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Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« on: December 28, 2015, 01:08:17 AM »
Hi all i received this infamous kit as a present from my missus (note from the title I will only be correcting those errors my megre skills and even megerer knowledge will allow) that said as I'm building just a generic ship of the line it will end up being exactly right.

I have today ordered some gold leaf for this kit as it worked so well on the La Reale and the Royal Sovriegn, I have some copper leaf and brass leaf, wish I could find some bronze leaf for the canons (does anyone know how I could colour brass leaf to look like bronze).

I know everyone will be saying get good am blocks and tackle also bin the thread and get some proper stuff, but, the missus has said keep the costs down, also I feel why spend more on am stuff than the kit cost, so will be investing in bees wax and apart from the gold leaf all else will be oob (apart from maybe some scratch building.






the molding is as exquisite as it was on the La Reale.




























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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2015, 03:04:09 AM »
That hull detail looks especially well done.
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2015, 05:15:50 AM »
Another thing on wanna do list is with 17-18th century sailing ship.
Build without masts and add prop(s) and 20th century guns.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2015, 07:42:17 PM »
Can anyone workout my first problem(It's a biggie, wont be able to go far with this at the moment )
You would think I would have learnt with heller by now (check everything, then check it again.


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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2015, 12:42:41 AM »
Hi all well I cant do much more than this(of course when the gold comes will get more done) I really am peed off though, I know from experience it will be weeks before I get the replacement hull half, stuff like this is really frustrating.

















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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2015, 04:17:52 AM »
Can anyone workout my first problem(It's a biggie, wont be able to go far with this at the moment )


Missing some decking?
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2015, 05:43:01 AM »
Oh two port hulls, two port hulls
How can ya sail with two port hulls.
-with apologies to Richard Thompson
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BTW The French adopted a new standard of iron guns in the 1680s and the bronze guns were
gradually replaced through the 1690s - early 1700s. The iron guns were simpler in form without
all the embellishment and the fancy dolphins. And FWIW the colour of gunmetal (brass) or bronze
guns isn't dramatically different, neither looks like a 'bronze sculpture', the appearance is closer
to red brass.

Sailing Ships of War 1400 - 1860 by Dr. Frank Howard is probably the modeler's reference,
it really is a remarkably detailed work.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2015, 05:47:01 AM by jcf »
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2016, 02:15:37 AM »
Hi all well the gold leaf has arrived for this but will leave any guilding untill\if the other hull side turns up.






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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2016, 03:03:12 AM »
Oh two port hulls, two port hulls


Doh!  How could I miss that obvious one...maybe I am qualified to get a job at Heller :-[
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2016, 08:55:19 AM »
LOL on the hulls, that is certainly a show stopper :o

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2016, 04:12:34 AM »
Hi all well the part is coming, so here is 2 nights of guilding run out of gold leaf now, will have to order some more)













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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2016, 02:40:55 AM »
Looks good
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2016, 05:16:23 AM »
here's tonight's update











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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2016, 07:31:43 AM »
Dammmmn!  That's gorgeous work!

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2016, 09:42:53 PM »
Hi all I've finished one of the rear gallerys so I thought a lot of the detail was hidden so added an oil wash to them














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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2016, 06:14:53 AM »
Certainly made the detail pop. Good job! :)
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2016, 10:38:40 AM »
That really does look nice.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2016, 03:46:38 AM »
Hi all here is my first modification









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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2016, 04:33:44 AM »
See another splendid build coming...... and I can't knit !

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2016, 04:40:34 AM »
Hi all well all the guilding is done Just waiting on the hull now





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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2016, 07:06:46 PM »
Hi all well it's amazing the effect threatening to sue, not just for the cost of the kit but also compensation can have. Special delivery today the hull half arrived(no letter of apology or even a note just the box with the hull in it)
So looks like it's back on then.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2016, 03:37:03 AM »
Hi all well now the hull half is here I'm like a cat with 2 tails, so my first job to remove the moulded plimsole line (I'm raising it a bit to improve the look) (seen it done elsewhere (davidk's build) and it looks much better)



I must say I think it's worked really well, you cant tell it was there at all




couple of strengthening strips in the bottom


She is huge.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2016, 02:06:11 AM »
Hi all here is tonights update .













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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2016, 03:36:11 AM »
Think you are faking us about how you do this.  Top two pictures are of paint applied to plastic - OK. 
But then you put hull piece into chamber of an atom altering device and type in to change plastic to weathered wood.  Click on start and depending on power of particular atom alterer you own; the hull pieces come out as real weathered wood a few seconds or minutes later.   Right ?

