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Re: Small Arms
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2016, 02:28:08 AM »
Fair enough.  Either way, its still a big "small" arm. ;)
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Re: Small Arms
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2016, 04:54:53 AM »
Fair enough.  Either way, its still a big "small" arm. ;)
A two man carry at minimum, four if you really want to move quickly ;)
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Re: Small Arms
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2016, 08:03:37 PM »
Fair enough.  Either way, its still a big "small" arm. ;)
A two man carry at minimum, four if you really want to move quickly ;)

Bugger that! Mount it on a sidecar! :)
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Re: Small Arms
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2016, 11:04:21 PM »
Fair enough.  Either way, its still a big "small" arm. ;)
A two man carry at minimum, four if you really want to move quickly ;)
Bugger that! Mount it on a sidecar! :)

The larger Solothurn S-18/1000 did come with a two wheel mount/carriage that could be towed or hauled by several soldiers.  The trails rotated to lock the barrel in place and a "T-Bar" was attached to the gun barrel and used to pull the weapon. 

This thumbnail image from Wikipedia shows some of the details:

See the larger image at the source page
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Re: Small Arms
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2016, 03:33:26 PM »
I am sure you know much more than me on this issue. But for me, they do not look equal: trigger guard, catch on front of slide, ... Is it just a variant?


That's because it looks like Aoshima is flogging a poor copy of a Marui BB gun, that does look like the Colt.  8)
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/tokyo-marui-centimeter-master-sv-ebb-pistol.html#.VslfZfh7BSU

The venerable 1911 has been made - and is still being made in a huge range of variants. Details differ but the way they work on the inside is the same.

This one has a heavy barrel and no barrel bushing:

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Re: Small Arms
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2016, 06:13:16 PM »
How about the whole Caseless Ammunition rabbithole, with the potential for heavier belt-fed support weapons?



http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?16042-THE-GUN-THAT-NEVER-WAS-Heckler-amp-Koch-G11

« Last Edit: September 04, 2016, 06:17:38 PM by Story »

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Re: Small Arms
« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2016, 09:22:16 PM »
This is a great Youtube channel and website for obscure and interesting guns:

https://www.youtube.com/user/ForgottenWeapons

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/
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Re: Small Arms
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2016, 05:34:09 AM »
Not sure if this qualifies as a "small" arm:  Lahti L-39 20 mm anti-tank rifle




Ah, for someone who spent a good part of his military time carrying a M60 and MAG-58 GPMG, you know where you can keep that Lahti L-39 GTX  ;)

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Re: Small Arms
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2016, 08:22:27 PM »
M-60.......Shudder......almost impossible to strip without drawing blood.  Best bit was the second there was blood there was a medic with a tetanus shot, if you couldn't tell the date of your last booster they jabbed you, I ended up with so many antibodies that when I donated blood they used it to make more tetanus vaccine.

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Re: Small Arms
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2016, 09:34:34 PM »
M-60.......Shudder......almost impossible to strip without drawing blood.  Best bit was the second there was blood there was a medic with a tetanus shot, if you couldn't tell the date of your last booster they jabbed you, I ended up with so many antibodies that when I donated blood they used it to make more tetanus vaccine.

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Re: Small Arms
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2016, 05:19:31 AM »
M-60.......Shudder......almost impossible to strip without drawing blood.  Best bit was the second there was blood there was a medic with a tetanus shot, if you couldn't tell the date of your last booster they jabbed you, I ended up with so many antibodies that when I donated blood they used it to make more tetanus vaccine.

Ha ha, so true.
At least the additional blood would have lubricated the bloody thing.
It's ironic, but for years I attempted too come up with a make-shift foregrip for the 60, but the 'system' use to flip out about "unauthorised modifications.....".
It was only years latter when training with the Yanks, that I had the opportunity in the form.of the M60E, to appreciate the comfort and usability of a foregripped 60 (add to this the relief and foresight of moving those stupid blood legs from the barrel to the body!!!)
Saying this, I would given the spleen of my enemy to have had the same foregrip on the ungainly to carry MAG-58!! :P

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Re: Small Arms
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2016, 08:18:58 PM »
M-60.......Shudder......almost impossible to strip without drawing blood.  Best bit was the second there was blood there was a medic with a tetanus shot, if you couldn't tell the date of your last booster they jabbed you, I ended up with so many antibodies that when I donated blood they used it to make more tetanus vaccine.

