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Re: Upgunned Tanks
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2011, 05:37:09 AM »
It might not seem like a lot, but what about a Panzer II upgunned with a 37mm instead of the standard 20mm antitank gun?


According to Achtung Panzer!, experiments were done but never completed on re-arming the Panzer II with captured French SA 38 gun (30mm penetration at 1000m).  Maybe someone in the turret will have to pull double-duty as a loader, too.
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Re: Upgunned Tanks
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2011, 04:39:45 PM »
Diggin' the re-turreted Matildas!
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Re: Upgunned Tanks
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2011, 10:45:50 AM »
Diggin' the re-turreted Matildas!

If there were a lot more Type 3 Ka-Chi and Type 5 To-Ku than in real-life, maybe the Matilda with Cavalier turret would have been more appreciated?  :want:
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Re: Upgunned Tanks
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2011, 03:24:04 AM »
Question- how does the 25 pounder do as a tank gun?  It is said that it gives the AC3 a serviceable anti-tank and high-explosive weapon- okay, but can I assume that they are effective against late-war tanks over normal combat range except for the aspect of rate of fire?

It was a low velocity weapon in comparison with established anti-tank and tank guns such as the 6pdr and 17pdr.  The power of the 25pdr was in the chemical energy available in the high explosive capacity of the shell.  Consider it in roughly the same category as a mortar, it was excellent as an indirect fire weapon system with a limited effectiveness in direct fire. 
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Re: Upgunned Tanks
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2012, 07:47:01 PM »
A serious effort to increase firepower of the Sherman in real life was done by mating an M26 Pershing turret with an M4 Sherman. 

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Front view image of the drawing depicting the Sherman with Pershing turret that originally appeared in Hunnicutt's book
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Re: Upgunned Tanks
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2012, 11:04:01 PM »
I'm not a tank builder anymore but this is cool.
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Re: Upgunned Tanks
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2012, 03:50:46 AM »
At first glance, this could easily be confused with some of the post way Israeli developments:

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Re: Upgunned Tanks
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2012, 09:17:12 PM »
Interesting.... I had it in mind to put a 1/76th Fujimi Type-61 turret on a 1/76th Easy-Eight chassis. The results looked top heavy, causing me to go looking for a 1/7nd hull instead, but it was actually no worse than that M26/M4 combo.
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Re: Upgunned Tanks
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2012, 01:59:18 AM »
Marcos Serra finished his 1/35th scale conversion and kit bash of the Tamiya M4 (105) and the M26 Pershing
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Re: Upgunned Tanks
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2012, 02:26:32 AM »
If done in bulk, they could have been an interesting addition to the war in Europe.
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Re: Upgunned Tanks
« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2012, 08:03:05 AM »
Didn't Zod do something similar before?  ;)
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Re: Upgunned Tanks
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2012, 12:30:18 AM »
Didn't Zod do something similar before?  ;)
Yeah, I think I remember him doing a similar vehicle in 1/48 uh, sorry, 1/35 scale, using a Tamiya Pershing turret and the Hobby Boss Academy 'E8 suspension.
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Re: Upgunned Tanks
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2012, 12:47:29 AM »
Oh, and on the subject of upgunned Sherman tanks, this one is on my "to do" list:
US Army M4A3 (17 pdr) Firefly

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Re: Upgunned Tanks
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2012, 06:27:52 AM »
Didn't Zod do something similar before?  ;)

Yeah,a 1/35 version. Not sure if I posted it here or not.  :)
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Re: Upgunned Tanks
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2012, 06:29:00 AM »
Didn't Zod do something similar before?  ;)
Yeah, I think I remember him doing a similar vehicle in 1/48 scale, using a Tamiya Pershing turret and a Hobby Boss 'E8 Sherman.

That one was an M10 turret with a longer barrel on the Hobby Boss kit. :)
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