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Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« on: October 28, 2017, 09:15:56 PM »
New kid on the block.  :P
By the mid 1930's the Danish Navy reconnaissance/observation/light bomber Heinkel He 8 floatplane had become obsolete. To replace it the Navy looked around for a suitable seaplane but found none. It was then proposed to use the Heinkel He 70 in a navalized version. The alternative would be upgrading the He 8 planes or an all new own floatplane design; which would have been a single engine beast the size of a Bristol Blenheim on floats! Nothing came of any proposal and by 1940 it was decided to buy four Heinkel He 114 as a stopgap measure till funds would be available for a major renewal of Navy aircraft. Then came 9. April 1940 - Denmark occupied by Germany and an end to naval aviation for eight years.

The Heinkel He 70 Floatplane / HM-III would be fitted with a Hawker Siddeley Tiger IX engine and would also take on the role of bomber-/torpedobomber.
To make stuff happen the old Matchbox/Revell Heinkel He 70/170 kit was used fitted with the engine and floats of the FROG Blackburn Shark. Camo would be the 1938 experimental Danish camo of khaki/light olive/light blue grey. Wheels would be kept for possible landbased operations.
Here she is





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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2017, 09:55:19 PM »
 :smiley:

Nice!  Very nice!

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2017, 12:22:25 AM »
Not really my favorite kind of aeroplane ... but that camo looks good  :-*

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2017, 01:03:28 AM »
Damn fine entrance.  I was only thinking about a floatplane He70 the other day.  Hope you're not reading my mind...you never know what you might stumble across in there.
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2017, 05:13:13 AM »
He 70 has that definite "Indiana Jones" vibe (well, it is a German aircraft from the correct period), so this is a wonderful take on the concept! :-*

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2017, 05:26:11 AM »
Thanks for the kind words.  :smiley:
@GTX admin: Then I must be able to mindread into the future as the model was completed some years back but I only discovered the site a short while ago.  :o

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2017, 06:17:45 AM »
Here's something all out of the wild blue yonder!
During summer I was lucky to get my hands on four boxes of old model kits; among them a Pioneer2 Focke Wulf Ta-154 missing parts which didn't appeal to me. Then I decided to use some of the kits to practice building skills upon. Then this happened -
East Germany 1945: in the wake of Nazi defeat colonel Sergej Korolev had been sent from his drawing board in Kazan to Germany to see if anything worthwhile to the advancement of the Soviet State could be scooped up; notably the V-2 programme.
Arriving at an abandoned Luftwaffe base on the way towards Peenemünde he stumbled across the remains of a Focke Wulf Ta-154. It lacked the canopy and most of the interiors. Korolev wanted to know what the aircraft was all about and had his workers and some impressed Germans clean up the wreck.
Looking around the wreckage littering the place he stumbled upon a Messerschmitt Me-163. It being a wreck itself and known by now to the Soviets Korolev decided to borrow parts of it to rebuild the Ta-154.
Within a few days Korolev had his single seater Ta-154 airworthy. It lacked the radar which Korolev now was in the know of and had been ripped of its cannons but at least it could be tested in its new single seat configuration.



Engines had been fixed and tested



and the Ta-154 singleseater was ready for take-off



The aircraft was successfully testflown and then the Soviet Airforce commission had to be notified. The aircraft was flown off to some airbase within the Soviet Union. Korolev would go on his business in Peenemünde and return to the Rodina with the German rocket scientist's and engineers and ultimately head the Soviet Space Program. At times he would tell his Little Eagles - the Soviet Cosmonauts - of his experiences of rebuilding the Ta-154 to airworthy condition. Nobody knew what had become of the aircraft as the Jet-age had set in and nobody gave a damn of old Nazi piston aircraft; except a Soviet rocket engineer.
Years later Yuri Gagarin discovered the Ta-154 single seater in storage on an airbase and he wanted to show the aircraft to Korolev. Unfortunately Korolev died before he could see the aircraft one last time. With the death of Gagarin two years later the single seater Ta-154 once again lapsed into obscurity.  ;)

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2017, 07:39:35 AM »
Great use of a so-so kit and includes two of my favourite Russians: Gagarin and Korolev.   :D
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2017, 08:56:20 AM »
Awesome models! The He 70 looks fantastic. Is the Ta 154 based on the old PM models kit?

