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Floaty Inspiration
« on: February 01, 2015, 04:42:54 AM »
Whilst we await our captain moderator to untie the mooring lines on this GB, here is some inspirationů


Please feel free to post more.
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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2015, 08:22:51 AM »
Post your inspirational materials here people.

Try Browsing these two forums for ideas.  If you can't think of something after reading through them then well.... ;D

Model Warships - Whiff Section (You'll find a bunch of my old ideas in there  ;) )
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewforum.php?f=67

Secret Projects - Naval Projects
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/board,23.0.html

Go to your local library and look for Norman Friedman's Illustrated Design History series.  Volumes include Aircraft Carriers, Battleships, Cruisers, Destroyers, Submarines (2 volumes), Small Combatants (PT boats and riverine craft), and Amphibious Vessels.  They are all choked full of line drawings, photos, more info then you ever wanted to know and most importantly design sketches/proposals for never built vessels!!!!  They're a treasure trove of ideas and a scratch builder's dream  8)  Feel free to discuss anything you find in them with me.

Photo sources of real ships:
http://www.navsource.org/

Russian Navsource
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.navsource.narod.ru%2F&act=url

http://www.history.navy.mil/branches/org11-2.htm
http://www.navyphotos.co.uk/index2.htm
http://www.defenceimagery.mod.uk/fotoweb/LandingPage.fwx
http://www.defenseimagery.mil/index.html
http://collections.naval.aviation.museum/emuwebdoncoms/pages/doncoms/AdvQuery.php

Official USN Plans in PDF Form.  A scratch builder's DREAM!!!!
http://www.hnsa.org/resources/manuals-documents/booklets-of-general-plans-online/
http://www.hnsa.org/resources/manuals-documents/single-topic/boats-of-the-united-states-navy/
http://www.hnsa.org/resources/manuals-documents/

http://www.navweaps.com/

Official USN Spring Style Design Books #1 (1919-1925) and #3 (1939-1944).  Ever wonder how ships were designed?  A Whiffer's/scratch builder's paradise!  Did I mention they're all high-res  8)
http://156.112.98.23/photos/albums/s584-ax.htm
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/OnlineLibrary/photos/albums/s511.htm



I'm always available to bounce ideas off of as well.  Ships are my passion and area of interest so fire away!

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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2015, 03:56:30 PM »
Some not-totally-realistic floatplanes...


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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2015, 06:43:28 PM »
Also...

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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2015, 03:42:04 AM »
Porco Rosso's Savoia S-21  ;)

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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2015, 08:47:07 AM »


 ;D
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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2015, 08:59:23 AM »
Jon - that is way cool 8)     Never woulda thought of it

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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2015, 09:23:13 AM »
Anyone up to scratch building the FHE 400 Bras d'Or as if it made it to production status.

« Last Edit: February 02, 2015, 10:33:39 AM by The Big Gimper »
Work in progress ::

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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2015, 12:12:07 PM »


 ;D


Need one of those Budwieser Miss America racing boat kits. Used to have that one.

Anyone brave enough to take this on?
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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2015, 02:49:23 AM »
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2015, 05:00:12 AM »
I like the comment in the add about buying a bigger work bench!

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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2015, 05:51:05 AM »
Land Nagato

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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2015, 07:05:02 AM »
Didn't know about this one.  It is cool 8)

http://www.engadget.com/2015/02/02/wanna-buy-a-boat/

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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2015, 09:53:37 PM »
How about this piece of whiffery goodness from "X-Men : First Class":

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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2015, 11:00:40 PM »
That was one of the supposedly Soviet ships, wasn't it? ???
"This is the Captain. We have a little problem with our engine sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and, ah, explode."

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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2015, 07:40:01 AM »
We tried figuring out what that was over on ModelWarships and I think the general consensus was it was several different ships but a Kara Class Cruiser sticks out as one of them in my mind.  If anyone wants to take a stab at it let me know and I'll dig up what we figured out.
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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2015, 07:50:08 AM »
We tried figuring out what that was over on ModelWarships and I think the general consensus was it was several different ships but a Kara Class Cruiser sticks out as one of them in my mind.  If anyone wants to take a stab at it let me know and I'll dig up what we figured out.

It's clearly inspired by a Kara, but no Kara ever had 4 x quad SSN-14 boxes or 2 x twin 130mm up front!
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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2015, 09:01:06 AM »
It has some features of the Sovremenny Class, turrets and launchers... but there are too many of them.

