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Offline raafif

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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #50 on: July 13, 2012, 08:23:04 AM »
that guy posts on Stargazer's Deviant Art page    http://whifcraft.deviantart.com
     as well as having his own blog.

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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #51 on: July 13, 2012, 08:40:45 AM »
Someone should invite him here.
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Offline RussC

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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #52 on: July 13, 2012, 11:31:36 AM »
Someone should invite him here.

I have, he didn't reply. I typically will let someone who really displays good or better works there on the existence of BTS, and "The other forum", as well as Deviant Art's own what-if group called "Whifcraft".

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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #53 on: July 14, 2012, 06:54:20 AM »
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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #54 on: November 05, 2012, 01:51:33 AM »
Found on the internet:



anyone care to guess what it started as and what went into it?
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Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #55 on: November 05, 2012, 02:16:10 AM »


I can only see the back 3/4 of the plane because of browser frames on my smart phone, but that's probably an advantage in this case. Looks like an Su-22 to me.

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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #56 on: November 05, 2012, 02:21:31 AM »
You really need to see the front 1/4  ;)
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Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #57 on: November 05, 2012, 04:00:40 AM »
Aww, cool.  Looks like an F-14-style nose.  The whole thing looks F-105-inspired.  Very cool.

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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #58 on: November 05, 2012, 09:25:04 AM »
That's very nice indeed. The only nit you could pick is the lack of intake splitter plates, and that'd be easy enough to fix.

Since F-105 kits mould the intakes as part of the wing, you could simply graft su-22 wings onto the Thud fuselage, then add the intakes of your choice and blend them in. They look Skyhawk-ish, but those would be way too small, unless you were willing to sacrifice a 1/48th Scooter for a 1/72nd model. Viggen ones would be around the right size for the engine, and old Airfix Viggens are cheap and easy to get.
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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #59 on: November 05, 2012, 09:44:33 AM »
<...> you could simply graft su-22 wings onto the Thud fuselage, then add the intakes of your choice and blend them in. <...>


 :) Would look great!



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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #60 on: November 05, 2012, 10:09:56 AM »
That was quick - nice one!

Yes, I though about blending the Su-22 swing-wing with the Thud's Ferri intakes. It certainly looks cool, but I'm not sure it would be possible, given the size of the spars connecting the pivot points to the fuselage: routing the intake ducting though one while keeping it strong enough would make the wing section unfeasibly thick.
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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #61 on: November 05, 2012, 10:33:45 AM »
That was quick - nice one!

Yes, I though about blending the Su-22 swing-wing with the Thud's Ferri intakes. It certainly looks cool, but I'm not sure it would be possible, given the size of the spars connecting the pivot points to the fuselage: routing the intake ducting though one while keeping it strong enough would make the wing section unfeasibly thick.
You'd have to place the inlets far enough ahead of the wings to allow the ducting to sweep into the fuselage and the main intake where the spars would mate with major fuselage frames to carry the loads.  It wouldn't be impossible, but it would take some arranging.  The intake ducts do sweep in fairly quickly with the aux. inlets to the ducts being on the inboard wall of the main gear wells (until they got some variable blanking plates over those, the F-105 had problems getting the gear down on landing).

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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #62 on: November 06, 2012, 06:24:13 AM »
Quick? Nah, the profiles were done sometime last year.  ;)

You raise some interesting points regarding the intakes.  :) I didn't put too much thought into the internals when I bashed the profiles. Just went for the looks. I do remember though that I had to place a "spacer" between Thud fuselage and Fitter wings due to some alignment problems in the original profiles. That spacer adds about a foot of wing span per side between fuselage and wing pivot point.

Here's a section of a Su-22 wing cutaway:



I reckon 188, 147 and 148 are the main spars, with 203 a secondary spar. With the wing further outboard (more internal space in the fixed section) and the intake on the actual Thud sweeping in as elmayerle describes, it might just work. I guess the intake in the whif profile would go through where the 30mm cannons on the actual Fitter are (just ahead of the spar 203).
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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #63 on: November 10, 2012, 05:29:04 AM »
This Spanish blog site by Pablo J. Ńlvarez has some nice whifs - some you will recognize from other forums.  Last time I went there (a few years ago) it only had drawings like the top logo.

Caution -- navigation around the pages is quite weird with different photos of a particular model scattered around various pages & others only shown in the link pictures.
http://www.fantasyplanes.com/2010_01_01_archive.html

Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2012, 03:54:35 PM »
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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2012, 04:38:43 PM »
Looking familiar:

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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #66 on: November 14, 2012, 04:59:23 AM »
Yeah, now I know where from that deja vu feeling came!  :)
Grippen in Cheetah clothing. I think i found it in some south-african forum, but I can't recall the exact name.
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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #67 on: November 21, 2012, 02:39:52 AM »
Found on the internet:



anyone care to guess what it started as and what went into it?


Well, since no-one else has offered up any suggestions, here is the answer:  It's a Polish Air Force Su-22UM mated to a fattened-up F-4 Phantom radome, A-4 Skyhawk side intakes and the IRST/FLIR of a SAAB J35J Draken.  Was done by an Artist called Dr.Snufflebug.
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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #68 on: November 21, 2012, 02:45:33 AM »


That's the original photo if anyone wants to compare.

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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #69 on: November 21, 2012, 05:24:49 AM »
Why I didnt noticed this before? It's marvelous! I need to use it somewhere in future in profiling. Maybe using Su-20 as a base.

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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #70 on: November 24, 2012, 06:02:36 AM »


All hail the God of Frustration!!!

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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #71 on: November 24, 2012, 07:31:06 AM »
Diggin' the MiG-29UBS!  :-*  The usual UB has no radar and I wonder whether you could fit a Gripen's radar in the UB's nose if you wanted to?
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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #72 on: November 26, 2012, 10:57:31 AM »
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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #73 on: July 04, 2013, 03:04:44 PM »
Ebay whiff:



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Offline jschmus

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Re: Random whiffs you have found
« Reply #74 on: August 14, 2013, 02:04:34 AM »
A friend on Facebook pointed me toward this, an artist who crafts motorcycles out of old watch parts:
https://www.facebook.com/watchpartsmotorcycles

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