Author Topic: Beyond '46 Rules  (Read 9481 times)

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Beyond '46 Rules
« on: April 27, 2013, 08:26:50 AM »
1.  This GB allows anything that can fit between 1946 and 1952 as an extension of WWII.
    This includes all forms of military things.
    If you're unsure, file a proposal with the OOD and it will be taken under advisement.
    We will be more inclusive with subject than with time frame (Beyond '46 is a lot of years!).

2.  Duration is May 1 - June 30 with a 2 week extension available if needed.
    Speak up if you want one when the time comes.

3.  Be creative people!!!  Blow the box wide open and leave it in the rear view!

4.  Physical builds, profiles, stories, and any combination thereof will all be accepted.
    Collaborations are welcomed and encouraged.

5.  Partially constructed builds will be subject to approval prior to their inclusion.
    We want to be inclusive in this issue.

6.  Posting entries in appropriate thread is responsibility of participants.

7.  When in doubt ask! We are jetboy and ysi_maniac.

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2013, 09:01:13 AM »
Your comments, please.

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2013, 09:41:02 AM »
I like those rules...I wonder why?  ;)

I vote for an extension now!  All those in favor say I please  ;D

They sound good to me man, honestly.  Can't wait for it to start.
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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2013, 01:35:44 PM »
Looks fine to me.
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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2013, 02:57:42 PM »
Sounds reasonable.
Some other GB threads mention "build threads". Is that required, or is the final result what you primarily want to see?

I have some airplane drawings that I could redesign to fit the timeframe. Something like the turning of Yak-3 into Yak-15, which happened in the real-world. I'm assuming that this will be acceptable.

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2013, 05:48:37 PM »
Sounds reasonable.
Some other GB threads mention "build threads". Is that required, or is the final result what you primarily want to see?
"build threads" are not needed but encouraged.

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I have some airplane drawings that I could redesign to fit the timeframe. Something like the turning of Yak-3 into Yak-15, which happened in the real-world. I'm assuming that this will be acceptable.
It is acceptable. But remember that real-world is absolutely unacceptable. ???

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2013, 05:57:03 PM »
It is acceptable. But remember that real-world is absolutely unacceptable. ???
No fear of that. The drawings that I have in mind are already pretty firmly on the imaginary side of things, and changes to fit '46 will make them even more so....

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2013, 06:37:19 PM »
Hi chaps/chappesse,s?....Im looking forward,to your idea,s for this one,we need suprising with,your idea,s i love a good read,im,having a word with carlos,about as its my first mod on your gb,s,ive got some prizes,lying around,for the best/intresting projects,which i,ll have a word with top brass,about that,so come on,im intrigued already?
cheers and best wishes...Don...jetboy....

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2013, 09:05:42 PM »
Oh, another question.
Do the WW2 powers have to be aligned as in real-world, or are radical alternative history realignments allowed/encouraged?

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2013, 04:50:57 AM »
Sounds reasonable.
Some other GB threads mention "build threads". Is that required, or is the final result what you primarily want to see?
"build threads" are not needed but encouraged.

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I have some airplane drawings that I could redesign to fit the timeframe. Something like the turning of Yak-3 into Yak-15, which happened in the real-world. I'm assuming that this will be acceptable.
It is acceptable. But remember that real-world is absolutely unacceptable. ???  Sorry, my fault, Carlos doesn't mean real world is unacceptable. We would much prefer it if your imaginations just ran wild :) But any world will be accepted. I'll just check with Carlos but I think he just misunderstood what I said as English isn't his first language. Cheers, Don

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2013, 09:16:00 AM »
Oh, another question.
Do the WW2 powers have to be aligned as in real-world, or are radical alternative history realignments allowed/encouraged?

At any moment from 1946 to 1952 alignments can change, of course.

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2013, 06:55:47 AM »
If I am reading the rules right,it is a W.W.2 build for if the war went on until 1952?
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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2013, 10:04:22 AM »
I think so.