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2017, 11:56:32 AM »
Congratulations :smiley:

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2017, 11:59:36 AM »
He 70 has that definite "Indiana Jones" vibe (well, it is a German aircraft from the correct period), so this is a wonderful take on the concept! :-*

 x2 on  definite "Indiana Jones" vibe.  Helped much by color scheme.

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2017, 02:13:42 PM »
The  He 70 Floatplane / HM-III reminded me of a British WWII bomber... just remembered the name: The Vickers Wellesley:


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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2017, 09:30:33 PM »
Thanks guys.  :D
I don't know if the Ta-154 is based on the PM kit or its the other way round. Whichever its a kit demanding lots of sanding and dryfitting and  then more sanding. And ever so basic... though fine for a what-if.  ;D
@Frank3k: one day I do have to get a Wellesley.  ;)

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2017, 09:47:21 PM »
its a kit demanding lots of sanding and dryfitting and  then more sanding
So: double congratulations, as your final result is just perfect! :-*

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2017, 10:09:49 PM »
The Ta154 almost looks like a pressurised high altitude version.
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2017, 11:03:19 PM »
Cheers guys  :D
@GTX admin: thanks; couldn't get my mind on what it reminded me of. The Korolev touch upon the Ta-154!  :icon_meditation:

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2017, 11:32:24 PM »
On the workbench - old FROG EE Lightning kitbash with as old Matchbox Viggen.  ;D
Wings and canards mounted; Matchbox plastic is somewhat brittle though FROGs fine to work. The rest is plastic card, flash (always remember to save flash), a little putty and lots of glue.


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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2017, 12:33:08 AM »
Looking forward to see the final result in plastic since we had the same idea (unfortunately I am not a modeller). ;)

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2017, 12:55:55 AM »
This Lightning/Viggen mix is VERY interesting! Maybe impossible to fly due to centering issues but this is great fun! :-*

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2017, 03:29:33 AM »
Wow is that one heck of an introduction and I don't think I've ever seen a Danish scheme rendered better!

Putting the He-70 up on floats was truly inspired!

Welcome to BtS, Arctic Warrior. It looks like you'll fit in nicely and I look forward to seeing more of your work.

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2017, 04:49:12 AM »
Thanks for the warm welcome.  :smiley:
There is more insanity lurking to get into the light. Have just restocked with model kits so shit may happen.
I think I may have a home here for my dark side of modelbuilding; the "real" models going onto Airfix Tribute Forum.  ;D
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2017, 05:25:48 AM »
Lightning-Viggen combo is right on.  :smiley:
Never woulda thought of it.

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2017, 10:26:23 PM »
JoseFern cheers! Was wondering where to fit the refuelling probe  :smiley:

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2017, 06:10:07 AM »
Your He 70/HM III floatplane is wonderful  :smiley: Way back when, I did a profile of the same concept.
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2017, 05:14:32 AM »
Welcome AW, first class intro, loving all three but really looking forward to the Liggen/Vightning.  Makes me think of the U.K. Not
buying F4s but getting into bed with the Swedes and producing your little gem.

Nice work!
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2017, 04:19:50 PM »
Cheers.  :D
My idea was that EE faced with an upgrade would turn to Saab for help in making the Lightning into a "real" delta wing and of course the Swedes costefficeint as any Scandinavian would suggest using Viggen parts including canards if only to get done in time to stun the opposition and used tried and working parts.
Wings and canards on putty applied as is the bang-seat and awaiting topside darkgreen



Its not visible in the shot but I grafted out a cannon-trench on the starbord side of the nose. Will be made visible when paintings done.

