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Sukhoi Su-27 and derivative ideas and inspiration
« on: December 28, 2011, 02:34:13 PM »
Hi folks,

A dedicated thread for your ideas for the Su-27/30/32/34 family.

To begin with, how about a Su-34VG with wings also from the Sukhoi stable:



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Re: Sukhoi Su-27 and derivative ideas and inspiration
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2012, 08:19:35 AM »
Here is the Sukhoi Su-27RV (NATO: "Flanker-Q"). The text of the advertisement is supposed to say: "Tomorrow's war... today" but I do not guarantee the exactness of my Russian!




And here is the Su-27N "Flanker-J", a pretty standard Su-27 in JASDF (Japanese Air Force) guise.




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Re: Sukhoi Su-27 and derivative ideas and inspiration
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2012, 09:16:58 AM »
From here.

Come to think of it, I can't seem to recall any real-life manned fighter being equipped with winglets.  What compelled the author to add winglets?
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Re: Sukhoi Su-27 and derivative ideas and inspiration
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2012, 12:28:17 PM »



now that looks different  ... and NICE !!

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Re: Sukhoi Su-27 and derivative ideas and inspiration
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2012, 03:31:44 AM »

Come to think of it, I can't seem to recall any real-life manned fighter being equipped with winglets.  What compelled the author to add winglets?


Well, the MiG-25 briefly had them on tip file tanks but this was dispensed with:



The next closest I can think of was the early Yak-130 configuration (not technically a fighter I know):



I suspect they were added simply for the cool look in the example you found though.
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Re: Sukhoi Su-27 and derivative ideas and inspiration
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2012, 04:31:23 PM »
That is an interesting picture, GT'. The E266 prototype Foxbat had larger tip tanks and downward pitched single fins on their outsides. This pictured machine looks like a modern photo, and the windscreen is different, no circular forward brace at all, rather more like a Mig 29 canopy and there are some chines that are not completely like the Foxhound's (and no second cockpit!) but the landing gear is Mig - 31, plus those wingtip devices are mysterious. And a retracting IFR probe as well. Its not a 25, but not quite a 31 either.
 
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Re: Sukhoi Su-27 and derivative ideas and inspiration
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2012, 09:22:57 PM »
^ It's a Foxhound alright, Jim, but not as we know it.  ;)
It's the prototype of the MiG-31M (LINK), an advanced variant of the Foxhound that was planned, but ultimately not adopted. Pretty potent beast, with six R-37/AA-9 and four RV-77/AA-12.
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Re: Sukhoi Su-27 and derivative ideas and inspiration
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2012, 03:25:03 AM »
Yeah, their MiG-31s.  Sorry about that - teach me to try to do it on the quick and to only glance at the picture. :icon_alabanza:

The early MiG-25 did however trial winglets:

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Re: Sukhoi Su-27 and derivative ideas and inspiration
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2012, 07:19:19 AM »
Cool photoshop morphing a Malaysian Su-30 into a Super Sylph from Yukikaze!


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Re: Sukhoi Su-27 and derivative ideas and inspiration
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2012, 10:14:25 AM »
I've got this idea of converting a Su-27 to have a single free-turbine engine.  I found that the left over props I have from my C-130J will fit in between the tail booms of the Su-27.  At the moment, it's still in the 'in my mind' process ---- 

The parts are both from the Airfix 1/72 Su-27 and C-130J kits

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Re: Sukhoi Su-27 and derivative ideas and inspiration
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2012, 01:13:42 PM »
I've got this idea of converting a Su-27 to have a single free-turbine engine.  I found that the left over props I have from my C-130J will fit in between the tail booms of the Su-27.  At the moment, it's still in the 'in my mind' process ---- 

The parts are both from the Airfix 1/72 Su-27 and C-130J kits
Two engines with the free turbines driving a single prop, or contra-prop, setup through a combining gearbox?  Basically a very big brother to the PT6T?

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Re: Sukhoi Su-27 and derivative ideas and inspiration
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2012, 09:23:08 PM »
I was thinking just one engine and with contra-props.  I was looking for an airframe which wouldn't need changing much to get the prop diameter in between the booms and the Su-27 is large enough to do that.  I'd remove the two existing engines and build up the fuselage from the cockpit to the rear end.  I found in the spares box a large exhaust nozzle where I've drilled a series of equally spaced holes in it, I plan on using all the blades in the photo so there will be 12 to each row, fortunately the plastic is quite soft so twisting one set of twelve to the opposite hand isn't to much trouble.

It's really a thought extention to this build below I did some time ago, using most of a Mig-29 and Hawk T.1

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Re: Sukhoi Su-27 and derivative ideas and inspiration
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2012, 11:04:22 PM »


Great find Moritz!
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Re: Sukhoi Su-27 and derivative ideas and inspiration
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2012, 11:16:38 PM »
I had only seen the X wing at that site before but its loaded with pics:




















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Re: Sukhoi Su-27 and derivative ideas and inspiration
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2012, 03:59:58 AM »
Some of those "Stealthified" (I'm calling it a word! ;)) flankers look cool.  Might be tempting to do something like that in plastic.
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