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2013, 10:40:35 AM »
If I am reading the rules right,it is a W.W.2 build for if the war went on until 1952?

Woo hoo DH Seahornets and Seamosquitos, Seafangs and Sturgeons flying off Malta Class carriers ;D

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2013, 04:34:03 PM »
Are civilian subjects allowed? I've got some airliner ideas that would fit the timeframe.

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2013, 12:37:35 AM »
Cvilian no.

But an airliner can be military, even painted in white. I think that your creativity will conceive something really amazing for us. :) :)

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2013, 02:23:11 AM »
No civilian? Why not? Many airlines continued operations of some sort during WWII in the RW, so
why wouldn't they in this continuation fantasy?

BOAC for one used converted Wellington bombers and, of course, they had the famous
Ball-Bearing Run Mosquitos. In both cases the aircraft were in RAF cammo with civil
codes. They also used several other types in similar schemes.

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2013, 07:49:13 AM »
Many thanks for the clarification, Mr Ysi!

I look forward to having a lot of fun playing along with this GB!

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2013, 03:50:30 PM »
What about this?



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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2013, 06:16:13 PM »
What about this?



Click on image for more details.


I dare you to build that. ;D
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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2013, 10:09:57 PM »
What about this?



Click on image for more details.


That's killer, Mr GTX! I might be able to do something similar in 1/288 scale.

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2013, 04:05:17 AM »
I been eyeballing those myself !!!  Those are so Kool !!!!!!   Where did you get the pictures ? I didn't see those on the Unicraft website or on FantasticPlastic either ??? I been thinking of trying some of those kits from Unicraft but haven't yet. I've heard they were good kits but don't know anybody who has bought one.
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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2013, 04:07:54 AM »
The pics as you can see by the link are simply on the Unicraft site. 

If anyone else wants to do this though go for it - I am working on another idea...
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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2013, 04:16:37 AM »
Last time I looked or its because I'm on my smart phone and you are using a computer ... ?
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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2013, 04:25:19 AM »
Last time I looked or its because I'm on my smart phone and you are using a computer ... ?

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2013, 04:29:17 AM »
I been eyeballing those myself !!!  Those are so Kool !!!!!!   Where did you get the pictures ? I didn't see those on the Unicraft website or on FantasticPlastic either ??? I been thinking of trying some of those kits from Unicraft but haven't yet. I've heard they were good kits but don't know anybody who has bought one.

Ennis, the kit subjects are good, but the kits can be a real challenge.  I've got a few of Igor's creations and with a bit of work they do clean up good.

This one below is half an Unicraft kit, it's a conversion to make the RR Griffon mid-engined Mustang, you get all the fuselage stuff, the wings come from a donor kit.

Thinking about it, this would fit into the beyond '46 nicely but it would have been more like the bottom pic, I was told by David Birch (the official RR Historian) that had it flown it would have had a Tempest tail fitted. I've also modelled this to have a RR Crecy engine installed, this was to be a 5000 hp 2-Stoke engine. EDIT: That should read, a 5000 hp, 2-Stroke, V-12, sleeve valve engine with an exhaust turbine to boot.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2013, 04:41:13 AM by kitnut617 »

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2013, 12:32:31 PM »
Thanks for the info,my friends,I checked after I read the post and found they had changed it since I last was there !!! They added several new kits and more pictures as well.  I've built resin kits before and they can range from equal to or better to crap and anything inbetween . I've made masters for resin kits before so I know that it's mostly up to the caster than the master maker.  I've got too many things to finish before I can start anything else but I'm ordering some soon anyway !!!   LOL!!!  I'm just wondering if I want to order direct or thru Fantastic Plastic. Not really worried about either just depends on cost. 
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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2013, 09:31:10 PM »
I'm just wondering if I want to order direct or thru Fantastic Plastic. Not really worried about either just depends on cost.

Having just dealt with Allen at Fantastic Plastic I can thoroughly recommended him

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2013, 12:57:15 AM »
I'm just wondering if I want to order direct or thru Fantastic Plastic. Not really worried about either just depends on cost.

