry! I'd wondered if maybe it was a 155mm but it's hard to gauge based on a photo of a scale model.
Glad to help.  I was curious too since the gun tube was too short and too thick to pass for the 105mm gun of the T28 it had me wondering too.  The muzzle brake is quite strange looking too. 





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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #198 on: March 08, 2016, 01:16:25 PM »
'Muzzle brake' that'd be.  ;)  :D
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #199 on: March 12, 2016, 04:58:38 AM »

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #200 on: May 27, 2016, 02:43:35 AM »
New ones:



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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #201 on: July 23, 2016, 05:39:42 AM »
From the Dragon site on the Egyptian Sherman/AMX-13.

http://www.dragonusaonline.com/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=DRA3570
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #202 on: September 03, 2016, 04:35:17 AM »
Out now I believe:



The turret certainly has possibilities...
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #203 on: September 29, 2016, 06:22:05 AM »
Work in progress ::

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #204 on: October 01, 2016, 09:47:26 AM »
With all the other experimental releases, can we get a US T-92 light tank?  it's a unique and attractive design.

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #205 on: October 01, 2016, 10:16:51 PM »
I wonder how much World of Tanks has had on model makers. I'm not complaining, I like all these experimental. Maybe someone will do the French line.
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #206 on: October 01, 2016, 11:22:24 PM »
Armour kits sales are up..way up, and with new to the hobby types too. Well, at least where I work.
Italeri has a World of Tanks (And Warships) licence, and one of the North American distributors was packaging in-game bonus coupons in Tamiya kits for a while. Overall, WoT seems to be having a positive effect on the hobby.


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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #207 on: October 02, 2016, 02:20:30 AM »
<...> Overall, WoT seems to be having a positive effect on the hobby.

 :o But... but... it's universally accepted "death of the hobby" lore that computer games are directly to blame for said death.




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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #208 on: October 02, 2016, 03:34:06 AM »
With all the other experimental releases, can we get a US T-92 light tank?  it's a unique and attractive design.

I have actually proposed that to Commander models.
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #209 on: October 02, 2016, 06:49:31 AM »
With all the other experimental releases, can we get a US T-92 light tank?  it's a unique and attractive design.

I have actually proposed that to Commander models.
I don't normally purchase 1/35 tanks, I would make an exception for that.  It's been poorly served, a very old Nitto kit and an even older ITC one from the 1950s are the only efforts I know of.

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #210 on: December 09, 2016, 01:51:22 AM »
Dragon Models has announced another IDF M3 halftrack variant, this time the Nord SS-11 Anti-Tank Missile Carrier.  The kit will include many new tooled parts to recreate this vehicle from the Six Day war, including firewall between cab and launcher, the launcher with missiles, and many more.

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #211 on: December 10, 2016, 02:49:38 AM »
I am sure I have a resin conversion for that one around here somewhere...
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #212 on: December 10, 2016, 02:57:08 AM »
Looking at it, one is tempted to also do a Sd.Kfz. 251 armed with a bunch of X-7 Rotkäppchen missiles mounted in a similar way
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« Reply #213 on: January 22, 2017, 05:28:41 AM »
I can let this one out now - M752 Lance Missile Launcher on new tool  hull


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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #214 on: January 22, 2017, 05:55:49 AM »
I can let this one out now - M752 Lance Missile Launcher on new tool  hull




Hmmm...me thinks you and I need to have a little chat!  Only in September just gone I purchased one of the following:



Did you previously know about this announced kit?  Speak now comrade or it will only get worse for you!   :icon_punal:
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« Reply #215 on: January 22, 2017, 09:26:41 AM »
Ah man, sorry. I knew Ron was doing the boxart, but that doesn't always predict when a kit (if a kit) will be announced.

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« Reply #216 on: January 22, 2017, 03:29:34 PM »
A likely story comrade!  I thinks a stint in the BTS Gulag might help you repent your ways.  Comrade Acree will show you to your bunk (it's the one next to the pile of Unicraft and Starfix kits):

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« Reply #217 on: January 22, 2017, 03:48:50 PM »
Mmmm.... I wonder if Tilly and Tracked Rapier will follow?

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #218 on: February 09, 2017, 02:52:22 AM »
1/35 IDF Anti-Aircraft M3 Halftrack coming:

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« Reply #219 on: February 11, 2017, 05:40:58 AM »
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« Reply #220 on: August 19, 2017, 05:28:14 AM »
Couple of new ones:


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« Reply #221 on: August 21, 2017, 12:00:51 AM »
I always thought the "T" stood for Theatre, not Terminal. Memory is going!


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« Reply #222 on: August 21, 2017, 01:57:40 AM »
@Graeme/Gingie. 