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2016, 04:06:02 AM »
Ha ha, that took about 3/4 of an hour its pastels its a trick I learnt by accident the pastels won't stick to plastic on its own so I roughly paint with a matt (has to be matt the pastels won't stick to gloss either) the matt I use would be the lightest shade of the wood I'm trying to replicate, then with the next darkest shade of the wood I'm trying to replicate in pastel I drag the stick lightly over the wood grain, then with a soft brush I brush in the direction of the grain, next I use the darkest shade of wood colour pastel and with a rough grade sand paper I sand it over the hull randomly then brush that in in the direction of the grain, then for the stains I get a black stick of pastel and draw down from top to bottom of the hull then brush up and down till its blended then from side to side, finally I spray with my missus hair spray (you can't varnish it as while the varnish dries all the colours blend into eachothers and it looks awefull) so spray with missus hairspray then when thats dry spray with Matt varnish.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2016, 09:37:19 AM »
Well, the method works wonderfully. Bloody marvellous job, mate! :D
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2016, 01:00:37 AM »
Hi all here is the next update
some of the many, many cannons, think I will see them in my dreams








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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2016, 02:58:03 AM »
Imagine if modern day capital ships such as Carriers were decorated so ornately...
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2016, 11:34:37 AM »
That wood work is terrific.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2016, 01:30:43 AM »
Imagine if modern day capital ships such as Carriers were decorated so ornately...

Then you might end up with the Head of State being beheaded because of a financial crisis due to excess
expenditure contributing to a civil war.*
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2016, 05:37:10 AM »
 I must say, the pastel work on the hull is magnificent. That's a technique I'll have to remember.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2016, 03:40:56 AM »
Hi all here is the next update, 12 of the lower deck cannons, not done much detail work on the carriages as they wont be seen, and done some of the deck furniture, next job to drill the holes out for the gun door ropes( that is going to take some time 104 guns X 2 208 holes then I have to try and think of a way to make the rings for the gun port doors for the ropes to go through.









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« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2016, 06:23:06 PM »
You are one sucker for punishment, old son! ;)
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2016, 04:54:01 AM »
Hi all here is the next update, I needed to drill the holes for the gun port doors ropes, but I wanted them all in the same place so I made a jig.











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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2016, 04:59:13 AM »
Imagine if modern day capital ships such as Carriers were decorated so ornately...

Then you might end up with the Head of State being beheaded because of a financial crisis due to excess
expenditure contributing to a civil war.*
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* See Sovereign of the Seas, Charles I and the English Civil War.  ;)

Lets do it then - there are one or two heads of state (or potential heads of state) I could happily see beheaded... >:D
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2016, 11:52:48 PM »
Hi all here is todays bit.





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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2016, 03:59:13 AM »
Hi all here is the next update.





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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2016, 09:35:44 AM »
You sure you aren't making this out of strips of wood & just pretending to we mere plastic-bashers that it's a styrene kit? ???
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« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2016, 04:38:52 PM »
You sure you aren't making this out of strips of wood & just pretending to we mere plastic-bashers that it's a styrene kit? ???

I too am suspicious of that !

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2016, 04:48:16 PM »
Imagine if modern day capital ships such as Carriers were decorated so ornately...

Then you might end up with the Head of State being beheaded because of a financial crisis due to excess
expenditure contributing to a civil war.*
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* See Sovereign of the Seas, Charles I and the English Civil War.  ;)

Interesting prospect.  Could be tried here first at BTS as a feasibility study without consequences Jon rightly points out !

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2016, 04:00:25 AM »
Hi all here is tonights bit, I've corrected another flaw of this kit There is a big gap in the knee of the head (which according to the experts would not hold the weight of the head and should have been filled with carvings of some sort ) here is the gap

and (since i'm no carver her is my fix, I know its not very elaborate but it fills the hole)





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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #41 on: March 05, 2016, 03:01:26 AM »
Hi all here is my next update.
Anchor ropes made and some of the superstructure made












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« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2016, 01:09:07 AM »
Hi all here is todays efforts. The rear galleries should be open (in fact even on the boxart they are open) so I've cut them out(very nail biting as one slip and I could have ruined them) now I just have to do the floor on the 2 galleries.




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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2016, 03:52:17 AM »
Hi all here is tonight update








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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2016, 03:55:29 AM »
Hi all here is the next update on this.
Made a little jig for putting the tie down rings in the same place every time.













yes I know I've missed some painting on the front of the decks but will sort that soon.

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« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2016, 10:08:41 PM »
Hi all here is another update





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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #46 on: April 10, 2016, 04:56:20 AM »
Looking good
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2016, 03:20:38 AM »
Hi all well this kit comeso with no anchors for the boats so I've knocked some up, also  there are no oars, I've checked a few builds not of the heller kits and they don't seem to have any either, were they stored below decks or should they be there.



Sorry my build rate has slowed so much, but I get some done when I can fit it in and am not feeling too knackered.

