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Panda Cougar JERRV
« on: June 06, 2016, 09:31:59 PM »
Next project: Panda Cougar JERRV in my favourite 1/35 scale.

A JERRV (Joint EOD Rapid Response Vehicleor Joint Engineering Rapid Response Vehicle) is any vehicle that United States military engineers and Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) units use in war zones such as Iraq. In this case based on the 6x6 Cougar built by Force Protection Inc. In 2004, the new Cougar was designed by a small British-led team in the US at Force Protection, Inc., in response to an urgent requirement by the US Marine Corps. This was a new design, developed in the US, based on an evolution of vehicle mine-protection technology used by the South African Army and Rhodesian Security Forces since the 1970s. The very first sketches of the new vehicle were made in late March 2004 in response to those initial USMC inquiries. The rapid development and production that followed was based upon the USMC request that the first vehicle be delivered within 6 months of an order - which was subsequently placed in mid-April 2004 for 27 units.

Back to the kit: there is an awful lot of plastic in the box



Some of you may recall my early comments on the Panda M-ATV. The under carriage was a nightmare, but it still built into a lovely vehicle which is why I decided to risk another Panda kit. Glad I did too: it's so much easier to assemble. 2 good evenings at the bench have got the undercarriage completed





There are some small draws and more than a few bits of excess glue in trying to get it all together but overall I'm happy with it.

Now to start on the interior....

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2016, 08:15:56 PM »
Latest lesson learned: pay attention to the instructions. There are two interior bases in the box and of course I used the wrong one. Thankfully hadn't attached too much stuff but did lose one of the pedals taking the front plate off





And well recovered now:


The gunners pedestal has 13 parts!


But actually goes together very nicely....


In really liking this kit. 😀

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2016, 08:30:14 PM »
You like to take the easy option, don't you, mate! ;D
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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2016, 09:47:26 PM »
After the Buffalo and M-ATV this one is a breeze Wombat! :D

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2016, 10:42:56 AM »
From the size of the Tamiya bottle in the background, it looks like a smaller kit than I had expected.

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2016, 08:09:49 PM »
It's not that small Frank. Next pic I'll put something beside it for comparison

Some more progress with the storage cabinets and bins attached



They do make it look a bit bulkier

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2016, 04:45:02 AM »
Hmmm...as a alternative (in line with the Non-Military GB currently underway), one might use this kit as the basis for a Paris-Dakar Rally style vehicle:

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2016, 09:56:39 AM »
I want that for driving to work on the express way!
Express way, now that's an ironic term for it.

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2016, 03:21:47 PM »
That would certainly be a colourful version but I think the M-ATV would be better suited to the Pars-Dakar or the (non-)expressway

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2016, 11:57:49 PM »
Wow, that's a huge engine compartment. I just noticed the optics mast on the box top. I hope the kit has monitors, etc. inside.

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2016, 10:44:23 AM »
Looking at the stack of parts sprues, it looks like it could have everything - including the kitchen sink! :o
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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2016, 10:14:53 PM »
Hmmm...as a alternative (in line with the Non-Military GB currently underway), one might use this kit as the basis for a Paris-Dakar Rally style vehicle: <...>

Cougar MRAP - for when you want to race the original Rallye Paris-Dakar!  >:D
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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2016, 06:09:52 AM »
There are monitors, 2 I think, but no sink 😀

Now ready to start the painting


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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2016, 12:31:39 PM »
At least it looks like the kit includes most of the interior furnishings instead of having to mess around with PE parts.

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2016, 08:49:48 PM »
There is a reasonable amount according to the instructions Kerick: fire extinguishers, 2 monitors both for the front passenger, 1 radio only in the rack and a few little doo-dahs here and there. It also comes with a Talon robot which is actually the AFV Club kit.

But that would never be enough for me. It needs another monitor at least for the Talon operator in the back. With all the aerials I'll have to put a lot more radio gear inside. And I'll fill it up with boxes, backpacks, ammo cans, Pelican cases and anything else I can find lying around. It has to "look busy" :)

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2016, 10:25:30 PM »
If it ain't busy, it ain't workin'! ;)



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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2016, 04:33:28 AM »
Them 'roos look a little jumpy     ;D

Did I mention how incredible the weathering is?

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2016, 04:18:04 PM »
Exactly my thoughts too Wombat. And a nice busy one you have there too....

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2016, 06:10:48 AM »
very cool

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2016, 07:54:35 PM »
Haven't forgotten this one. Slowly doing bits and nearly rest to put the top hull on.


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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2016, 08:48:26 PM »
Nice work! :)
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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2016, 07:37:09 PM »
Thanks Wombat

Scratch-built joy-stick for the Talon operator and resin monitor from Blast models


Had to add a back to the radio rack as it will be visible through the windows and the kit supplied radios are just a front face. It's all hollow behind.