Your memory is not going.  M1120 THAAD was known as 'Theatre High Altitude Air Defense' before the name was changed to 'Terminal High Altitude Air Defense.' 

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« Reply #223 on: August 26, 2017, 05:37:26 AM »
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« Reply #224 on: September 09, 2017, 05:18:55 AM »

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #225 on: September 09, 2017, 05:21:31 AM »
Mmmm.... I wonder if Tilly and Tracked Rapier will follow?

They can't as I haven't yet acquired a highly expensive resin version of either... ::)
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« Reply #226 on: September 09, 2017, 05:41:51 AM »
Actually further research indicates that Hobbyfan plan to releases a 1/35 Tracked Rapier so you may have hope yet...
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« Reply #227 on: September 30, 2017, 04:34:30 AM »

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #232 on: March 11, 2018, 11:20:51 AM »
I definitely want that M48A5! I just hope it isn’t $70+ USD.  :icon_crap:

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« Reply #233 on: April 13, 2018, 01:43:20 AM »
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #237 on: June 23, 2018, 05:42:24 AM »
Well that certainly takes some of the joy out of owning the HobbyFan Lance LZL kit.  :(
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #238 on: June 23, 2018, 05:51:55 AM »
Well that certainly takes some of the joy out of owning the HobbyFan Lance LZL kit.  :(

Tell me about it... :(
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #239 on: June 24, 2018, 01:05:50 PM »


These ships make me want to cry. 

They were offered to Australia as replacement for the three Perth Class DDG (CFA class) for stuff all, needed none of the mods required by the Adelaide Class FFGs to remain capability and were rejected as the buy would have required the retirement of the oldest pair of Adelaides, as well as the DDGs for manning reasons.  Instead the DDGs were retired without immediate replacement and the FFGUP required to cover the gap until new DDGs could be acquired was so expensive and so late that two FFGs were dropped from the program and now the remaining four FFGs are being replaced by the three DDG replacements, a total of nine ships replaced by three.  To cover this short fall the ANZAC class patrol frigates have had to be upgraded into defacto FFGs and their replacement has had to be brought forward.  At the same time the cheap patrol boats, bought because the corvettes planned were too expensive in the light of the increased costs of the major combatant upgrades, have suffered major structural and sustainment issues requiring their early replacement with OPVs. 

I can't help but wonder if it would have been cheaper to acquire the Kidds to replace the DDGs and first pair of FFGs (four for five hulls rather than three for nine).  The AWD program continue as is to replace the remaining four FFGs, which wouldn't need major upgrades because the Kidds covered the requirement for SM-2 (four for three, still not bad and the money saved could even have bought the originally planned fourth hull), while that ANZAC ASMD upgrade could scaled back as there would have been no shortage in major combatant numbers or capabilities .  Concurrently the money saved at this point could have been rolled over into building the planned corvettes instead of the useless patrol boats, which due to being steel instead of aluminium foil construction, wouldn't have needed early replacement. (possibly with another three batch II ships to replace the Kidds).

At this point, there not having been a ship building black hole betrween the ANZACs, corvettes and AWDs, the Australian shipbuilding industry would have been better placed to build the LHDs locally and follow them with two or three new tankers, as well as the now defered replacement heavy landing craft/ships, hydrographic ships and MCMVs. A second batch of three or four AWDs could be ordered to replace the now aging Kidds and planning begin for a new class of frigates to replace the ANZACs.  Manning would not be an issue because the massive down sizing that occured in the RAN when it hit block obsolescence in the late 90s early 2000s would not have occured and the personnel number would not have had to be reduced so severely (in a false, very shory term, economy messure that had to be addressed only a couple years later by massive and expensive retention bonuses).

Sorry for the rant but those ships are the bleedingly obvious example of how stupid and wasteful Australias governments of the 90s and 2000s were and how we are now having to fork out much more tax payers money to rebuild the industry we built in the 80s and get back to the planned fleet structure we knew we needed then and still need now.  The dumb thing is, during the time of false economy Australia was in the middle of the biggest economic boom in its history,  a boom that virtually killed local manufacturing and engineering due to the distortion of our currency by an unusual period of commodity exports and no plan to protect affected industries.  just following the original plan of the 80s would have prevented a lot of the damage and been highly affordable.


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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #240 on: September 23, 2018, 08:06:11 AM »
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #241 on: September 30, 2018, 10:39:50 AM »
Guess who purchased an expensive Resin Accirate Armour kit a few years ago...

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #242 on: September 30, 2018, 10:47:58 AM »
It's a Black Label kit, so you know it's going to have major issues. I think your resin kit's value is safe.

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #243 on: October 30, 2018, 02:34:28 AM »
1/35 Priest coming:

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