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« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2016, 08:24:48 AM »
"As & when you can" is what the hobby's all about, mate. No need to apologise! ;)
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« Reply #49 on: May 21, 2016, 03:31:11 AM »
Hi all well still on this, not much to show, I seem to have lost any skill I had, this is looking so shabby, showed so much potential when I started it, I thought the wood effect was great (I know bit big headed but I did think it was a good effect) seems to have gone down hill since then, sorry.




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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #50 on: May 23, 2016, 05:37:07 AM »
The wood effects are stunning. And if the bling-y bits qualify as "shabby", I'll need to find a way repointing my knitting needles!!
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« Reply #51 on: May 23, 2016, 09:28:33 AM »
What he said!  That looks great to me.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #52 on: May 23, 2016, 09:42:15 AM »
like it as well.

As to oars on boats, on more modern ships the oars are stored in the boats, generally stored centrally over the rowing benches and secured by ropes and I would see no reason why this would be a recent development, as really without the oars the boats are practically useless. I an cannot image fossicking around for oars when you are trying to launch a boat.
As a counter point though,  anchors appear to be much less commonly seen on long boats as either they were sea use or taken all the way onto shore. But there s every chance they were stored further down in the innards of the ships boats.


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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2016, 01:05:10 PM »
Ship's Boat oars were always stored in the boat, either tied to the benches under the gunwales or along the centre of the boat (depending on length in relation to the boat).

Boat anchors were stored in the bow of the boat & were significantly smaller than the ones you've made but were, generally, until fairly recently, of the same form as ships' anchors. A large longboat anchor may have been 4' long but were generally in the 3' to 31/2' range because anything larger would require more than 2 men to manoeuvre, which was close to impossible in the tight bow space of a ship's boat.

If the build quality is dropping/has dropped significantly, I can't see it, mate! :)
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #54 on: May 25, 2016, 03:18:29 AM »
I'm  bit late to this party but I just wanted to express my delight at such incredible detail work!

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #55 on: June 19, 2016, 04:36:58 AM »
Hi all a tiny update really just to show I'm still on this (I know it's not great but I figure I can remove all the gold and redo it, if and when my mojo returns.


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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #56 on: June 19, 2016, 08:02:58 AM »
Looks fine to me.
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« Reply #59 on: June 20, 2016, 01:53:06 AM »
There doesn't appear to be anything wrong with your mojo from here. This ship is epic! :icon_beer:
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« Reply #60 on: June 20, 2016, 10:00:05 AM »
There doesn't appear to be anything wrong with your mojo from here. This ship is epic! :icon_beer:
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #61 on: June 21, 2016, 04:22:58 PM »
I've not looked into this thread before as sailing ships are not my thing. However I just clicked on it by accident and all I can say is wow! That just looks awesome Sir!

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #63 on: July 20, 2016, 12:26:48 AM »
Hi all well since I've finished the 32 ford I'm tentatively back on this, the first thing I noticed(which when I put it away I didn't was the jib was quite a bit off centre, no amount of gentle twisting would straighten it so I bit my lip and cut it off.









The guilding on the top rails was rubbish so that's been given another go, still not happy with it but will live with it for now also added a bit more deck furniture.









Removed some of the wash from the transom sort of better we will just have to see how I feel after I've lived with it for a while, I may still strip it, I'm feeling better about it anyway.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #64 on: July 21, 2016, 08:46:19 PM »
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #65 on: July 24, 2016, 03:49:32 AM »
Hi all here is another little update, that mast is not glued in yet just positioned to see the effect, I've seen where people do the ratlines on the upper masts before atattching the mast, to me it looks easier than having to try it whilst attached to the ship.


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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #66 on: July 30, 2016, 04:56:43 AM »
Hi all well this is certainly leagues more complex and detailed than any ship I've built not sure I'm upto rigging this, for instance all the pulleys attached it the mast and crows nest, I've barely started on this one mast, I take my hat off to anyone tackling this complex a rigging  not sure I will stick the course, I've not found an easy way to tie the pulleys. The 4von this mast took 2 hours and a lot of swearing.









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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #67 on: August 10, 2016, 03:43:42 AM »
Hi all, the rest of the cannons are fully visible so I've decided to try and detail them a bit more, there is no wood grain moulded in the plastic sides so I've scratched some lightly with my knife and tried painting and using pastels to get an wood effect, not worked as well as I'd liked but better than nothing, and when they are installed you probably won't even notice anyway.



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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #68 on: August 13, 2016, 04:20:34 AM »
Hi all these cannons are a bit tedious but I've done a bit more, not happy with them, they still don't look very realistic (each one is less than 1/2 an inch long, well the carriage is anyway), so I can't do much with them but I'm wondering weather the decking from the 1/72 revell flower class corvette would look good stuck on and stained what do you think.



