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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #510 on: September 20, 2017, 12:23:04 AM »
A V-22 done that way might work.  You would need to be careful, though, to keep the floats out of the areas swept by the prop-rotors.

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #511 on: September 20, 2017, 12:39:53 AM »
Or just tilt the rotors, rather than the engines and rotors.





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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #513 on: September 20, 2017, 06:07:16 AM »
Well, yeah as those are all Bell concepts. ;D
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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #514 on: September 20, 2017, 06:17:51 AM »
Bell tilt rotor style ???

http://www.ainonline.com/sites/default/files/uploads/2015/02/webbell_v-280-3-24x16-fast-rope.jpg

I believe that's the V280, like the V280-style redesign I suggested on Monday for adding amphibious capability.

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #515 on: September 20, 2017, 10:53:01 AM »
A V-22 done that way might work.  You would need to be careful, though, to keep the floats out of the areas swept by the prop-rotors.

If they were located under the wings and didn't project fore and aft of the wing, it would work IMO.

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #516 on: September 23, 2017, 03:10:41 AM »
A V-22 done that way might work.  You would need to be careful, though, to keep the floats out of the areas swept by the prop-rotors.

If they were located under the wings and didn't project fore and aft of the wing, it would work IMO.
Yeah, but you are going to need them projecting forward for balance when floating (a matter of stability when at rest); be far easier to set them far enough down to be fully out of the prop-rotors' arcs under the most severe external environments.

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #517 on: September 23, 2017, 03:30:39 AM »
Use the Ursinus Fighter or Blackburn B-20 solution.  ;)





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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #518 on: November 17, 2017, 12:10:37 PM »
Carl - an idea for the Falcon 10 kit... perhaps a 72nd Osprey could be scale bashed?

https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/ba609-tiltrotor-3d-model/448892


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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #519 on: January 08, 2018, 06:30:40 AM »
Kees Kupyer has struck again!  This time by creating a Twin Otter Tilt-Rotor:


(Image source: ARC Silly Week 2018 > 1/72 Revell VTOL Otter by Kees Kupyer)

Click on the thumbnail image to visit the article and to view the larger images that Kees has shared. 
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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #520 on: April 23, 2018, 11:05:14 PM »
How about a kit bashing between the V-22 Osprey and the Grumman Albatross?

Albatross fuselage sans wing mated to the entire wing assembly of the V-22 Osprey to create a tilt-rotor amphibian.  The wing mounted floats from the Albatross will need to be located on the Osprey wing somewhere near the engines I suspect.  Reality check about suitability for actual flight to be ignored.

1:72nd scale Revell (former Monogram) SA-16 Albatross kit with the aforementioned parts from the HobbyCraft, Italeri, ESCI, or Hasegawa V-22 kits, depending on your ability to afford this project.

1:144th scale now has a V-22 kit but I am not aware of any Albatross in this scale.

1;48th scale Trumpeter Albatross and of course the Testors'/Italeri V-22 kit if you really want to spend some money.   
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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #521 on: April 24, 2018, 11:52:57 AM »
A-Model do a series of 1/144 scale HU-16 Albatrosses.

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #522 on: April 24, 2018, 12:08:34 PM »
I would probably go with moving the floats to sponsons off the fuselage rather than leaving them on the wing.  Something you would need to be careful of is how far the aircraft sits in the water so that the exhausts don't get submerged while floating (as an alternative, modifiy the IRS so that the exhaust is redirected out the side with blocker panels and similar moving pieces, similar to the thrust reverser set-ups on several airliner nacelles - a few scribed lines could indicate this on the model).

Given that the V-22 wing and center section is manufactured as one large assembly, attaching it to the top of the Albatross would take some careful plastic surgery but is doable.

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #523 on: April 25, 2018, 05:04:30 AM »
You could also go the Tilt wing way:

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #524 on: July 07, 2018, 05:55:38 AM »
In an effort to create a topic on the V-22 Osprey I have taken the liberty of making Carl's (TheBigGimper) post to this topic the OP for the new discussion topic to be focused solely on the V-22 Osprey Tilt-Rotor and the variations of that airframe that are now in production and service. 

New topic is at this link: V-22 Osprey Tilt-Rotor
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