Undersides having had a go of Pollyscale flat aluminium (did I spell this correct Brian?)  ;D



I've begun making masurements for the main gear legs; don't know if I'll use Viggen or Lightning parts or some leftover Phantom ones. :icon_meditation:

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2017, 01:24:16 AM »
Congratulations: the new wing fits like perfectly the fuselage, which amount of hard work provided this result?

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2017, 12:33:08 PM »
Quite interesting project!
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2017, 09:46:14 PM »
Congratulations: the new wing fits like perfectly the fuselage, which amount of hard work provided this result?

Getting out the drills and razorsaw is just fun.
Took about two days work of getting strips of styrene aligned with the upperwing. Scored to size by use of a metal ruler and hobby-knife; then filling the gaps with bits of flash and more strips of styrene to make a strong bond and finally a go of putty to fill in small gaps and flatten the surface.
Wings undersides were pretty much the same deal though easier as this part is wider than the top wing-parts. I had to fit the inner main gear doors which took a major part of wing lenght only having to saw/cut them to size at the fuselage side to make the wing fit.
Really not hard work more of finding the right thickness of styrene and then start cutting and glueing parts in place.
Canards were even easier.
The real deal was drilling holes for the location of the wing pegs to enter the fuselage and then cut away plastic to make a decent fit.

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2017, 02:10:10 AM »
Your work is more than "decent", it is GREAT! :smiley:

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2017, 02:34:06 AM »
Cheers Tophe; its main ingredient is patience - loads of it. Of course at times I just don't have the mojo for it and it becomes somewhat sloppy.. we can't be on top all of the time!  ;)

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2017, 01:16:17 AM »
Nice work on all of it - Like the Heinkel best so far, but I expect the Lighggen( ;) ) will be smashing.

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2017, 09:12:20 AM »
Fan-freakin'-tastic!  >:D Two of the most awesome aircraft bashed together! What's not to love?  :-*
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2017, 10:45:48 PM »
The Liggen/Vightning/whatever is still in the works though the clock still turns and other models reach the finish; so lets jump back in time to Ronald Reagan taking office in the White House!

The military build-up besides encompassing the 600-ship Navy and revival of the B-1 also made room for more exotic projects. Ever since the maiden flight of Concorde during 1969 and most especially the 1973 Solar Eclipse Mission the USAF had a wet dream of a SuperSonicReconaissance aircraft that with in-flight refuelling capability and room for various mission types also should be capable of accommodating a double crew for very long extended flights around the Globe at high speed. More or less instant recce where We want it - when We want it!
With Reagan ready to open the coffers the USAF handed in their projects among a lot other and got the go as had been the case of the B-1 revival.
In years to come following delivery of the first USAF SSR-001 in 1983 from the assembly line that had been moved to Seattle on March 23, coinciding with the on-TV launching of the Strategic Defence Initiative didn't fail to name the aircraft Star Wars 1 by those on the inside of the USAF!
The first hot mission occured on April 18, following the bombing of the US Embassy in Beiruth, Lebanon supplementing other sources of intel gathered.
Actually knowledge of the aircraft was kept limited for a number of years and even if rumours of its operations did get out the information was very small with no pictures of the aircraft existing; that is not until the Libyan-Chad war broke out in January 1987 when the French foreign minister managed to disclose that part of the intelligence gathered that made Chadian army able to defeat the Libyan tank brigade had been provided by USAF overflights of SSR-001 aircraft.
This led to a mad scramble of any air-nerd worldwide to produce pics of the aircraft. It wasn't till late 1987 when a British journalist on a trip across the Indian Ocean managed to get a blurred image from high altitude of one on the runway of Diego Garcia base. It didn't exactly mirror you ordinary Concorde - if a Concorde ever could be labelled ordinary - with the twin rudders and antennae panels behind the cockpit.
It took some years before the USAF itself disclosed the SSR-001 which then happened at a US airshow. In an instant the aircraft was the most photographed of the world. It was speculated that the tail/rudders lay-out was in response to the not uncommon problems that had been encountered on Concorde but could also be part of Radar profile reduction that would help to make it near radar-invisible! This of course was not commented on by US defense department officials.
Here's a few pictures:




It was apparent that USAF aircrews still would uphold the great tradition of nose-art  8)


The aircraft registration did pose some queries from air-plane spotters - would this be the new Airforce II?

