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Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration
« on: December 28, 2011, 04:05:16 AM »
Hi folks,

A thread for your Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration.

To begin with, how about this crude (and very quickly thrown together) Battle update:



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Re: Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2011, 04:07:14 AM »
Next, a couple of DAP N-7 Wandabaa (aboriginal for Eaglehawk) (as seen here in full colour) variations:




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Re: Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2011, 04:08:32 AM »
Finally, a floatplane:



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Re: Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2011, 07:12:41 AM »
The Wandabaa's were particularly nice to play with Greg.

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Re: Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2012, 08:38:07 AM »
A diminutive version of the Battle, the forgotten Fairey Faucon... In late 1939, the French government decided it was perhaps too risky to continue building combat aircraft on the French territory, for fear they might fall in enemy hands should the war intensify and Germany seize them. Several foreign types were ordered, among them the Fairey Faucon ("Falcon" in French), the prototype for which had already been built to a strictly French specification.

The aircraft was hastily shipped to France and flight tested at Bretigny airfield, where it demonstrated great performance. The surrender of France in 1940 put an end to several aircraft orders, including one for 200 Faucons. The crewmen at Bretigny decided to set the aircraft ablaze instead of allowing it to fall into adverse hands. That was the end of what could have been France's greatest asset in combat.

NOTE: Just as I did in other similar threads, I'm including this one more for inspiration than as a really feasible modification of a model. Pixel work enables me to stretch and distort certain parts of an aircraft, which is not always so easy in plastic...



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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2012, 12:31:31 AM »
I love the odd look of the double-cockpit Fairey Battle that MPM makes. I am going to turn that into a 1942 British carrier-borne night-torpedo-bomber that will thrash the Kido Butai in a "sneak" night attack off Ceylon. The radar guy is the GIB. Though the photo-shopped illustration below does not show it, I plan to make the fuselage look like a Marlin, with the characteristic metallic-blue-to-silver fade from the top, and vertical turquoise dots, etc. (I am WAAAAAY behind on modeling projects, but the "Marlin" is near the top of the list of future builds).

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Re: Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2012, 10:50:12 AM »
Fairey's P27/32 Scheme 5 also had those separate canopies but was powered by twin Merlins. There's been lots of whif twin-engined Battles since then. One I did was the Fairey Falcon in Western Australia markings for rickshaw's 'Remember Eureka' concept.

I'm also attaching a single-seat fighter Battle proposal -- not all that different than Stéphane's concept  ;D
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Re: Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2014, 02:45:04 AM »
Holy thread revival Batman!!

Random idea:  What about a Battle night fighter?  Stay with conventional airframe but add in radar on wings, operator in rear, and perhaps something akin to Schräge Musik with say an upward firing 20mm cannon similar to that on the D4Y2-S "Suisei":

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Re: Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2014, 02:54:18 AM »
Holy thread revival Batman!!

Random idea:  What about a Battle night fighter?  Stay with conventional airframe but add in radar on wings, operator in rear

Sort of like a Fairey Firefly Nightfighter Greg, Mk.II or V

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Re: Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2014, 03:11:28 AM »
... or perhaps a 37mm like the Westland and Vickers C.O.W. gun fighters that pre-date the Luftwaffe
and IJN installations by over a decade?  ;)








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Re: Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2014, 03:10:49 AM »
... or perhaps a 37mm like the Westland and Vickers C.O.W. gun fighters that pre-date the Luftwaffe
and IJN installations by over a decade?  ;)



I realised that - I simply used the Schräge Musik reference since it was the fastest way of saying what I meant. ;)  I also used the D4Y2-S picture since it was the closest at hand that looks like what I am thinking.

Sort of like a Fairey Firefly Nightfighter Greg, Mk.II or V


Not quite.  I am thinking of something that is more of a 1940 lash up job.  Basically, the Luftwaffe starts night bombing and the Battle NF Mk.I is developed as one of multiple defensive measures.  The Battles would be somewhat at a loss for other roles and their size would give good endurance whilst allowing plenty of space for additional equipment.  It would have radar similar to the Defiant night fighters (see below for example) and perhaps a single 20mm upward firing cannon in the rear cockpit.  Idea would be to format below the bombers and then let rip. 



Maybe something akin to this:

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Re: Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2018, 09:12:12 AM »
Just a thought, a two-seat version with airbrakes on the wings to operate as a tactical dive bomber?

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Re: Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2018, 09:26:15 AM »
And another thought, a mounting for a Vickers "S" gun that would pick up the outboard bomb shackles with ammo in the wing and the gun in a pod underneath and put more ammo in the inboard bomb bay.  Could make an interesting tank hunter or, in Costal Command usage, a hunter for S-Boats, surfaced U-Boats, and suchlike.

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Re: Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2018, 03:07:51 AM »
And another thought, a mounting for a Vickers "S" gun that would pick up the outboard bomb shackles with ammo in the wing and the gun in a pod underneath and put more ammo in the inboard bomb bay.  Could make an interesting tank hunter or, in Costal Command usage, a hunter for S-Boats, surfaced U-Boats, and suchlike.

I would tend to go more for the "hunter for S-Boats, surfaced U-Boats, and suchlike." option.  In fact, a ASW variant might be interesting if fitted with S-Gun or Rockets as well as radar and/or searchlight?  Maybe go with something like a podded AN/APS-4 radar on one wing and a podded searchlight on the other?
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Re: Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2018, 09:38:14 AM »
And another thought, a mounting for a Vickers "S" gun that would pick up the outboard bomb shackles with ammo in the wing and the gun in a pod underneath and put more ammo in the inboard bomb bay.  Could make an interesting tank hunter or, in Costal Command usage, a hunter for S-Boats, surfaced U-Boats, and suchlike.

I would tend to go more for the "hunter for S-Boats, surfaced U-Boats, and suchlike." option.  In fact, a ASW variant might be interesting if fitted with S-Gun or Rockets as well as radar and/or searchlight?  Maybe go with something like a podded AN/APS-4 radar on one wing and a podded searchlight on the other?
S gun under each inboard bomb bay with ammo in both and an AN/APS-4 under one outboard one and a searchlight under the other?  Still room to later add rockets under the outer wings.  That could seriously ruin the target's day.

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Re: Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2018, 01:52:38 AM »
Maybe also re-engined with either a RR Griffon or one of the other engines used in the various Battle testbeds?
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Re: Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2018, 02:21:17 AM »
One of the things I would definitely do to the Battle, upgrade the engine package, maybe from the Firefly Mk.1.

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Re: Fairey Battle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2018, 08:53:54 AM »
Well, I was considering claiming a later model, and more powerful, Merlin and giving it a four-bladed propeller, likely with a spinner.