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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2012, 03:40:50 AM »
Now if only we had a 1/48 XV-15 kit...
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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2012, 03:41:25 AM »
If you slimmed the tip pods down to just the rotor then the roof engines could stay put.

You could follow the line down from the top of the intake to the top of the exhaust outlet.

Yeah, I dd think of that...may yet do for future variation.
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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2012, 07:35:46 AM »
More Bell concepts.


Military transport


Civil aircraft aimed at the off-shore oil rig support market


CTR-22C (V-22 derived, new fuselage, 39 passengers)


CTR-800 (XV-15 derived)
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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2012, 07:38:31 AM »
Bell continued ...




19 passenger transport.
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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2012, 07:41:32 AM »
... Bell finale.






75 passenger transport, note that the third pic is of a version with a V-tail and canard like the CTR-1900.
Evidently this configuration had the least drag.
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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2012, 07:51:48 AM »
Oh, my. Some of those are positively...well, inspiring! I agree that a XV-15 kit would be awesome. So many possibilities...

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2012, 09:40:50 AM »
D-326 looks like a big brother to what is now the Agusta A609 (formerly Bell-Agusta BA609).  One of the more interesting ones is the D-300 which was an iteration toward what became the XV-15, it looks very much like a long MU-2, with the short MU-2 main gear, with the XV-15 wing (appropriately enough, the Aerophile article on the XV-15 shows that Boeing's entry was based on using a long MU-2 fuselage).  It's a temptation to get the resources together to model that one.

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2012, 01:48:56 PM »
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One thing I've always wondered about these is whether they can fire any wing-mounted weapons with the rotors in plane-mode? I bought an Anigrand XV-15 with the intention of bashing it with a lot of AH-1W parts. I'm still wondering how to mount the weapons. Could you fire a Hydra 70, TOW or Hellfire "synchronised" through the rotor?  :o And if you can't, wouldn't it be a terrible waste of energy to have to go into hover mode every time you employ your weapons?
My solution is to use the wing for drop-tanks or bombs only. Anything powered will go on pylons down the fuselage sides, with slightly chopped rotor blades.
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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2012, 04:05:51 PM »
jcf, you are absolutely, positively a "miracle worker", indeed, as your signature implies!!

These three-view arrangements are out of this world. Can you tell us where you scanned them from?

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2012, 01:17:18 PM »
Hmm, just a thought but I could see that CTR-22 in the markings of FedEx or other express companies (DHL perhaps?) as well as various other cargo carriers.

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2012, 01:48:41 PM »
Hmm, just a thought but I could see that CTR-22 in the markings of FedEx or other express companies (DHL perhaps?) as well as various other cargo carriers.

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2012, 02:56:03 PM »
Had the chance to go out to the experimental hanger and look over the V-22 we're working on.  It looks like the LH sponson could be stretched forward to fair into the fuselage in line with the windscreen frame; this would give you room for a small weapons bay or fixed gun mount.  There are, too, provisions for a nose-mounted gun turret under the radar but I don't think that option has ever been exercised.

For other possibilities, how about an AEW radar mounted on the aft ramp much like what the FAA has on Sea Kings now?

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2012, 12:11:37 AM »
For other possibilities, how about an AEW radar mounted on the aft ramp much like what the FAA has on Sea Kings now?

Would there be room for an installation like this Evan

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2012, 01:23:30 AM »
Under-fuselage?  I doubt it as it sits pretty low to the ground.

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2012, 01:40:14 AM »
Had the chance to go out to the experimental hanger and look over the V-22 we're working on.  It looks like the LH sponson could be stretched forward to fair into the fuselage in line with the windscreen frame; this would give you room for a small weapons bay or fixed gun mount.  There are, too, provisions for a nose-mounted gun turret under the radar but I don't think that option has ever been exercised.

For other possibilities, how about an AEW radar mounted on the aft ramp much like what the FAA has on Sea Kings now?

Ramp mounted radar sounds like the best option considering how low to the ground the aircraft actually sits in real life.  Unless you increase the length of the landing gear to make the room available. 

The stretched sponson sounds interesting.  Or at the very least, an excuse to kit-bash the MatchBox/Revell Chinook with an Osprey.
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