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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2013, 01:04:09 PM »
What? A Lightning shoulda be twin-engined? No problem for the Burnelli design team:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2013, 01:14:57 PM »
Far away from my naive dreams, I shoulda face the bloody urgency in 1945: fighting the Me-163 Komet transsonic fighter... This requires rocket and swept wings, Burnelli or not:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2013, 01:45:30 PM »
And from Burnelli's http://www.aerofiles.com/burnelli-wing.jpg I shoulda add:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2013, 04:20:16 PM »
What? I shoulda be more realist? and respect Burnelli's tailplane and contra-props? I fear I am unable to be realistic but any transformation is welcome:

(with 8 micro-engines...)

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2013, 04:35:00 PM »
What do you mean "micro-engines do not exist, Burnelli was designing a huge bomber"? Well I do not understand the meaning of "exist" and I dislike terror-bombing, but I woulda imagine a huge airliner with 8 normal engines:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2013, 05:20:19 PM »
What a shame!: Google found a Burnelli patent that was neither twin-boom nor flying wing but featuring a simple tail...
see http://hobby-maquettes.xooit.fr/t902-GRUMMAN-XF5-f1-SKYROCKET.htm
A Burnelli-Lightning shoulda match:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2013, 06:42:41 PM »
Fortunately, the Zwilling derivative restored the twin-boom layout of the Lightning:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2013, 06:59:54 PM »
A more compact derivative:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2013, 09:26:00 PM »
Of course, old archives explain that the Uppercu-Burnelli family UB came from the Remington-Burnelli family RB, but there has also been a RB-38, biplane
See http://www.aerofiles.com/burnelli-rb1.jpg
 

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2013, 09:32:23 PM »
From the biplane RB-38 woulda come the monoplane XUB-38:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2013, 09:35:37 PM »
And then the twin-boom YUB-38, now you know almost all of the Burnelli-Lightning...

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2013, 12:23:53 AM »
On Burnelli's main page http://www.burnelliaircraft.com/ is a true canard with lifting fuselage, and I shoulda make a connection with the Lightning:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2013, 12:25:04 AM »
And the twin-jet derivative:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2013, 12:26:03 AM »
Final: the rocket version:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2013, 01:23:43 AM »
There was not enough asymmetry in this topic of mine... I shoulda include more uncommon derivatives.
The UB-38O was a Flying Observation Post:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2013, 01:36:44 AM »
In 1946 there coulda/woulda/shoulda be a jet derivative of the UB-38O:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2013, 03:02:26 AM »
Without asymmetry, the result was less sexy:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2013, 01:20:49 PM »
The rocket derivative was even better for tourism:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2013, 01:39:27 PM »
I don't like my national colours (too bright) but as long as this is for tourism, it's OK:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2013, 01:54:11 PM »
Even better with jets at wingtips:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #45 on: August 25, 2013, 03:42:38 PM »
In the new Trait d'Union magazine (#270) is an article about the Turboclair ground device made with French Vampire. A Burnelli-Lightning derivative would have been efficient (against fog) for a much longer duration:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2013, 04:25:51 PM »
A twin-"plane" would have an improved volume coverage:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #47 on: August 25, 2013, 04:35:04 PM »
A simplified (twin-boom) version:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #48 on: August 25, 2013, 06:00:06 PM »
Far from ground devices, the very first designs of jet-aircraft had to deal with 2 commands : several units as the power was low, lots of tank room because jets were eating much. The Burnelli layout was good for that:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #49 on: August 25, 2013, 06:22:37 PM »
Burnelli Lightning pulse-jet fighter: