Author Topic: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration  (Read 44820 times)

Offline SebastianP

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #135 on: March 22, 2018, 09:51:11 AM »
I would probably cheat and use something such as F-22 or Super Hornet intakes. Maybe also steal the F-22 exhausts, give an enclosed weapons' pannier on the centreline, do something about the tail (maybe even give it a F-23 style V-tail), new front windscreen...

At that point you're basically building an entire new aircraft, though.

Here are the mods I can see someone doing realistically, in order of likelihood they'd be implemented in real life (also, more or less the reverse order you'd have to do them if you were building it..)

Paint the aircraft in 36170 instead of TPS. The F-35C is carrying the same HAVE GLASS V paint scheme as the other variants, and it has also been applied to the F-16 during the recent CCIP modernizations.

Apply "RAM tape" made from the thinnest styrene you can get your hands on over the panel lines. Don't bother rescribing, just glue narrow, super thin strips of plastic over all the panel lines using brush cement. Paint them a different color from the rest of the aircraft if you must, but the real F-35 just got color-matched RAM tape so it's no longer needed.

Reshape the worst of the minor intakes and vents on the fuselage, like the dorsal bleed air vents, by adding a triangle to the lip.

Sand the mating surface of the ventral stabilators so they won't sit perpendicular to the surface, but meet it at an angle, preferably so the tips are further outboard.

Install F135 nozzles looted from a couple of F-35s in place of the TF30 or F110 ones. Much easier to do than faff about with Raptor nozzles, also F135 engines are in the Navy inventory already.

Replace the TCS with the nose sensor from an F-35.

Fill and sand flush the intake ramps, eliminating both their functionality and the panel lines. They're not needed.

Chop off the front end of the wing glove fairing (upper intake lip/splitter plate) and extend the fairing to the forward fuselage, Flanker style.

Reshape the edges of the intakes so both the inboard and outboard edges are completely straight, and the inboard edge is forward of the outboard one by a few mm.

Offline elmayerle

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #136 on: March 22, 2018, 11:32:38 AM »
Replace the TCS with the nose sensor from an F-35.
Replacing the TCS or TCS+IRST on the F-14D with the F-35's EOTS would be feasible, but would take some structural and internal redesign (the visible part is small compared to the whole package).

I would definitely go with a radome/forward fuselage mating more like that on the F-22 or F-35, especially since I'd be upgrading to an AESA radar, too.

I would endeavor to relocate as many scoops and vents into the inlets as possible and, as far upstream from the engines as possible, put a radial radar blocker like Boeing used on the X-32.  I don't know that I would redesign the inlets per se, but I would make them and the inlet ducts out of composite material incorporating RAM within it (this has been around for 20 years and I suspect it is being used on the F-35).

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #137 on: March 22, 2018, 05:56:35 PM »
(this has been around for 20 years and I suspect it is being used on the F-35).

You and everyone else... AFAIK they did some of that to the F-16 during CCIP as well, put RAM  on the internal bulkheads so that if radar energy got through the Have Glass paint it wouldn't bounce off the vertical surfaces, but the RAM itself would be out of the airstream and not get too beat up in flight. Nothing you'd really see on a model though.




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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #138 on: September 04, 2019, 09:40:15 AM »
This Is What Grumman's Proposed F-14 Super Tomcat 21 Would Have Actually Looked Like

The Super Tomcat 21 would include a variety of enhancements over the F-14D and it could be produced via remanufacturing existing F-14 airframes or it could be ordered via a new-build arrangement. Most likely a combination of both options would have been used, just like the F-14D. Remember that the last new-build Tomcat had rolled off the Bethpage, New York production line in 1992, so it's not like the F-14 inventory was long in the tooth or its production line had gone cold for an extensive period of time when the Super Tomcat 21 was being considered.

If the Super Hornet hadn't been built, Grumman's next-gen Tomcat may have become a reality. We forensically recreated it in these awesome renderings.





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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #139 on: September 05, 2019, 02:07:51 AM »
Beat me to it.
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