..or did this signal VIP-transport too with of course a most prestitious mile-high-club following??  :-*

Anyway the upper fuselage "windows" as well as the under fuselage "windows" were the focus of much air-nerd debate usually attributing the lower ones to cameras though the upper ones would remain a mystery. At some point it was reported that a Tu-144 had been spotted at Schönefeld Airport East Berlin with like "windows"!  ???


This Airfix 1/144 Concorde was handed me by my brother-in-law; partially built with one main landing gear broken I decided to go for a kit-bash. The tail was sawed off and replaced  with ones from Heller 1/72 Viggen's. The antennae panel's are pieces of plastic card glued to the fuselage. Decals from stash. Brush painted in Light and Dark Ghost Gray.
Enjoy.  ;D

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2017, 11:13:44 PM »
VERY wonderful Concorde-Viggen scaleorama mix! :-* :-*

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2017, 02:35:04 AM »
Great mashup.  Maybe a Concodiggen?  ;)
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2017, 06:22:54 PM »
I really like the V tail conversion.

That's some inspired thinking!

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2017, 02:47:10 AM »
Beautiful!!  It looks like it could come directly from a Dale Brown novel.

Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2017, 04:47:38 AM »
The  He 70 Floatplane / HM-III reminded me of a British WWII bomber... just remembered the name: The Vickers Wellesley:





The Wellesley was actually tested for torpedo dropping.




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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2017, 03:40:06 PM »
Glad you all like the Rec-corde!  :D
@dogsbody: serves to open up possibilities.  ;D

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2017, 04:40:31 PM »
Like that SSR-001 and background story.  Every picture says "speed"  8)

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #41 on: November 19, 2017, 03:04:10 AM »
1973 the USA was abandoning South Vietnam which was televised worldwide as was the Yom Kippur War in the Middle East and following this the main topic of the day would be the Arab Oil Embargo on the west with rising oil prices and private car running prohibited in places. The days of unrestricted speeding had gone.

One thing that escaped public attention was the transfer of one English Electric Lightning from no. 11 Sqn at RAF Binbrook to Saab works at Linköping southwest of Stockholm. For some years English Electric had been aware that something would have to be done if the Lightning should remain in production and service. The Sea Lightning with the variable geometry wing had proven a non-starter a cheaper solution had to be found and English Electric though they had found that in Sweden.
Saab was a world leader in combat aviation with the J-35 Draken and J-37 Viggen both of groundbreaking deltawing design and top avionics. A cooperation seemed the right thing to enter.
The Swedes weren't exactly enthusiastic about the prospect as they were busy building Viggens for the Swedish Airforce; however to maintain good relations with Britain they agreed to refurbish a single Lightning with a delta wing and upgraded avionics. The latter on condition that it be returned should the future cooperation fall out. Which the Swedes coolly expected to happen.
Receiving the Lightning the Saab engineers quickly removed the wings and avionics and then began pondering what to do next. Various configurations were suggested among these something resembling the Project J-36 wing but that was abandoned due to cost. Instead some junior engineer suggested modifying the Viggen wing and canards and bolt them onto the airframe. That would necessiate another main landing gear but taking measurements it was found to be possible to keep the Viggen gear by mounting the wing lower than the original Lightning wing. The canards was mounted ahead of the wing - Viggen fashion.
Avionics were cut down too; retaining the Red Top missiles on the fuselage hardpoints and keep the wiring for the Sidewinders and Sparrows in the wings. A 30mm cannon was mounted in the nose on the starbord side of the fuselage. Refuelling probe was place under the port canard - and very carefully recorded with provision added to Viggens for eventually adding such in a crisis. Nothing was of course disclosed of this arrangement though the Airforce staff and ministry of Defence were briefed.