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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #69 on: August 13, 2016, 06:45:38 AM »
Quite an arsenal you have there...
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #70 on: October 16, 2016, 03:48:35 AM »
Hi all well i know I've not touched this for a while, Pam just snapped the fore mast, apparently she was just getting the dog a treat  (the bag with the treats in was on the table with the kit) my fault entirely, she is so upset I'm more cross she even tried to, that's what I'm here for to get stuff, trouble is she thinks because she can make it to the loo and make a cuppa she can do anything, I love her to bits and can't wait for her to get better. Anyway when I do get back on this that will be the first thing for me to takle. 

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #71 on: February 08, 2017, 04:13:41 AM »
Right after some good advice I may well get started back on this, I've just bought these 3 books

So hopefully after a good read the rigging won't be sooooo scarey.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #72 on: February 09, 2017, 06:46:35 AM »
Petersson is an excellent choice.  :)
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #73 on: February 09, 2017, 12:23:37 PM »
Heck of a build.  You persistence and perfection are shining through.  Keep going. :)

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #74 on: August 06, 2017, 11:36:04 PM »
Hi all well I'm back on this but with a change of attack, it's now going to be a water line model, I didn't like the ships boats on the deck (take up too much space and I don't believe the ship would have operated like that) so it will be towed along side something like this.



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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #75 on: August 09, 2017, 02:53:50 AM »
Hi all which of these positions do you think looks best, straight ahead or at a jaunty angle.


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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #76 on: August 16, 2017, 03:31:23 AM »
Hi all well I've detailed up one of the ships boats (I suppose that means I will have to do the other one now)here's the before

Put the bathroom sealant on and started painting the tops of the waves


Loads more wave painting to do.
I've removed a couple of the guns to load the supplies into I understand they used some sort of pulley system from the spars to load the supplies with and I want to depict that has anyone got any detailed drawings of how this was achieved.





I've only used one of the port and starboard anchors, I'm hoping the other two are spares, I can't imagine they used all 4 anchors or am I wrong.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #77 on: August 17, 2017, 02:05:38 AM »
Looking good
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #78 on: August 17, 2017, 11:52:55 AM »
Looking good
Damn straight it is.  Absolutely gorgeous work, there.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #79 on: August 17, 2017, 05:06:50 PM »
Marvelous! :smiley:
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #80 on: August 18, 2017, 02:23:25 AM »
Hi all well I've finally finished painting the waved (That's a lot of water) not sure if it needs more colour, I'm trying for the dark brackish water of a harbour.




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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #81 on: August 18, 2017, 06:39:34 PM »
Water looks superb! :smiley: :smiley: :D

Don't over think it. ;)
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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #82 on: August 26, 2017, 01:55:11 AM »


 all well I've fixed the foremast and strengthened it with a rod up the middle, making it a waterline model had an unexpected problem to it the main mast locates in an I shaped piece which is glued to the bottom of the hull to keep the mast central and true since I cut the bottom of the hull off obviously that locating area was no longer there also the mast was a lot higher than it should have been, luckily I still had the bottom of the hull that I cut off so I put the mast in it laid a rule across the hull and marked where it cam on the mast and cut that piece off but the mast is tapered at the bottom and the holes through the decks must be the same size as when I put the mast in it Leaned either way so I had a cunning idea and wrapped masking tape round the bottom of the mast till it was a snug fit in the bottom hole ( only problem now is the mast seems to lean sternwards) so now I just have that problem to sort and of course to make sure it is square with the center line as well.




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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2018, 04:56:50 AM »
Hi all well I've got this back out as Gandale (Alan on another forum posted an easy way to do the stays on this) (That's what's been scaring me from continuing this build) baring in mind this is my first attempt at doing them I'm quite chuffed with the result (obviously I've seen them done millions of times better but hey I can only get better from now on) 




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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #84 on: April 12, 2018, 03:37:23 AM »
Hi all got this out to do some work on it. There seems to be a problem with the cheap paint I used on the base (Not had this problem before) the base started off dk blue but over time it seemed to go brackish


Which I didn't mind too much as it just looks like dirty harbour water but worryingly it is doing this from the edges and seems to be progressing inward


Do you think this will progress, if so should I stripp it all off (assuming I can) then start again, any suggestions.

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Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line
« Reply #85 on: April 12, 2018, 03:47:23 PM »
Is it the paint or is the silicone lifting off the base? ???

Both are an issue, I guess, but, if it's the paint, I'd try to remove the surface & re-paint with a better paint or, if it's the silicone lifting, I'd try to remove the silicone, ensure both surfaces (but especially the painted surface) are absolutely clean & dry, then try to re-affix the silicone surface with a layer of fresh silicone (or, as a last resort, re-do the entire water thing - which would be a huge pity, seeing as how good you got it the first time around).
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