The scrapes on the side of the dashboard, screen support, radio rack, seat and cooler are all from trying to fit the top hull half on. It would be OK as all those parts will not be visible but fitting the top on is not going easy.
The radio rack and explosives cabinet both catch on bolt heads on the interior walls. The air-con unit on the back is positioned too low for the bench that is below it. The top of the dashboard catches the underside of the window frame. Lots of clean-up needed





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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2016, 10:29:08 AM »
Yep.. nicely coming along

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2016, 05:19:34 AM »
My favorite detail is the fire extinguisher, but the joystick is a close second.

You must have an incredible amount of patience to do such amazing work like that. I'm just in awe. Some days, I barely have what it takes to get my shoes tied...

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2016, 08:47:01 PM »
Thanks Brian, but recently it's not going so well

In fact it is driving me insane. Top is on but not very well and I broke off so many bits doing it....

Fit at front and rear are OK




But the sides are a mess. Left side has a small gap from the door back, which could easily be filled, but a much bigger gap along the hood


Right side has a large gap the entire length.

With a lot of glue and some serious pressure I might be able to reduce this a bit. And all of this after a lot of sanding, cutting etc. Anyway left & front are already glued so it's not coming off again.

If I were to do one again I'd not put the bins, bumpers or suspension in until after the two hull halves were closed up.

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2016, 06:09:30 PM »
Wow that gap certainly is challenging.

Given your incredible work so far, I'm sure your approach to it is best. If it was mine, I'd try filling it with Tamiya putty and smoothing it out. Once given a nice coat of dark OD, it might actually pass for a weld seam. All my fixes are horribly cave-man.

I've no doubt you'll overcome this with style!

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2016, 12:14:07 AM »
I'd fill that gap with strip styrene first before trying putty

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2016, 01:09:15 AM »
If the top is still loose - you can run a pencil (or a slow drying marker) along all the surfaces that my be hitting the top, then force the top down and see where there's a mark. Remove the excess material and repeat. It's like what dentists do to check your bite.

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2016, 07:42:05 PM »
Thanks Gents. At the last point it was attached front, right and rear so was not coming off. First step was copious amounts of glue and pressure down the left side. Then styrene strips the liquid green stuff followed by more sanding and while not the neatest job, but it will at least let me finish it. Lots of repairs needed after the struggle of getting the two halves together.





It was worth stepping back for a week.

So for anyone else attempting a Panda Cougar start with the inside and get the body halves attached before doing the suspension, fenders, bins, lift rings, steps....basically anything on the outside. And constantly dry-fit....sand, cut, file, dry-fit again, repeat....

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2016, 09:29:15 PM »
This is going to fight me every step of the way....

The front windscreen in incompletely cast. One side is missing ant these stand out from the hull.

How it should be:



The other side:



And after repairs ready for painting:




The controls for rotating the turret were not very well thought out. OK if leaving hatch closed but will need filling with open hatch. Pity I didn't spot it before assembly




So the struggle continues.....stay tuned for further updates

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2016, 03:05:37 PM »
I long for the day I have a build that doesn't throw at least a few curve balls at me! :icon_crap:
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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2016, 11:53:44 PM »
This kit has been putting up a fight. It's good that you're persevering, though.



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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2016, 05:51:58 AM »
Well it's time to start painting the outside using my shiny new airbrush





And the first attempt didn't go so well.



Guess I should have practiced more first. Also tried with Mig primer on the turret and that was even worse.

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2016, 07:25:59 AM »
Did you happen to park at anytime in downtown Detroit overnight? All your tires are missing., :o

Great perseverance and work. Keep it up.
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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2016, 10:45:31 AM »
Yep, looks like my ship did, orange peel.  It wasn't even the section I was painting, paint was pooling in another area I wasn't looking at.

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2016, 11:21:32 AM »
Are you using acrylics?
  If so, are you using a compressor or a can of air?
    If a can of air, there's your problem - the propellant can be oily.
  else, the surface of the model is oily.

If you're using enamels, and a compressor, then you should check the water trap (or you should have a water trap on the compressor).

I paint with acrylics, because it's easier to undo my inevitable mistakes with denatured alcohol (methylated spirits).
My main acrylic paint is Vallejo; their paints cover well and are relatively inexpensive. The downside is that they're delicate, even after they're dry. Vallejo makes several polyurethane primers, but they can be finicky. Other acrylics that I use are Tamiya and Testor's Acryl.

The best primers I've found so far (as good or better than the gold standard, Mr. Durfacer) are the Badger Stynylrez primers. They're acrylic, but dry quickly and produce a flat, hard surface that conforms to fine details. Acrylic paints stick to it well.

