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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2012, 08:39:39 PM »
There was a real-life proposal for a J-79 engined Crusader. IIRC, it was offered for the export fighter requirement that was eventually met by the F-5E.

Those Paladins I posted earlier are supposed to be powered by afterburning Speys, hence the deepened intakes.
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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2012, 02:25:02 AM »
There was a real-life proposal for a J-79 engined Crusader. IIRC, it was offered for the export fighter requirement that was eventually met by the F-5E.



That would be the Vought IFA V-1000 or the Super V-1000 (I'm a little unclear which exactly was the J-79 powered version - will check more):

1 x J79-GE-17 turbojet, 8120kgf
Span: 10.9m
Length: 16.7mHeight: 4.96m

Wing Area: 49.2 sq m
Empty Weight: 8200kg
Fuel: 2940kg
Warload: 2720kg
MTOW, intercept mission: 11790kg
Max Speed: Mach 1.7
Takeoff run: 600m
Ceiling: 18045m
Radius of action: 510km
Armament: 2 x 20 mm M39, 2 x AIM-9



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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2012, 02:45:28 PM »
I am pretty certain our very own Sentinel Chicken did a VG Crusader a few years ago.  Maybe he will repost it here.


Found it:




Oh no what have you done Sentinel Chicken  :o
You have taken one of my favourite simple and easily maintainable fighters and given it the VG wing :-\
Too much weight and complexity  :-\

(But a great effort as usual  ;) )

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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2012, 02:48:46 PM »
A few new ideas:

  • JASDF F-8
  • South Korean F-8
  • South Vietnamese F-8
  • Taiwanese F-8
  • Canadian F-8
  • Wild Weasel Twosader
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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2012, 09:53:13 AM »
Like these CAF F-8s?





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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2012, 11:45:42 AM »
Yep
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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2012, 03:57:05 PM »
Canadian Navy seems to be missing.  By intention or accident? 
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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2012, 07:53:58 PM »
Good question. I looked in my profile stash and I don't have any.

Chris, John: you up to the challenge?
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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2012, 02:34:25 AM »
Several years ago, I did up a Luftwaffe Crusader in a splinter version of the wraparound camo their Tornados used to have back in the 80s.

I didn't do any real radical changes to it, but stuck an LRMTS type blister under the fuselage between the intake lip and forward gear bay and hung a smaller Paveway laser bomb under each wing.
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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2012, 02:41:58 AM »
Several years ago, I did up a Luftwaffe Crusader in a splinter version of the wraparound camo their Tornados used to have back in the 80s.

I didn't do any real radical changes to it, but stuck an LRMTS type blister under the fuselage between the intake lip and forward gear bay and hung a smaller Paveway laser bomb under each wing.

Any pics?
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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2012, 07:03:36 AM »
John also did a USN F-8 with AIM-54s but I cannot find it.
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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2012, 02:29:37 PM »
John also did a USN F-8 with AIM-54s but I cannot find it.

WHAT!!!!
Wow I must have missed that  :icon_crap:
Wow what a payload for the Crusader!!
Did he put a big radome on it to fit the AWG-9 radar?
Or was it intended to simply be a delivery-truck of sorts - so as to get the missiles into the air, whence the F-14 Tomcat's of the fleet would illuminate and track the targets?
 
One thing is for sure - the pilot would not afford to carry his toothbrush!! For it would brake the Camels back  ;) 

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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2012, 03:53:45 PM »
Several years ago, I did up a Luftwaffe Crusader in a splinter version of the wraparound camo their Tornados used to have back in the 80s.

I didn't do any real radical changes to it, but stuck an LRMTS type blister under the fuselage between the intake lip and forward gear bay and hung a smaller Paveway laser bomb under each wing.

Any pics?

Sadly, no pics. The camera I had at the time wasn't up to taking pics of models. :(
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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2012, 07:43:36 PM »
John also did a USN F-8 with AIM-54s but I cannot find it.

WHAT!!!!
Wow I must have missed that  :icon_crap:
Wow what a payload for the Crusader!!
Did he put a big radome on it to fit the AWG-9 radar?
Or was it intended to simply be a delivery-truck of sorts - so as to get the missiles into the air, whence the F-14 Tomcat's of the fleet would illuminate and track the targets?
 
One thing is for sure - the pilot would not afford to carry his toothbrush!! For it would brake the Camels back  ;) 

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I won an ESCI F-8E as part of a lot win and I have some Hasegawa AIM-54s so ... dump into blender, puree for 10 minutes and pour onto the deck.  ;D

My thoughts were the F-14 airframe/wings/engines etc were taking too long to integrate so they took the working AWG-9, put it in a rather large pod, mounted on it on a inboard pylon, added a RIO GIB (John's profile showed this via an itty-bitty window) and mount the AIM-54s on the other 3 available pylons.

I looked at putting the AWG-9 on the airframe but the cross section is BIG. I'd have to move the engine intake which defeats the purpose of a stop-gap solution.

And yes they pulled out the gun out to fit the in RIO. Let's call it a stop gap just to get the AIM-54 into the field. Hmmm, I wonder if there is room for a GEPOD-30?

John: Can I add this to your queue. I don't know what why I don't have a copy of your work.  :icon_crap:

 
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Re: Vought F-8 Crusader Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2012, 08:41:29 PM »
There you go Carl.



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John
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