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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2013, 06:26:32 AM »
How cool is that?  8)



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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2013, 04:25:15 PM »
Very!  I am already picturing one in ADF colours...
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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2013, 06:06:52 PM »
Very!  I am already picturing one in ADF colours...

Ditto! 8)

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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2013, 01:44:12 AM »
Maybe also with 120mm main gun... ;)

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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2013, 05:56:33 AM »
Bit tight in there, only midgets for RAAC!

Mmmm.....upgraded Leos ones to the CAV as DFS and heavier M-1s to support the infantry.

Re: Takom Models
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2013, 11:24:21 AM »
Oh my! The C2 MEXAS is my favorite Leo 1 variant, so this is a "must buy". :-*

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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2013, 06:46:44 PM »
Bit tight in there, only midgets for RAAC!

You already have to be a midget to be the driver in a Leopard 1.  Can't be over 5'8" and I'm that height and found it rather cramped when I tried it out.

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Mmmm.....upgraded Leos ones to the CAV as DFS and heavier M-1s to support the infantry.

What no independent armoured regimental operations?  ;)

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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2013, 09:58:26 PM »
Interesting you should mention that, a mate of mine from my old unit was a Leopard driver and he was 5'11" or slightly taller (I'm 5'10" and he is taller than me) but he was thin as a rake.  I was just looking at the amount of space the 120mm breach took up in the turret.

I've given up on independent armoured ops in Australia, governments think its costs too much so don't buy enough gear to ever do it. :icon_sueno:

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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2013, 02:34:18 AM »
Never-the-less, the 120mm upgrade was a real proposition for Leo 1s (not necessarily the ARA ones).
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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2013, 01:07:30 PM »
Interesting you should mention that, a mate of mine from my old unit was a Leopard driver and he was 5'11" or slightly taller (I'm 5'10" and he is taller than me) but he was thin as a rake.  I was just looking at the amount of space the 120mm breach took up in the turret.

I had to scrunch my head down (sans helmet) when I sat in the seat and I lowered it as much as possible.  With a helmet it wouldn't have been comfortable for long periods.

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True.  We do have ideal country for it though.  The Cav. Rgts could do it, if they were allowed to.

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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2013, 04:49:06 PM »
I hear you, this kit would be not so much a WIFF as a should have been.  Out of 90 gun tanks originally bought I believe there were 70 or so left once the Abrams entered service.  They would have made a very nice 2nd or reserve Regiment as well as providing vehicles and hulls for the creation of an armoured engineering capability. 

A favourite option of mine, although it would never happen, would have been to upgrade the Leos and issue them to reg and reserve units as independent Direct Fire Support Troops and Squadrons.  A Squadron to each CAV Regt and a Troop to each CAV Squadron and a squadron to each of the Mech Infantry Btns.

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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2013, 03:29:49 AM »
My thinking is that rather than getting M1s, the ARA is forced to go with a "cheaper" option of upgrading the Leo1s.  They give them a major hull overhaul , possibly a new/improved engine, MEXAS armour, new fire control system, new 120mm gun etc, etc…

The result would be a Leo1 for the 21st century!
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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2013, 08:19:58 AM »
Nice.

I was told by an ex 2CAV recruiter in the early 90s that the plan was with the move of 1BDE north the Govt was going to fork out for a 2nd Regiment to be equipped with M-1A2s to be based in Darwin and 1 Armd would remain in Puka with the Leopards.  Made sense as the pams at the time always referred to a second armoured regt. that didn't actually exist.

Now with 1 Armd keeping the Leos an upgrade to standardise gun and ammo would make sense.

Being ex Light Horse myself I would still like to see MBTs embedded in those units too.  Maybe a follow up purchase of Abrams free up the upgraded Leos and the amalgamated LH regiments are dis-amalgamated to give a home to the now surplus tanks, i.e. 3/9 LH (SAMR) becomes 3 LH and 9 H (Horse) ;D

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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2013, 09:14:30 AM »
Under my scenario, there would be no ARA M1s...I just need a new designation of the upgraded tank.  Maybe Leopard 1A6 (AS.2)?
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Re: Takom Models
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2013, 09:31:59 AM »
Let's continue the rest of this discussion here
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