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2016, 03:51:01 PM »
No, hasn't been near Detroit or inner-city Dublin :)

I used Mig acrylic and a compressor without priming. But using Mig acrylic primer on the gun tub was even worse. I have since cleaned up the gun tub and restarted with "Ultimate" primer which went down perfectly. Not sure if its the different brand or the fact I had to clean off the old primer cleaned the plastic of any residue also. Have also sanded the orange peel and will re-spray tonight. Funny part is the orange-peel is in a mix of spots....some where it would have got lots of handling during construction and some where it would barely have been touched. It's just going to take a bit of getting used to this airbrush Mullarkey :)

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2016, 11:04:29 PM »
So far I only airbrush my colour coats, primers come from the good-ol' rattlers.

Best results, to date, are with Tamiya grey primer out of the rattle-can.

The Tamiya white is a bit iffy, as it sometimes goes on like yours did, although I have recently noticed that by making 3 or 4 long-range passes with the can leaves a very fine, fairly even coat which seems to be suitable for most enamel/acrylic paints to adhere to & which gives a good base for closer passes of white primer to adhere to, if a solid white base coat is required.
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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2016, 06:52:27 AM »
I'm with my ol' Wombat friend in that I too use Tamiya grey primer out of a rattle-can. Easy to use, goes on well and is an excellent base for further acrylic top coats using my airbrush - a tad expensive but does such a good job that it's worth it in the long run.
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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2016, 03:55:15 AM »
This is what I used to prime the cleaned up gun-tub after the Mig primer was a disaster



Came out quite well too



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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2016, 06:11:33 AM »
And now back to the hairy sticks to start detailing 😀



Took a bit of sanding and re-spraying bits but happy with the result

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« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2016, 06:37:59 AM »
Sweet!  :)
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« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2016, 08:17:56 PM »
Thanks Claymore. The Ultimate primer did the job for me.

Do you folks wash the plastic before starting a build?

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« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2016, 10:36:52 PM »
Much better!

Looking good

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2016, 07:14:52 AM »
It's amazing to me how you've overcome all the challenges involved in this build.

The result is so clean you'd never know about all that which is the very definition of skill in my book.

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« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2016, 08:16:42 AM »
 :-[

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« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2016, 03:08:39 PM »
Do you folks wash the plastic before starting a build?

I have done in that past when a kit seemed to be particularly slimy but usually no.  The good old rattle-can primer covers all!
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« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2016, 03:20:56 PM »
Do you folks wash the plastic before starting a build?

I have done in that past when a kit seemed to be particularly slimy but usually no.  The good old rattle-can primer covers all!

My painting needs all the help it can get.  I most always wash plastic.

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« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2016, 04:33:02 PM »
Do you folks wash the plastic before starting a build?

Sometimes. ::)

Mostly I forget. :-[

But my worst case with Tamiya white occurred on a thoroughly washed model :o (because it was oily to the touch & there was even some slight damage to the kit from the release agent), although I didn't wipe it down with methylated spirits after washing, which I've heard is a good thing to do.
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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #49 on: August 10, 2016, 08:22:17 PM »
Thanks for that feedback gents.

Slowly adding bits and pieces and also started the weathering


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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2016, 05:37:26 PM »
Not getting a whole lot if bench time recently but still plodding along on this one. Need to add the lights and wing mirrors next.


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« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2016, 07:30:31 PM »
Looking good. Glad to see you got your wheels back.  ;D
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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #52 on: August 27, 2016, 06:04:49 PM »
I had those tyres weathered but had to soak them in hot water to soften them enough to go on the hubs and now they are all clean again 😟

Making slow progress. Not too happy with the wing mirrors:

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2016, 03:55:41 AM »
Finally calling this one complete. It was a difficult build but pleased with the result. Went easy on the weathering except for the wheels.











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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2016, 04:53:52 AM »
 :)
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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #55 on: September 04, 2016, 05:22:14 AM »
That massive beast came out looking good, despite all the issues! How does the robot get out of the back?

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #56 on: September 04, 2016, 05:34:17 AM »
How does the robot get out of the back?


Probably a ramp though if you look at the specs for robots such as that shown you may be surprised what they can do.

Alternatively, it might just be lifted (carefully by two people) if it is a smaller one such as the Vanguard.
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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #57 on: September 04, 2016, 05:50:37 AM »
It would normally be folded up inside. There is a carrying handle at each end and it can be lifted by two men. Or one very strong man....
It's just hand keep it there until I build a diorama some year

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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #58 on: September 04, 2016, 07:01:43 AM »
Great job.
I think I have now found my new dream Post-Apocalyptic vehicle..this beastie rocks !
What's not to like about a Cougar ?
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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #59 on: September 04, 2016, 07:49:26 AM »
Well I'm hoping this one will be an easier build


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Re: Panda Cougar JERRV
« Reply #60 on: September 04, 2016, 10:09:18 PM »
Great build, mate! :) 8)
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