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Burnelli UB-38
« on: August 21, 2013, 11:44:09 PM »
As Lockheed, with its P-38 design, failed to reach the long-range specifications, the Burnelli company modified it with much more room for fuel: UB-38.
Trans-Pacific ability!

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2013, 12:03:35 AM »
I think I will have to modify the leading edge, with the help of http://www.jitterbuzz.com/manreal/burnelli_01.jpg

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2013, 12:13:49 AM »
Improved version (able to fly!):

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2013, 12:35:28 AM »
The UB-38 (then improved UB-38A) was the "real" part, but Ing. Burnelli then said this plane coulda/woulda/shoulda have radial engines like his UB-14B: this led to the UB-38B...

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2013, 01:44:29 AM »
My son Jacky disapproved this design UB-38B and required the tail to be removed, and the colour to be changed (shoulda!): UB-38J

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2013, 02:11:36 AM »
Engineer Jacky, 4 years old, required less realistic colours, and I added a canard tailplane for balance...

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2013, 01:58:51 PM »
As the foreplane denied the "flying wing" name on the UB-38K, we coulda/woulda/shoulda add fins for better control: UB-38L

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2013, 10:54:01 PM »
Cooperation with my little son goes on, do you adults have other improvement ideas?

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2013, 12:20:30 AM »
To take off with trans-Pacific fuel, 3 engines might have been necessary:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2013, 12:31:41 AM »
With a very long runway and reduced drag, one engine might have been enough at last...

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2013, 01:08:57 AM »
With a bigger engine and even reduced drag, this gave the UB-38MD (Minimum Drag):

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2013, 02:07:57 AM »
A derivative of the former, more balanced when the tanks are empty: UB-38ME

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2013, 02:19:39 AM »
UB-38MF: reduced drag did not mean two engines were forbidden (to have a free nose)

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2013, 06:34:09 PM »
With a bigger engine and even reduced drag, this gave the UB-38MD (Minimum Drag):
Wrong! A Lightning cannot be single engined! A Zwilling may cure the problem, even in the flying wing family:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2013, 06:53:39 PM »
Increased range on this version:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2013, 07:07:39 PM »
A more compact, slightly asymmetric version:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2013, 12:25:57 AM »
My wife cooperated also: this is the UB-38A-3:

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2013, 12:34:59 AM »
Super long range version (if able to take off): UB-38A-1

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2013, 12:45:50 AM »
The UB-38A-2 was different from the UB-38A in having its 2 engines on the centerline. The rear one was shut down after take off to save fuel.

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2013, 12:57:08 AM »
For very long subsonic flights over the Pacific, two pilots shoulda be there...

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2013, 01:23:06 AM »
Made by Burnelli or not, a Lightning shoulda be twin-boom, not triplex-boom...

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2013, 01:39:24 AM »
Without huge tailplane, does this one count as quadruple boom?

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2013, 07:33:00 AM »
Tophe and the Amazing Technicolor Lightning Whif!  ;D

I'm kinda partial to the triple-engined one your wife inspired and to the single-engined one derived from that.  :)
Cheers,
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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2013, 10:21:41 AM »
Thanks for your answer... Do you have other ideas for a Burnelli Lightning?

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Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2013, 12:57:39 PM »
Google pictures, for "Burnelli", finds immediately a jet-Burnelli patent at http://www.mysteriesofcanada.com/Canada/Canada_Car/burnelli_designs.htm
So... here is a Burnelli Jet-Lightning: