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Offline elmayerle

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Re: RN get's back into the big carrier business
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2014, 12:24:29 PM »
If memory serves me correctly, wasn't the F-14 required to land on any ship a F-4 could land on, including the modified Midway-class carriers?  Not that they necessarily had the room for many of them.

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Re: RN get's back into the big carrier business
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2014, 12:28:06 PM »
If I remember correctly, it was the cats that prevented the F-14s from flying from the Midways.  They couldn't generate enough speed because they were shorter and Grumman didn't/couldn't make nose wheel extensions like the RN did with the F-4.
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Re: RN get's back into the big carrier business
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2014, 12:30:55 PM »
What I found on this issue was that the USS Midway and USS Coral Sea could not accommodate the F-14 due to the size and weight of the aircraft.  Both operated F-4 Phantoms until they were replaced by the F-18 until they were decommissioned. 
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Re: RN get's back into the big carrier business
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2014, 12:45:33 PM »
What I found on this issue was that the USS Midway and USS Coral Sea could not accommodate the F-14 due to the size and weight of the aircraft.  Both operated F-4 Phantoms until they were replaced by the F-18 until they were decommissioned.
Okay, then that definitely limits you as to what carriers can operate F-14's.  Too bad the F-18 requirement didn't include being able to land on any carrier that the F-4 could.

Odd thought for the RN staying in the carrier business, what if the A-6's avionics were mated to the Buccaneer airframe with an improved Spey version added (perhaps a cropped TF41 or a cropped Tay turbofan or a dry, higher bypass-ratio, RB.199?).

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Re: RN get's back into the big carrier business
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2014, 10:14:12 PM »
Why not fit the F-14s with extendable nose legs?
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Re: RN get's back into the big carrier business
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2014, 02:13:31 AM »
Why not fit the F-14s with extendable nose legs?


My thought exactly…along with some other features used on the Spey F-4s.

A F-14 in RN FAA Scheme and posed in a launch condition with its nose wheel fully extended would be a real looker.

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Re: RN get's back into the big carrier business
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2014, 07:38:36 AM »
Hmmm, and I have a couple of F-14s and a Fujimi F-4K with that exact decal scheme too.........  ;)
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Re: RN get's back into the big carrier business
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2014, 09:39:51 AM »
ISTR USS Midway (yes, JUST-missed-WWII CV-41) is the smallest ship to ever trap and cat an F-14... it was an emergency-landing situation, and the Midways were part of the reason the Phantom was kept afloat as long as it was--seems BuAer didn't think they could handle the Ironworks bird for some reason, if I'm remembering the version I heard while touring her right.

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Re: RN get's back into the big carrier business
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2014, 11:24:36 AM »
As a quick and dirty solution, how about the USN transfers the Midway and the Coral Sea to the UK as temporary "capability sustainers" until new RN carriers of similar size can be built? Midway lasted until 1992 in USN service and Coral Sea could probably have done the same, so that gives the UK ten years to buld their replacements. The initial air wings might be raised by the RAF giving the Navy back some F-4Ks and Buccaneers until sufficient F-18s can be delivered to replace them.

A Fleet Air Arm F/A-18C in EDSG over light grey with Skyflash, AIM-9L and Sea Eagles would be interesting.
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