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Re: Aircraft Gun Systems and Gun Pods
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2014, 07:50:36 AM »
Built one years ago for my nephew with five gunpods in Canuck F-104-stylie all-green cammo.  ;D


 ;D. I don't suppose you have any photos?

Sounds like a modern version of this:

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Re: Aircraft Gun Systems and Gun Pods
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2014, 09:20:32 AM »
Sweet -16, Kitnut!  :) Any idea what you're going to do in terms of decals?

Since Euro 1 looks that good on the Viper, I suppose SEA wrap-around wouldn't look half-bad either....
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Re: Aircraft Gun Systems and Gun Pods
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2014, 10:20:48 AM »



While I suspect its the problem with colour reproduction, that what I assume is actually dark grey looks almost blue.  Makes an interesting alternative camouflage colour...

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Re: Aircraft Gun Systems and Gun Pods
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2014, 08:57:37 PM »
Sweet -16, Kitnut!  :) Any idea what you're going to do in terms of decals?

I had thought of using some F-4 decals, but not found any.  Anyone got a suggestion for a decal sheet I could use ? 1/72 of course ---

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Re: Aircraft Gun Systems and Gun Pods
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2014, 05:14:11 AM »
Sweet -16, Kitnut!  :) Any idea what you're going to do in terms of decals?

Since Euro 1 looks that good on the Viper, I suppose SEA wrap-around wouldn't look half-bad either....
I had thought of using some F-4 decals, but not found any.  Anyone got a suggestion for a decal sheet I could use ? 1/72 of course ---

That particular variant of the F-16 never appealed to me as I considered it a waste of a limited resource.  However with that being said, it did spur the development and fielding of the GE 30mm gun pod so that was nice as it then became a scale model in the Hasegawa weapons sets and showed up in the Revell 1:32nd scale F-15E kit.  So it did prove useful for modelers :)  I know ESCI did offer a 1:72nd scale model with the appropriate decals for the A-16/F-16 in the European One Camouflage Scheme.  If you happen to find that old and out of production kit you would have at the very least a reference to the markings and painting.  I may have seen that kit on the shelf recently at the Skyway Model Shop
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Re: Aircraft Gun Systems and Gun Pods
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2014, 09:09:48 AM »
30mm ADEN gun pods. The only one I know of is the Swedish one that was used on AJ-37 Viggens.

Were there any others?

(n.b. I mean generic pods that are hung on a pylon, not the aircraft-specific conformal pods mounted on Harriers and Hawks)
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Re: Aircraft Gun Systems and Gun Pods
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2014, 09:02:32 PM »
That particular variant of the F-16 never appealed to me as I considered it a waste of a limited resource.  However with that being said, it did spur the development and fielding of the GE 30mm gun pod so that was nice as it then became a scale model in the Hasegawa weapons sets and showed up in the Revell 1:32nd scale F-15E kit.  So it did prove useful for modelers :)  I know ESCI did offer a 1:72nd scale model with the appropriate decals for the A-16/F-16 in the European One Camouflage Scheme.  If you happen to find that old and out of production kit you would have at the very least a reference to the markings and painting.  I may have seen that kit on the shelf recently at the Skyway Model Shop.


Both the Monogram and Italeri 1/72 F-15E kits have the 30mm gun pod included and I have a couple of the Hasegawa weapons sets which have the pod too --

I could 'upgrade' my F/A-16 with one of them   ;)

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Re: Aircraft Gun Systems and Gun Pods
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2014, 04:15:57 AM »
30mm ADEN gun pods. The only one I know of is the Swedish one that was used on AJ-37 Viggens.

Were there any others?

(n.b. I mean generic pods that are hung on a pylon, not the aircraft-specific conformal pods mounted on Harriers and Hawks)


I can't think of any - it could be interesting to do something like the DEFA 30mm pod used on the MB339s though - perhaps on a Hawk?





Or perhaps like the PLAMEN PL-20 20mm twin barrel pod on the L-159:



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Re: Aircraft Gun Systems and Gun Pods
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2014, 04:37:51 AM »
Speaking of gun pods, this has to be one of the coolest looking:  The GUV-8700 Gun Pod has 2x GshG 7.62mm & 1x Yak-B 12.7mm:



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Re: Aircraft Gun Systems and Gun Pods
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2014, 04:44:15 AM »
And then there are the ones like the SPPU-22 with depressible guns:



Note that one can actually buy kits of these:

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Re: Aircraft Gun Systems and Gun Pods
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2014, 07:13:21 AM »
Here's an SPPU-22 on a Su-22 at the Luftwaffenmuseum in Berlin-Gatow. Note that the pod is pointing aft. At first I thought that to be a mistake, but then I was informed that it was actually possible to mount and operate it that way. Apparently it is possible to designate a certain point to be attacked using the aircraft's HUD. The pod will then calculate the shells' trajectories and adjust the barrels automatically to keep the shells on the desired point of impact. This also works with the pod pointed aft, firing the guns after passing the target. I think there were some limits, though, such as keeping the wings level and maintaining a certain speed.

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Re: Aircraft Gun Systems and Gun Pods
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2014, 10:15:45 AM »
The problem with those depressible gun pods was that the aircraft had to fly a pretty predictable course to make them work, which of course meant it was fairly easy meat for any defensive fire.  I understand it was more of a gimmick than anything and that the pilots preferred to lock them and fly their own attacks.

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Re: Aircraft Gun Systems and Gun Pods
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2014, 05:20:05 AM »
Something that gets revisited every once in a while: the trainable gunpod:



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Re: Aircraft Gun Systems and Gun Pods
« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2014, 09:46:59 AM »
I could see some use for that in A-to-A gunnery, if slaved to the radar and gun sight.  It'd give you a slight edge in a turning dogfight, being able to shoot that little bit more into the turn.

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Re: Aircraft Gun Systems and Gun Pods
« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2014, 08:41:29 PM »
The 'trainable' pod came into play with my CH-151 build (Mangusta), the helicopter has quite a 'tail-down' attitude when in the hover which meant a fixed gun pod wouldn't work as it would point upwards.  Being able to elevate the guns downwards while in this hovering mode opens the door for a lot of scenarios