The aircraft was given a new lick of paint and then flown back to Britain for a promotions bash at the RAF and MoD. Sadly the RAF was elated by the prospect of a upgraded Lightning which actually flew well and had more hardpoints for missiles as well as a cannon but the MoD simply didn't have money and already other options were considered.

XV738 kept flying with no. 11 Sqn till funding of maintenance for the odd bird ran out during 1975. It had by that time been visiting Linköping several times to have the Swedish avionics removed and general maintenance carried out as well as drinks in the mess of nearby Malmen Airbase for the pilot in the good company of Swedish pilots of F13 Wing. In late 1975 a group of Saab engineers arrived at RAF Binbrook to remove the wings and canards and XV738 would for more then a decade lie abandoned and rusting in a desolate corner of the base only to be scrapped as no. 11 Sqn had been disbanded on 30. April 1988. The story of XV738 is now only known to a few; even Urbans blog of Cancelled Saab aircraft projects makes no mention of the Lighiggen/Liggen/Vightning as it was affectionately know to those RAF pilots who had the chance to fly it.

XV738 with 11. Sqn flash under cockpit

Rear shot of burner cans

Front shot - Red Top on fuselage rail Sparrow under wing cannon groove in nose

Wings configuration

As intercepted Bears would see the XV738


The construction have been posted; the painting was by brush upper Life Color RAF Dark Green undersides Pollyscale Aluminium missiles Life Color Light Gull Gray. Decals from Lightning kit Airfix old Harrier GR.1 and Airfix Buccaneer in the late edition. The kit decals were prone to disintegrating and had to be touched up with Xtracrylix Trainer Yellow. The old and new Airfix ones worked a treat.
A nice fun build and a really better looking Lightning.  :smiley:

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #42 on: November 19, 2017, 03:08:43 AM »
 :smiley:
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2017, 08:10:00 AM »
Great backstory and built!  :smiley:
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2017, 02:36:24 PM »
Wonderful result! :-*
I am surprised a little by the backstory: you do not mention that the key of this project was Denmark (with an order for 1,000 copies?) ;)

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #45 on: November 20, 2017, 05:11:41 AM »
Do I see correctly or was even the single-seat Matchbox Viggen re-tooled at some point? I could swear that the two Mboxes in my stash (both single and double seater) have the dogtooth in the wing, but that seems to be the prototype wing without dogtooth (which Airfix and Hasegawa have).

Looks good all the same :smiley:

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #46 on: November 20, 2017, 04:58:06 PM »
Do I see correctly or was even the single-seat Matchbox Viggen re-tooled at some point? I could swear that the two Mboxes in my stash (both single and double seater) have the dogtooth in the wing, but that seems to be the prototype wing without dogtooth (which Airfix and Hasegawa have).

Looks good all the same :smiley:

I removed the dogtooth from the wing as it was an RWR-probe which would have required more rewiring than EE was ready to pay for..  :-X
And banging myself on head - have a Airfix Viggen lying around would have been much easier to use the wing..  :-\
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2019, 05:41:42 PM »
Hi guys; been off for some time but crawling back to the bench.  :o
A just finished Starfix Skyhawk and some from yesterday - here goes:
Back in the days of 1967 the Danish Airforce needed to replace the F-100D. Runners up were the SAAB Draken - Mirage 5 - F-5A - A-4 Skyhawk and the Dark Horse the E.E. Lightning.
I haven't yet stumbled upon a cheapo Mirage 5 or Danish Draken but here's the Dark Horse (Matchbox 1/72 Lightning with added rocket pods):



The Skyhawk (Starfix 1/72 A-4F? with weapons!):



Finally the Norwegian choice the F-5A (PM 1/72 with Viggen spare cockpit):


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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2019, 06:05:56 PM »
With the end of WWII in 1945 the Danish Government didn't know who to turn to for procuring new military aircraft. Still wanting to uphold neutrality the Danes asked in both West and East but everybody wanted hard cash or hardware in return. The Soviets though in the end decided to get a foothold within bourgeois Denmark and entered an arms deal.
One of the resulting aircraft to take to Danish skies around 1950 was the Yak-15 jet fighter; the pinnacle of construction to Danish eyes and Army Air Corps pilots.