Ha ha, so true.
At least the additional blood would have lubricated the bloody thing.
It's ironic, but for years I attempted too come up with a make-shift foregrip for the 60, but the 'system' use to flip out about "unauthorised modifications.....".
It was only years latter when training with the Yanks, that I had the opportunity in the form.of the M60E, to appreciate the comfort and usability of a foregripped 60 (add to this the relief and foresight of moving those stupid blood legs from the barrel to the body!!!)
Saying this, I would given the spleen of my enemy to have had the same foregrip on the ungainly to carry MAG-58!! :P

M.A.D

I believe 6 RAR used the perforated sheet from the M-60 bi pod on the MAG-58 to make it easier to carry, they also apparently were able to obtain BRENs when they changed from Scout/Command, Gun and Rifle group in each section to two fire teams before they were issued with Minimis (F89 in Australian service)

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Re: Small Arms
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2016, 04:31:00 AM »
While you two reminisce about good times how about some fictional weapons:

M41A Pulse Rifle (from "Aliens")





M56 Smart Gun (also from "Aliens"):



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Re: Small Arms
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2016, 07:08:41 AM »
M-60.......Shudder......almost impossible to strip without drawing blood.  Best bit was the second there was blood there was a medic with a tetanus shot, if you couldn't tell the date of your last booster they jabbed you, I ended up with so many antibodies that when I donated blood they used it to make more tetanus vaccine.

Ha ha, so true.
At least the additional blood would have lubricated the bloody thing.
It's ironic, but for years I attempted too come up with a make-shift foregrip for the 60, but the 'system' use to flip out about "unauthorised modifications.....".
It was only years latter when training with the Yanks, that I had the opportunity in the form.of the M60E, to appreciate the comfort and usability of a foregripped 60 (add to this the relief and foresight of moving those stupid blood legs from the barrel to the body!!!)
Saying this, I would given the spleen of my enemy to have had the same foregrip on the ungainly to carry MAG-58!! :P

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I believe 6 RAR used the perforated sheet from the M-60 bi pod on the MAG-58 to make it easier to carry, they also apparently were able to obtain BRENs when they changed from Scout/Command, Gun and Rifle group in each section to two fire teams before they were issued with Minimis (F89 in Australian service)

British Army sections often used to carry a Bren in the days when the official equipment scale was one GPMG (MAG-58) per section. Got a pic somewhere of the two gunners and it doesn't half make the size difference clear.
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Re: Small Arms
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2016, 07:23:46 AM »
While you two reminisce about good times how about some fictional weapons:

M41A Pulse Rifle (from "Aliens"):


M56 Smart Gun (also from "Aliens"):



If I remember correctly, the Pulse Rifle was a Thompson M1A1 SMG fitted with the guts of a Franchi SPAS-12 auto-shotgun to provide the 'grenade launcher'. People in the replica props world make kits of the moulded bodywork so that you build your own (obviously easier in the US where you've a reasonable chance of getting hold of the donor guns). You can also get Airsoft and Paintball versions of it.

The Smart Gun was a hacked-around MG-42 machine-gun fitted with motorbike handgrips and controls and attached to a modified Steady-Cam harness. Can't recall what the triangular frames were but they were 'salvagel too IIRC I don't think there's much available as off-the-shelf conversions for this one because there really wern't many custom parts on it anyway, so it's pretty easy to throw together if you can get the bits. Again, there are Airsoft and Paintball versions too.

EDIT: just realised what the triangular frames were: they're motorcycle pillion footpeg brackets, presumably off the the same scrap bikes they took the hand controls from.
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