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Offline ysi_maniac

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Lufthansa '46
« on: November 01, 2013, 05:39:56 PM »
What if germans were allowed to produce civil aircraft just after surrender? in 1946 for instance.

http://www.airwar1946.nl/whif/L46-JU290.htm

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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2013, 05:47:57 PM »
good question, i was thinking about "scale-o-rama"-ing a 1/48 Arado Ar234 into a 1/72 Jet Airliner some day  8)
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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2013, 11:27:18 PM »
good question, i was thinking about "scale-o-rama"-ing a 1/48 Arado Ar234 into a 1/72 Jet Airliner some day  8)



Someone made an "Aeroflot Octa": http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,5054.msg63350.html#msg63350


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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2013, 01:51:31 AM »
How about getting the Revell Arado E.555 flying wing and scaleorama'ing it to 1/144th or smaller by swapping the "greenhouse" cabin for one from a smaller scale airliner?
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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2013, 03:05:12 AM »
^^^^^
I do love this idea :)

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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2013, 03:29:11 AM »
Focke-Wulf Fw 300:

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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2013, 03:46:57 AM »
 Junkers Ju EF100:



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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2013, 03:53:25 AM »
Blohm & Voss P 200:


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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2013, 04:22:58 AM »
How about getting the Revell Arado E.555 flying wing and scaleorama'ing it to 1/144th or smaller by swapping the "greenhouse" cabin for one from a smaller scale airliner?

Lotz of airliner potential in that  :)

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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2013, 04:40:24 AM »
How about getting the Revell Arado E.555 flying wing and scaleorama'ing it to 1/144th or smaller by swapping the "greenhouse" cabin for one from a smaller scale airliner?


i think Boeing already did something like that  8)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-48

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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2013, 04:56:26 AM »
Of course the German people living in the remains of the war destroyed cities might
wonder why scarce resources are being used to build luxury intercontinental aircraft
of no use to people scrambling to simply survive.
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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2013, 05:19:31 AM »
The DC-109, based upon the DC-6 and the Bf-109?




No?

I used a 1/144 DC-6 and a 1/48 Hasegawa Bf-109 F for that fun  build. The upper deck, the "UberClass" section was added by fairing in the cockpit with a block of balsa. It give the plane a Coho salmon look.

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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2013, 05:58:22 AM »
Beautiful job Al. 
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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2013, 05:03:06 PM »
Thanks Greg for your posts. Good

Hi Alvis, your DC-109. I love it :) :-* :-*

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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2013, 05:10:36 PM »
If you scalorame an Ar-234 1/72 to 1/144 you get a Jet Metropolitan :D


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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2013, 05:40:39 PM »
This entire topic of Lufthansa '46 is cool  8)
All the designs are great  :)
Am in a state (besides Washington) of overwhelmedness where all are favorites  :-*
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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2013, 05:42:06 AM »
I'd suggest the craftspeople who were turning out FW-190 parts instead continue with Ju-52 parts instead and have Lufthansa Air Cargo (LuftLift???) contribute to the rebuilding of Europe.   
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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2013, 08:18:03 AM »
Just a thought, after the Allied victory, Ju-52/3M production continues, but with up-engined (R2600, R2800?) for better takeoff performance.  Definitely of use in rebuilding Europe and positive reparations (realistically, built at cost, no profit - but keeping people employed and money flowing).

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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2013, 12:13:26 PM »
Another option: 1200hp R-1830 engines as used on C-47 would be over 400hp per engine increase.

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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2013, 12:14:12 PM »
Thought of 1830's too.
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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2013, 01:46:40 PM »
Junkers factory was in Dessau, Saxony-Anhalt which was in the Russian zone, so re-opening it seems rather
unlikely.
 O0

Focke-Wulf was in Bremen, but continued bombing led to new facilities in eastern Germany and Poland.
See above for why that's a geo-political problem, also F-W used forced, slave and POW labour, so I
don't suppose those were the workers Darryl had in mind.
 :-X  O0

Ju 52 production did continue post-war in France and Spain.

R-2600 or R-2800 would be overkill on the Tante Ju. R-1820 or R-1830 more likely, and a pair of either
would suffice to replace the three BMW 132s. Swedish Ju 52 used P&W Wasp S3H1G(R-1340).


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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2015, 05:24:06 AM »
I'm thinking that my 1/72 Baade-152 is perfect for this scenario...
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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2015, 01:25:39 AM »
A couple of abortive pre-war long-range projects that might generate ideas.

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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2015, 12:47:12 AM »
I played with the idea of a Noratlas with the tip jets as a freighter.

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Re: Lufthansa '46
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2018, 07:08:58 PM »
Lots of interesting german projects in this site: http://www.flying-things.ch/air46.htm