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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2012, 05:04:04 PM »
As some of you know, I've done a couple of tilt-rotor creations: a 1/48 "spectre" type gunship and a kitbash of a 1/48 OV-1 Mohawk and a 1/72 V-22 into an escort for the vanilla V-22. 

I've got at least 4 more of the 1/48 Ospreys, only one of which will be done up as a USMC battle taxi.  I have plans to work one up as a US Coast Guard rescue bird with a hoist (or two), inflatable life raft canisters and even a zodiac on the tail ramp ready to deploy. And I love the Canadian SAR profile in yellow with the red stripes down the sides, so that's a definite possibility at some point.   I've seen a suggestion somewhere to make one as a heavy lift bird like the sky crane.

Don't be shy, please share the images of your Ospreys here on the forum as soon as you can. 

I would love to find a 1/48th scale Zodiac.  Have you found a source for one of these or are you going for something smaller in scale like 1/72nd? 

What about a VV-22 As "Marine One"? 
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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2012, 06:01:53 PM »
What about a VV-22 As "Marine One"?

I'm all for this project. That one would truly look awesome!!!

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2012, 08:34:45 PM »
Don't be shy, please share the images of your Ospreys here on the forum as soon as you can. 

I would love to find a 1/48th scale Zodiac.  Have you found a source for one of these or are you going for something smaller in scale like 1/72nd? 

What about a VV-22 As "Marine One"?

Photos will go up tonight for everyone's viewing pleasure.

I'll have to check my laptop at home, but I think I found a 1/48 zodiac from a small AM company, otherwise I might take a shot at scratching one and maybe casting a couple copies?

Ooohhh! A VV-22 would be another possibility - I have the decals from both my CH-46 and CH-53 that are for HMX-1. Add it to the idea list!

So far:
USCG (HV-22?? What would the correct rescue/SAR designator be?)
Canadian SAR
HMX-1

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2012, 09:38:19 PM »
USCG (HV-22?? What would the correct rescue/SAR designator be?)

The official designation of the SAR version was to be HV-22A before it was cancelled, so I guess HV-22C (or whatever suffix) would be okay. This being said, let's keep in mind that the USCG's tendency is to make use of non-standard designations (probably to reflect the fact that the Coast Guard is not a branch of the military in peace time, but a civilian agency). Designations like HV-911 use the manufacturer's number as a designator, MH-68A is (almost) standard, while C-143A and HC-144A take over from the old pre-1962 system. The planned Agusta-Bell BA609 (now the AW609, an Agusta Westland product) for the Coast Guard has been designated the HV-609. A USCG Osprey could also therefore be an HV-901.

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2012, 09:44:12 PM »
What about a VV-22 As "Marine One"?

I'm all for this project. That one would truly look awesome!!!

It was studied, but I'm not at all certain I can share that info (company proprietary info and such).  There are a few interesting "tweaks" to that version.

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2012, 01:34:02 AM »
It was studied, but I'm not at all certain I can share that info (company proprietary info and such).  There are a few interesting "tweaks" to that version.


I know, I know! It has one of those cool POTUS-only escape pods like Harrison Ford had in Air Force One or the president had in Escape from New York!!!

It would be a cool white-top, though.

Edited to add:
As promised, here are my two completed tilt rotors:

The AV-22 Spectre




I think I called this an AV-1?





I have a few more angles of each, if anyone wants to see something, let me know.
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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2012, 11:56:30 AM »
LemonJello, just a thought for the HMX-1 VV-22, the CH-53E and, I suspect, the CH-46s, had black tops because they were support aircraft rather than direct transports.  A couple quick and obvious comments on the Vv-22 proposal, it had more windows and the rear ramp was replaced by a set of steps that still closed up the same.  The really tricky bit was modifying the exhausts so that they wouldn't kick up dust and offend powerful persons and there were some "interesting" approaches considered there.

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2012, 03:51:33 PM »
I'm kind of surprised that we have seen any Chinese tilt rotors yet.
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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2012, 02:43:22 AM »
LemonJello, just a thought for the HMX-1 VV-22, the CH-53E and, I suspect, the CH-46s, had black tops because they were support aircraft rather than direct transports.  A couple quick and obvious comments on the Vv-22 proposal, it had more windows and the rear ramp was replaced by a set of steps that still closed up the same.  The really tricky bit was modifying the exhausts so that they wouldn't kick up dust and offend powerful persons and there were some "interesting" approaches considered there.

The downwash is pretty bad, compared to other platforms that I've seen/ridden on.  How "interesting" were those approaches?

When I build my VV-22, it'll be a white-top, just because those are cooler. I could see adding windows, would they be larger? But if I go that route I'll tint them since I don't know if I want to spruce up the interior to VIP standards.
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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2012, 12:34:23 PM »
The windows were the same size, just more of them, and the interior was definitely VIP but not overdone.  The "interesting approaches" on the exhausts were different ways of deflecting them outboard, away from the aircraft instead of straight down at the ground.  One such was a diverter system not unlike what Boeing used on the X-32B.

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2012, 11:24:07 AM »
For those looking to do a scaleorama cross of a 1/72 V-22's nacelles with a 1/48 Bronco, I'd recommend the Hobbycraft 1/72 V-22 kit as a suitable donor.  The engine nacelles bear a passing resemblance to the real thing but certainly don't reflect EMD or production configurations; making them highly suitable for whiffing use.

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2012, 01:51:46 PM »
Another one I did a while ago:



And yes, I know it still appears to have the fuselage engines...consider this a prototype econversion.
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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2012, 07:04:05 PM »
If you slimmed the tip pods down to just the rotor then the roof engines could stay put.

You could follow the line down from the top of the intake to the top of the exhaust outlet.
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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2012, 09:01:21 PM »
I like...

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Re: Tilt-Rotor Aircraft
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2012, 02:48:48 AM »



Civil Tilt-rotor


Civil Tilt-rotor to V-22 comparison





Regarding an OV-10 conversion, personally I'd have the wing section outboard of the booms
rotate with the new engine/rotor assemblies. The reduction in under disc area would probably
be advantageous in VTOL mode.
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