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Re: EE/BAC Lightning Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2012, 08:45:38 PM »
Just a two simple ideas: chase plane for hypersonic, rocket, or winged spaceplanes, and additional small rocket engine in tailbase and scientific equipment in overwings tanks. So, just taking F-104 serving in NASA on British ground.

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Re: EE/BAC Lightning Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2012, 01:52:19 AM »
I like that.  :).  Or circumvent American ego and NASA themselves get the Lightning.
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Re: EE/BAC Lightning Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2013, 10:07:36 AM »
Single-engined Lightning made from a Plasticart Su-7 and a Revellobox Lightning F.6:







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Re: EE/BAC Lightning Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2013, 10:19:56 AM »
Great idea with the Lightning-Fitter kit bash.  Looks quite natural with the single exhaust unit. 
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Re: EE/BAC Lightning Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2013, 10:49:13 AM »
That DOES look quite natural indeed!  :) Jolly nice work!
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Re: EE/BAC Lightning Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2013, 07:59:50 PM »
I like that!

Though bashing it with an Su-7 isn't going to give it any better range. ;D
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Re: EE/BAC Lightning Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2013, 08:53:33 PM »
I like that!

Though bashing it with an Su-7 isn't going to give it any better range. ;D

Yes but getting rid of the Lyulka AL-7 might: that thing turned as much fuel into smoke as it did into thrust...... :o
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Re: EE/BAC Lightning Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2013, 02:00:16 AM »
That is awesome!! Had the same Idea with a Mig-21! Plan on knocking it out as soon as I get ahold of a Lightning kit
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Re: EE/BAC Lightning Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2013, 02:46:27 AM »
I like that!

Though bashing it with an Su-7 isn't going to give it any better range. ;D

Yes but getting rid of the Lyulka AL-7 might: that thing turned as much fuel into smoke as it did into thrust...... :o
Perhaps replacing it with a Medway with reheat?  A 1/48 Spey exhaust nozzle would work well as a 1/72 Medway one.

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Re: EE/BAC Lightning Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2013, 08:30:06 PM »
The backstory was that both the Medway and Conway were under consideration, but it ended up with an Olympus for political reasons, after the RAF's Avro Arrows were cancelled....
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Re: EE/BAC Lightning Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2013, 01:47:50 AM »
Simple paint job. Re-locate to the Robert Harris "Fatherland" universe and the Lightning is serving with the Luftwaffe as a QRF on the border with the USSR. Even a chance to do one in a "special" scheme to celebrate Hitlers 70th birthday
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Re: EE/BAC Lightning Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2013, 10:01:41 AM »
That single engine bird is outstanding. :)
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Re: EE/BAC Lightning Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2013, 10:02:06 AM »
Simple paint job. Re-locate to the Robert Harris "Fatherland" universe and the Lightning is serving with the Luftwaffe as a QRF on the border with the USSR. Even a chance to do one in a "special" scheme to celebrate Hitlers 70th birthday

Maybe as a Messerschmitt with Black Tulip markings?
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Re: EE/BAC Lightning Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2013, 04:49:35 AM »
Random idea:  Red Arrow Lightning
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Re: EE/BAC Lightning Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2013, 08:42:56 AM »
I always thought the Lightning would look good as a delta wing design.

Giving it a cranked arrow style wing would give it more internal fuel volume, perhaps enough to at least reduce the under fuselage bulge to no more than F.3 proportions.


As a variation on this suggestion, what about a testbed with a wing similar to the Concorde.  Maybe similar in concept to the MiG-21 testbed for the Tu-144:


While researching something related to the Lightning, I came across this suggestion. So here's my take on it:



The canards came as a bit of an afterthought. I saw the opening of the 30mm guns on the Lightning F.1 and thought a demonstrator wouldn't have use for them. That's when I remembered the Tu-144 Charger's canards.
When I modified the drawing, I calculated that the Concorde's wings are 31.64m long at the root. The wings on the demonstrator would scale out to a little over 10m long. So about 1/3 of the real Concorde wings. Modelling-wise, I think the wings of a 1/200 Revell snap-fit Concorde would work well on a 1/72 Lightning of choice. For 1/48, you could probably use the wings of a 1/144 Concorde.
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