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Re: Battleship Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2012, 12:18:58 PM »
Although probably not what Maverick has in mind, his monitor question brought me to the idea along the line of Matsushima class or even Courageous class light cruisers, small warships with big guns.  And Allied interpretations of the idea are likely to have better fire controls and DP secondaries compared to their Axis counterparts somewhere down the road......

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I am rather interested in the 16"/L50 gun that the Lexington class battlecruiser would have used...... the Wikipedia entry for the Iowa class battleship claimed that a Bureau of Ordnance actually came up with a preliminary design for a turret that could carry the 50 caliber guns in a barbette that could have fitted into the new battleship.  Does anyone know anything more about that preliminary design?  Such as how it looks like?
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Re: Battleship Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2012, 04:27:41 AM »
Hmmm...tempted to buy one of these:



As the starting point for a modern Stealthy Russian Battle Cruiser.
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Re: Battleship Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2012, 04:34:03 AM »
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Re: Battleship Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2012, 06:01:12 AM »
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Re: Battleship Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2012, 07:48:12 AM »
How about a little turn of the century whiffing?



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Re: Battleship Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2012, 02:53:07 AM »
Stealing an idea from the land world, why not use Explosive Reactive Armour (ERA) (see examples below) or one of its variations on modern warships as a counter to ASMs (which often have HEAT ty




If nothing else, it would certainly give a different look.

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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2012, 03:47:06 AM »
>If nothing else, it would certainly give a different look.<

Yes, like a "quilted" battleship!

I think a "problem" would be the flexing of a ship while at sea--a tank probably flexes very little.
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Re: Battleship Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2012, 04:08:19 AM »
Battleship-Carrier drawing is inspiring for a huge kit-bash.  Start with a 1/350 battleship hull to build 1/700 top side.  Or something like that.
If I had the skills and time..........

To take this further - Does someone make a 1/144 to 1/256 Arizona hull for r/c.?
The 1/144 would be ~1470ft  built as 1/350.
The 1/256 would be ~1594ft built as 1/700.
Could build an over the top massive Battleship-Carrier.  Pick your era, 1920's to today.
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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2012, 08:48:53 PM »
>If nothing else, it would certainly give a different look.<

Yes, like a "quilted" battleship!

I think a "problem" would be the flexing of a ship while at sea--a tank probably flexes very little.

There are rubberized soundproofing tiles coating most modern submarine hulls. These flex a lot going to depth and back again. A great trick done to show newbie submariners the principle of it all is to get a compartment that goes across the beam of the boat with subdivisions, usually a torpedo room or the crews' mess- and tie a string from one side to the other taut at eye level before the dive. At depth that string will be either sagging a few feet or even dragging on the deck.
   If there are welds or glues that can stand this, surely tiling a warship in chobham and reactives can be done. Of course there is a big difference between an RPG and those big excocet class ASM's! But you could place thick ones over the extreme vitals like the propulsion, magazines and officer's lounge...

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Re: Battleship Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2012, 02:41:32 AM »
Hey Bill,

Trumpeter make a 1/200th scale Arizona.

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Re: Battleship Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2012, 02:47:19 AM »
Random idea:  Tirpitz gets stripped down and turned into an early arsenal ship armed en masse with A-4/V-2 ballistic missiles and/or Fi-103/V-1 missiles.

Alternatively the same concept but using a fictitious third Bismarck class hull...or even a converted Graf Zeppelin.
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Re: Battleship Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2012, 12:42:57 PM »
Hmmm...tempted to buy one of these:



As the starting point for a modern Stealthy Russian Battle Cruiser.


Starting point ordered...in larger scale too!!!


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Re: Battleship Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2012, 01:37:20 PM »
As the starting point for a modern Stealthy Russian Battle Cruiser.

Starting point ordered...in larger scale too!!!


What is it with the larger scale? Instead of building in the One True ScaleTM (1/72), you build 1/48. Instead of the proper 1/700, it has to be 1/350!  :icon_ninja:

Some inspiration...

Project 21956 (eventual Sovremenny/Udaloy-replacement)



Project 22350 Admiral Gorshkov-class frigate



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Re: Battleship Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2012, 03:15:09 PM »

What is it with the larger scale? Instead of building in the One True ScaleTM (1/72), you build 1/48. Instead of the proper 1/700, it has to be 1/350!  :icon_ninja:


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Re: Battleship Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2012, 05:04:31 PM »
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Not having naval knowledge, per se, one wonders if a monitor type ship would be a capable design for open water?  I should think that its lower profile would be advantagous compared to a 'normal' ship from a concealment perspective providing one could waterproof the upper structure to prevent swamping.  In reality, it'd be almost like a surfaced submarine, but subs are infamous for low profiles compared to surface ships.



Well I believe there were some B Class Submarines that were converted to surface patrol boats

There was a class of Submarine Monitors built in WW1

so if you combine  the 2 ideas you could convert your M class to low profile seagoing monitors

Possibly as some kind of commerce raider i guess of just givent that they'd probably be faster than your conventional monitors to get coastal bomabardment capabilities off foreign shores quicker.