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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #60 on: May 13, 2015, 11:22:07 AM »
Supersonic side-by-side two seater - Hunter T.7+P.1130 nose and radar (from Freightdog)+P.1083 wings+(possibly)Lightning T.4/T.5 windscreen and canopy (for a more streamlined windscreen angle - much like what the single F.3 had).

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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #61 on: May 13, 2015, 10:24:47 PM »
Nice, AW interceptor I assume, or a strike bus?

Maybe an early multimode Airpass?  I have been shouted down before but I am sure the Ferranti Blue Parrot was also known as the Airpass III, so maybe an Airpass IV or V?

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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #62 on: May 14, 2015, 01:51:25 AM »
Has anyone considered adapting the Fieri style sugar scoop air intakes to the Hunter?  Do not recall any what-if or RW concepts involving that style of intake. 
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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #63 on: May 14, 2015, 02:04:30 AM »
Has anyone considered adapting the Fieri style sugar scoop air intakes to the Hunter?  Do not recall any what-if or RW concepts involving that style of intake.


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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #64 on: May 14, 2015, 11:19:28 AM »
Nice, AW interceptor I assume, or a strike bus?

Maybe an early multimode Airpass?  I have been shouted down before but I am sure the Ferranti Blue Parrot was also known as the Airpass III, so maybe an Airpass IV or V?
I as thinking of it as an AW interceptor with potential strike capability.

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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #65 on: May 14, 2015, 11:20:54 AM »
Has anyone considered adapting the Fieri style sugar scoop air intakes to the Hunter?  Do not recall any what-if or RW concepts involving that style of intake.
I could see that for a developed P.1083 with an Avon 300.  Slightly off subject, but I could very easily see such intakes fitted to a Draken, too.

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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #66 on: June 28, 2015, 11:15:28 PM »
I have tried and failed to find a P.1083 conversion, Freightdog used to make one but its no longer listed. 

Also I'm tossing up whether to buy an Italeri 1/48 Hunter F6, I know there's no conversion kits available but should be able to scratch build a radar nose and clean up the fuselage.  Anyone know anything about that kit?

The Revell 1/72 seems nice but I have never seen one in stock here or down south.

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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #67 on: June 28, 2015, 11:51:04 PM »
I believe the Italieri kit is a remolding of the Academy kit, so it should be fairly good.

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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #68 on: June 29, 2015, 10:43:39 AM »
Thanks.

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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #69 on: June 30, 2015, 12:03:12 AM »
Well now I have bought the 1/48 Hunter I suppose I had better read back through here for ideas.  Still very tempted to do a RN or RAN FAA FAW Sea Hunter, without conversion kits it will be hard to do a Super Sea Hunter but an improved one shouldn't be too hard.

Thinking scribed wing folds and maybe airbrakes (I intend to leave off the under fuselage kit item), re-profiled (radar) nose, must do something about the link collection fairings, missiles (Sidewinder, Firestreak, Redtop?).

Ideas anyone?

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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #70 on: June 30, 2015, 06:49:50 AM »
FAR148's build is over on What If.

Here's the link: http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,29145.0.html

Beauty shots are on page 7. :-*

Seriously beautiful build but I'd love to see something similar in RAN FAA colours. ;)
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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #71 on: June 30, 2015, 07:10:44 AM »
I have tried and failed to find a P.1083 conversion, Freightdog used to make one but its no longer listed. 

Also I'm tossing up whether to buy an Italeri 1/48 Hunter F6, I know there's no conversion kits available but should be able to scratch build a radar nose and clean up the fuselage.  Anyone know anything about that kit?

The Revell 1/72 seems nice but I have never seen one in stock here or down south.

I think Colin at Freightdog has said that the P.1083 master needs re-doing, but he is planning to resurrect it in the future. However I can't find the thread over on What If where I thought he said that, so don't take it as gospel.
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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #72 on: June 30, 2015, 07:12:02 AM »
Nice, AW interceptor I assume, or a strike bus?

Maybe an early multimode Airpass?  I have been shouted down before but I am sure the Ferranti Blue Parrot was also known as the Airpass III, so maybe an Airpass IV or V?

I don't know about Blue Parrot being called AIRPASS III, but it was certainly based on the same electronics as the AIRPASS.
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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #73 on: June 30, 2015, 10:24:46 AM »
I have tried and failed to find a P.1083 conversion, Freightdog used to make one but its no longer listed. 

Also I'm tossing up whether to buy an Italeri 1/48 Hunter F6, I know there's no conversion kits available but should be able to scratch build a radar nose and clean up the fuselage.  Anyone know anything about that kit?

The Revell 1/72 seems nice but I have never seen one in stock here or down south.

I think Colin at Freightdog has said that the P.1083 master needs re-doing, but he is planning to resurrect it in the future. However I can't find the thread over on What If where I thought he said that, so don't take it as gospel.
It's one of the threads in the Freightdog Models sub-forum and his answer was in response to a question from me about renewed availability.

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Re: Hawker Hunter Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #74 on: June 30, 2015, 12:00:07 PM »
Thanks for that guys, that USMC Hunter is really something.  If Freightdog rereleases the Super Hunter I will have to get the Revel 1/72 but looking at my Italeri example I am tempted to do a radar nose like the 1083.

Just found a very very interesting photo on page 166 of Hawker Hunter 1951-2007 of a private venture Sidewinder installation.  The outer pair of ADENs were removed and single pylons for sidewinders were fitted each side of the gun pack.

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=Ih5Vcy2PZXQC&pg=PA36&lpg=PA36&dq=hawker+p.1083&source=bl&ots=BJ487n6gNY&sig=VCBqNbfLzRRYBIQz11Ve3_JJwaQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=rQuSVevMLKexmwWM2aCoAQ&ved=0CDYQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=sidewinder&f=false

Very easy to model, could even delete the link catchers and say they were cycled into an internal catcher in the deleted gun space.  Combine this with the radar nose and wing mounted Firestreak / Redtop and youd really have something.  I wonder if it would have been possible to mount Firestreak in such a manner?