As is visible the AAC were still ready to display Danish ingenuity so when J-74 had had a loss of canopy a Me-262 one was found in a thrashheap at the former Luftwaffe base at Karup and made to fit. Also rockets were experimented with for close airsupport.

The PM kit is one that's really an option for whiffery - cheapo - few parts - whats not to like!  ;D
Trying to give the foggy kit canopy the future treatment I dropped it into the Model Master enamel clear gloss where it melted quickly. A replacement found in the sparesbox and generous amounts of white glue made that fit. Stoppel decals to round it out.
There is an IL-10 and a La-7 somewhere in the stash to round it out.  :smiley:

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2019, 03:00:59 AM »
Nice work.  Really like the idea of Danish Lightnings or Skyhawks.
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #50 on: January 07, 2019, 04:24:43 AM »
Great stuff.

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #51 on: January 12, 2019, 04:33:29 PM »
Some work in progress:
As the Danish Army airmen waited in Sweden for deliverence and return to Denmark 1945 they dreamed of a new aircraft that would take the role of fighter and Army air support; discussing the types available they decided on the Hawker Typhoon as the best choice.
This is the ooooold FROG 1/72 Typhoon with added seat and pressure bottle as well as the oil cooler from a Hobbyboss one



Around 1970 the NATO powers realized something was needed to stop the Warsaw Pact tanks once they come rolling across the Iron Curtain and Western Free Europe; the French were quick to get out the door and propose one taking a little bit of this and little bit of that to win contracts:



More to follow.  ;D


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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #52 on: January 12, 2019, 07:12:25 PM »
This be good  :smiley: do continue.

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2019, 05:41:34 AM »
the twin boom is interesting! The Yak-15 is great, too!

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2019, 07:59:20 AM »
Cheers guys  :D
Update on both - Typhoon ready for decals



Twin booms booming! Had to use loads of lead to make it sit on all three!! Ain't much room inside so the canopy is going to get the Brian treatment of gloss black to hide all the lead..


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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2019, 12:20:07 PM »
Two props and two jets.  Can't tell what type (mission) aircraft it will be.  Has 1950ish look.  :smiley:
So happens am also over half finished on Magister fuselage based build right now.  Remains a trainer.

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2019, 01:58:15 AM »
Typhoon finished. Camo is the Danish pre-war fighter scheme. Bombs some Czech stuff scourged from a Luftwaffe trash heap. Cartoon characters was a typical noseart in post-war years (its DD from an old Airfix Spitfire Mk.V sheet). Main wheels donated by the Hobbyboss Typhoon in the spares box.






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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #57 on: January 14, 2019, 03:30:13 AM »
The Typhoon looks like a completely different beast in those colors and the bubble top looks amazingly clear.

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #58 on: January 14, 2019, 08:57:27 AM »
That Danish Typhoon is pure eye-candy!

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #59 on: January 15, 2019, 12:45:13 AM »
Cheers  :smiley:
I almost brought out the vac-form Typhoon canopy I have but decided not to when I realized how clear the kit one is.