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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2015, 09:17:38 AM »
They just needed more weapons to take care of those pesky mutants.  ;D

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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2015, 11:56:16 AM »
The daft thing is that it's got a Kara's Headlights fire-control radar above the bridge, but no SA-N-3 for it to control. Also, if those missile quads are supposed to be AShMs, then there should be some kind of xxxx-dome fire-control radar above the bridge for them.
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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2015, 09:16:42 PM »
This is Hollyweird, don't start bringing up facts, they just get confused.

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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2015, 12:10:04 AM »
... and in a movie based on a comic-book about people with laser-eye blast, control of metal objects (ferrous or not) etc., etc.

It's all a complete fantasy, so why in hell would the tech detais of military hardware be required to be factually correct.
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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2015, 06:16:04 AM »
How about this piece of whiffery goodness from "X-Men : First Class":




Love soviet 130mm twin turrets  :) ;)

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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2015, 06:49:26 AM »
I posted this elsewhere, but it may be relevant here too

Land Nagato


Land Sovremenny




it recalls me this one (who is the author again?) : I have a plan of trying to make something like it, sometimes ...
and please note the floaty things on top of it ...


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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2015, 07:43:25 AM »
Weaver, look aft on the Kara.  There's a twin arm launcher for SA-N-1 or 3 back there by a twin 57mm  :)
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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2015, 11:15:46 AM »
Amphibian inspiration




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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2015, 03:13:47 AM »
A lightweight piece on 'Unique Ships of the USN', from USNI:
http://news.usni.org/2015/01/30/unique-ships-u-s-navy#sthash.XepsHUCa

An online book on the NR-1, the USN's nuke powered deep submersible.
http://nr-1-book.com/index.html



Note the wheels on the bottom, shades of Simon Lake's early designs.
http://www.simonlake.com

Be aware that the Lake site is a family/fan site, so take some of the statements/claims with a grain of salt.  ;)
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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2015, 03:03:36 AM »
Something a little different to maybe get some out of the box ideas:  a representation of a submersible on the moon Europa:

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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2015, 01:30:26 PM »
Probably stretching it a bit (or perhaps ludicrously) far, but how about, floating through the air, i.e. a hot air balloon, dirigible or blimp, or floating through space?  Can you float through time or maybe dimensions?

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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2015, 11:15:14 AM »
Weaver, look aft on the Kara.  There's a twin arm launcher for SA-N-1 or 3 back there by a twin 57mm  :)

Oh I know, but Headlights radar was always installed in the same arc as the launchers on RL Soviet ships. |'m not sure if SA-N-3 could be controlled by an FCS that wasn't in it's initial arc of fire.
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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2015, 11:16:56 AM »
... and in a movie based on a comic-book about people with laser-eye blast, control of metal objects (ferrous or not) etc., etc.

It's all a complete fantasy, so why in hell would the tech detais of military hardware be required to be factually correct.
 :icon_fsm:

They're not, but since they've gone to the trouble of copying real-world systems fairly accurately, it's legitimate to discuss whether their overall design would work or not.
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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2015, 11:46:29 PM »
"Radials growl, inlines purr, jets blow!"  -Anonymous

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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2015, 07:21:11 AM »
A couple of closely related late '30s oddities from Saunders-Roe.
The cockpit is in the hull/float, the upper position is for the gunner.

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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2015, 03:45:22 PM »
A couple of closely related late '30s oddities from Saunders-Roe.
The cockpit is in the hull/float, the upper position is for the gunner.




Beautiful!

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« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2015, 04:08:14 AM »
US 20,000 ton cruiser sub concept from 1920, it was to use multiple parallel pressure hulls because
of diameter limitations imposed by available technology. Main turrets were hemispherical to resist
pressure. The smaller turrets carried twin 4"/50 cal guns.



From Friedman, U.S. Submarines Through 1945.
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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2015, 04:10:43 AM »
Interesting
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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2015, 08:21:07 AM »
Check the "Spring Styles #1" link above.  There's more "cruiser subs" in there including ones with triple 8" turrets.
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« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2015, 09:09:31 AM »
Yep, and Friedman's book also has a table comparing the specifics of those various smaller concepts.  ;)
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Re: Floaty Inspiration
« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2015, 05:52:58 AM »
Anyone?


Or maybe rotor ship?


Or Parsons's  Turbinia?
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