Author Topic: Panzerkampfwagen III & IV Ideas and Inspiration  (Read 3443 times)

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Re: Panzerkampfwagen III & IV Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2018, 01:34:31 PM »
Been doing a bit of research for an idea I had relating to the use of axis equipment captured in North Africa and the Middle East in South East Asia.  One of the ideas was captured STUG IIIs (as well as other vehicles) could have been shipped to Australia for refurbishment and employment in continental defence, freeing up many of the Stuarts, Grants and Lees (the later used only in Australia and mostly for training) for other Allies in theatres where they would actually see combat use.

The various marks of STUG obtained would initially be employed in an adhoc manner to flesh out newly formed armoured units but then as things settled down they would be cycled through base workshops and modified to a close to common standard, including regunning.  Thinking 6pdr and 75mm M-1 (or M-2/3) Pack Howitzer, or perhaps a 25pdr.  As a war emergency option it is not deployed outside Australia but is retained until replaced in the late 40s, early 50s, by an E10 derived 77mm TD. 

Maybe Panzer III tanks could also be supplied and modified with various ways, also being retained into the early 50s.

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Re: Panzerkampfwagen III & IV Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2018, 06:08:59 PM »
The Norwegians used Panzer IIIs until the early-mid 1960s, left over from the German occupation during the war.  They replaced them with M24s, which they later upgraded with a 90mm low-pressure gun.   A clear case where the environment determined the size/weight of the vehicle that could be used.

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Re: Panzerkampfwagen III & IV Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2018, 01:37:44 AM »
Not great tanks but also available were the captured Italian M13/40 and M11/39 tanks operated by the Cavalry regiments in North Africa.
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Re: Panzerkampfwagen III & IV Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2018, 06:35:33 AM »
What about some Stugs in Israeli service?
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Re: Panzerkampfwagen III & IV Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2018, 01:51:43 AM »
Random idea:  Germany's Blitzkrieg tactic was all about speed.  What if as part of this, they became enamoured with the Christie suspension solution as did others at time (e.g. the Soviets with the BT series and the Brits with the cruiser tanks) with the eventual result of the Panzer III/IV both having Christie suspension instead of their torsion-bar solutions?  Could make for some different looking creations.
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Re: Panzerkampfwagen III & IV Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2018, 01:33:08 PM »
I've always felt the Cromwell and Comet hulls to have similar aesthetics to those of Panzer III and IV.  Although the crew positions would need to be mirrored.
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Re: Panzerkampfwagen III & IV Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2018, 08:24:37 AM »
Random idea:  Germany's Blitzkrieg tactic was all about speed.  What if as part of this, they became enamoured with the Christie suspension solution as did others at time (e.g. the Soviets with the BT series and the Brits with the cruiser tanks) with the eventual result of the Panzer III/IV both having Christie suspension instead of their torsion-bar solutions?  Could make for some different looking creations.

For modelling purposes, you could start with the Christie suspension from the PzKpfw II Ausf. D and just add an extra roadwheel per side.
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Re: Panzerkampfwagen III & IV Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2018, 01:17:02 AM »
Random idea:  Germany's Blitzkrieg tactic was all about speed.  What if as part of this, they became enamoured with the Christie suspension solution as did others at time (e.g. the Soviets with the BT series and the Brits with the cruiser tanks) with the eventual result of the Panzer III/IV both having Christie suspension instead of their torsion-bar solutions?  Could make for some different looking creations.

For modelling purposes, you could start with the Christie suspension from the PzKpfw II Ausf. D and just add an extra roadwheel per side.

Errr...the Ausf. D variant had torsion bar suspension as far as I was aware. ???
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Re: Panzerkampfwagen III & IV Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2018, 01:32:59 AM »
Having said that, maybe I should have done more research myself:  PzIII Ausf. A with essentially Christie suspension:




See here for more:  http://tankarchives.blogspot.com/2017/01/pzkpfwiii-ausf-christie-german-style.html
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