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #60 on: January 15, 2019, 07:52:02 PM »
 :smiley:
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #61 on: February 07, 2019, 12:05:41 AM »
The kitbash Starfix 1/100 Fouga Magister - 1/170 Nordatlas - 1/72 Matchbox Bf-109E needed to get off the bench. Changing the look of the traction props didn't work well must find other ones another day.  :-X
As already written around 1970 NATO needed something to counter USSR tank armies across the Iron Curtain. As the US looked to choppers and the UK had the Harrier the French Army wanted their own too. Fouga came up with an offer of a turboprop tri-motor 2 man crew expanded Magister. Wings had been enlarged to carry more ordenance but the aircraft though promising drowned in inter-service rivalry!
The Army wanted control of all the aircraft as they would support it - the Airforce wanted control of all flying but didn't want a ground hugging slow abomination - the Navy wanted to annoy the other services and did so by supporting the Army!  ;D
In the end nothing but a flying prototype got into the air and then was parked off at some remote testingground and forgotten.  :icon_crap:




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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #62 on: February 07, 2019, 02:24:51 AM »
Nice fun project! Looks great to me!

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #63 on: February 07, 2019, 04:07:45 AM »
oooh nicely done!,  looks great

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #64 on: February 07, 2019, 04:21:18 AM »
Now that's a mighty fine bit of Scale-O-Rama!

Mixed power and twin-booms to boot! You hit on all the whiffy cylinders with this one!

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #65 on: February 07, 2019, 08:07:43 AM »
OOH YEAH !   :-*    Congrats on creative parts and scale mix.  Is toooo good, needs a name.
Way up there on kind of configurations that click with my kitbash DNA.
Relate extra well cuz used Magister fuselage on T-170.

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2019, 08:13:41 PM »
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #67 on: February 08, 2019, 11:13:35 PM »
Thank you all.  :smiley:
@finsrin how about Fouga Hyène (Hyena)? Looked up the Spider Venom - sure like it  :icon_ninja:

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #68 on: March 04, 2019, 12:43:13 AM »
Amid growing tensions in the Arctic with squabbles over who owned the North Pole and such the Norwegian armed forces wanted a light transport aircraft with great endurance able to land on improvised runways in all weather conditions. Contacting various manufacturers and in the process getting Denmark into the boat as such was also seen needed in Greenland to supply the Sirius Sleigh Patrol and other scattered outpost in the great white just as well as Norwegian Jägers in Finnmark or Svalbard; a design was finally approved.
Looking like an Antonov 24 with a kinda Noratlas nose but having jets indstead of turboprops the most striking feature was the winter landing skis. Earning the nickname of Bigfoot when first going to Alaska but known to Danish Sleigh Patrol and Norwegian Jägers as Mother Goose - it soldiered on earning the pay by doing the job around the clock. No payload too odd weather too bad or runway too short Mother Goose would deliver ammunition, mail, christmas presents, fresh sleigh dogs or evacuate wounded. She really turned out to be a golden egg.  :D





Having as leftovers the fuselage of the Starfix 1/170 Noratlas the front third became the nose when that had been cut off the 1/157 Plastyk Antonow AN-24. A FROG 1/72 Tupolev SB-2 provided two skis while some parts from the spares box and a q-tip provided bits to change the engines to jets - oh and a Revell 1/72 Mystere provided the tiptanks.
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #69 on: March 04, 2019, 01:43:32 AM »
Oh now that is most delightful!

I've never seen a better combination of user name/build subject.

Very nicely done, very nicely done indeed!

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #70 on: March 04, 2019, 03:28:25 AM »
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #71 on: March 04, 2019, 05:37:25 AM »
Damn, that's beautiful and everything goes together so well.

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #72 on: March 04, 2019, 07:02:31 AM »
Damn, that's beautiful and everything goes together so well.


Same goes for me.  :smiley:

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #73 on: March 05, 2019, 12:01:23 AM »
Oh now that is most delightful!

I've never seen a better combination of user name/build subject.

Very nicely done, very nicely done indeed!

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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #74 on: March 05, 2019, 05:37:53 AM »
Love your Noratlas/'Coke' mélange!  And great Siriuspatruljen tie-in  :smiley:
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Re: Danish Navy project HM-III 1937
« Reply #75 on: March 06, 2019, 12:45:57 AM »
Cheers apophenia  :smiley: