Author Topic: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al  (Read 11410 times)

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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2015, 03:16:19 AM »





That gun looks quite a bit like the German WWII 30mm put in the Me262, is there a connection ?

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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2015, 04:09:34 AM »

That gun looks quite a bit like the German WWII 30mm put in the Me262, is there a connection ?


Nope, the XM140 was an electrically driven gun. The Mk108 used in the 262 was a blowback weapon.

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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2015, 06:01:03 AM »

That gun looks quite a bit like the German WWII 30mm put in the Me262, is there a connection ?


Nope, the XM140 was an electrically driven gun. The Mk108 used in the 262 was a blowback weapon.

http://www.bevfitchett.us/machine-gun-v5/philcoford-corporation-1.html


Thanks, I think what I was thinking of was the short barrel and the flat sided flash suppressor, I've got a resin 1/72 Mk.108 set that looks remarkably like it.

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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2015, 08:21:28 AM »



There is a guy in a silly hat & slightly too-small overalls looking fa-ar too serious! ;D

Another interesting one - this time a UH-1B with 20mm Hispano-Suiza HS.820




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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2015, 09:19:54 PM »
Another interesting one - this time a UH-1B with 20mm Hispano-Suiza HS.820




You get the feeling, sometimes, that some people just don't know when to stop, really. :o


Rhodesia, Malaysia, Portugal and South Africa all used side-firing 20mm cannons from Alouette IIIs, which are smaller than a Huey. The guns were mostly MG 151s, which France also used on Piasecki H-21s and Sikorsky S-58s in Algeria:






The GIAT M621 20mm has a helo door mount as a standard option (SH20 mount) often seen on Pumas:




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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2015, 11:37:36 PM »
Interesting, I wonder if a Kiowa, or for that matter, Cayuse, Wasp or Gazelle could be fitted with 20mm in such a way.  It would look cool on an Army or Navy Lynx, or Seahawk, the Blackhawk or for that matter the Chinook, Stallion, or Super Stallion would look great with a pair of them. ;D

What would be good, but maybe difficult to model, would be a mount that permits the gunner reasonable arcs of fire but also permits the gun to be locked in the forward position for the pilot to aim and fire.
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2015, 02:10:46 AM »
I've seen a proposal to fit a cannon that large, or larger, to the Seahawk for mine-clearing purposes in shallow water.  You might could do the same for an UH-1Y.

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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2015, 02:34:15 AM »
I've seen a proposal to fit a cannon that large, or larger, to the Seahawk for mine-clearing purposes in shallow water.  You might could do the same for an UH-1Y.

30mm ATK firing finned, super cavitating ammunition if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2015, 11:29:03 AM »
Don't know about sideways firing, but there's a side-mounted, forwards firing M621 installation for the Gazelle and a belly-mounted Rh.202 fit for the Bo.105. I think the main problem with a Gazelle or Bo.105 would be space for the gunner to move about. It looks pretty tight in the Alouette III (note that the gunner's seat has him practically out of the opposite door!) and a Gazelle is significantly smaller overall, and narrower in particular.
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2015, 04:55:40 AM »
Interesting shot - I haven't seen too many Huey's with floats...especially Australian ones:

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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2017, 11:23:38 PM »
Do the resident Rotorheads know what Bell was smoking when they built the 533?  ;D





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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2017, 11:38:28 PM »
Airwolf!

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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2017, 09:42:27 AM »
Remove the tail boom.
What remains of the fuselage is the head and abdomen.  Add a thorax, 6 mechanical insect legs and you have the basis for a Sci Fi Cyberbug.
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2017, 10:42:01 PM »
Remove the tail boom.
What remains of the fuselage is the head and abdomen.  Add a thorax, 6 mechanical insect legs and you have the basis for a Sci Fi Cyberbug.

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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #44 on: January 16, 2017, 11:44:19 AM »
I love the 533 in all its forms! I once bashed one into life from a Monogram SnapTite Huey, some balsa wings and 1/144 A-10 engines! I have a 1/48 Huey Hog awaiting the 533 treatment, but done better this time around.
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