I've ordered directly from Igor and the models showed up within a month. This was back when he was forcing styrene into his molds by hand (a few pieces had fingerprints molded into the plastic) and one side was charred. The quality was pretty bad. Some of his earlier resin kits were not very good either, but that may have been due to the late 90's resins he had available.

Some of his newer models seem closer to average in quality.

I would get them through Allen, especially if he has the kits in stock and you need it NOW.

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2013, 07:18:32 AM »
Thanks for the info ,guys. I've discovered that he has made some changes in his website and added some things. I'm using Fantastic Plastic for my first buy. I'm just trying to decide on what I want !!!   One idea I had was getting the turbo conversion and the Falcon wings for an FW-190.  I'm also wanting the Heilofly III /57. Now that would be Kool to have in real life,too.  Soon as I've built something you will be seeing it here.
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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2013, 12:11:13 AM »
I've been doodling on an early jet design drawing but the prototype (so far finished part of the "build") ended up in 1945.
Can that be considered part of my "entry", or should it remain a part of the "build"?
I do have a follow up in mind, that will go beyond 1946.

http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=3248.0

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2013, 12:32:24 AM »
Go on ...! :) :D

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12 DAYS to FINISH
« Reply #32 on: June 18, 2013, 08:05:29 AM »
Hi People,
Just 12 days to Finish!!! :o

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2013, 08:17:21 AM »
Shall we then discuss the terms of an extension sir?
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Re: 12 DAYS to FINISH
« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2013, 11:20:33 AM »
Hi People,
Just 12 days to Finish!!! :o

Yeah.. struggling a bit due to being in the USA for 3 weeks on holidays...if an extension is available I would be grateful and so would my Turbine Panther

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2013, 12:14:23 AM »
I already put an entry in Profiles, so I don't need an extension.
BUT.
If we can be pretty sure that there will be more entries with an extension, let's have the extension.

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2013, 12:25:47 AM »
I'll certainly have a profile entry and more than likely a physical one as well with an extension.
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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2013, 04:02:15 AM »
I wouldn't mind an extension. Not at all. No sir....

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2013, 04:16:56 PM »
with the 2-week extention, i might be able to build a second entry  8)
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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2013, 02:39:08 AM »
OK, we got a 2 week extension. This GB will finish French national day: 14 Julliet

Definitive final date is: July 14th

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2013, 02:41:18 AM »
Alright!!!  Thank you  :)
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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2013, 03:39:53 AM »
Gracias, Senor GB moderator!

Bastille Day seems very appropriate somehow.

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #42 on: July 06, 2013, 03:59:01 AM »
Only about a week to go... >:(
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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2013, 10:56:48 AM »
Only about a week to go... >:(

yes.. panic is setting in.
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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2013, 04:21:26 PM »
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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2013, 05:02:16 AM »
regarding the end date of the GB, is that in the morning, or at 11.59PM?
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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #46 on: July 12, 2013, 02:33:11 PM »
I think there's entries in their own threads - but not posted in the "Finished Entries" threads...

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2013, 08:04:00 PM »
regarding the end date of the GB, is that in the morning, or at 11.59PM?

I'm hoping we get until 11:59 PM July 14th in our respective time zones. I still need to finish up paint, decals and backstory on mine!

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #48 on: July 15, 2013, 09:54:58 PM »
 I don't suppose we could get, ah...one more week? I'm really, really close...

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2013, 10:05:58 PM »
Game over!

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2013, 11:13:46 PM »
 Well, that would be "no", then.

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #51 on: July 16, 2013, 05:21:42 AM »
I am very sorry but I think that this is a general rule for every  GB.

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #52 on: July 16, 2013, 07:29:44 AM »
Unfortunately, computer issues kept me from getting my last entry in.

Still, I had a blast playing along!

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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #53 on: July 21, 2013, 05:23:46 AM »
Is it time yet?
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Re: Beyond '46 Rules
« Reply #54 on: July 25, 2013, 02:14:31 AM »
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