Author Topic: F-104 Ideas and Inspiration  (Read 23362 times)

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Re: F-104 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2012, 05:43:29 AM »
F-15 intakes -  8)
Probablly build that with 1/100 F-15 intakes on 1/72 F-104.
You'd need to do a bit of work, but an exhaust nozzle from that 1/100 F-15 could be used as a starting point to put a PW1120 on that project.

And I've got both just sitting around in a box because all I've used is the flying surfaces off the 1/100 F-15 I've got.  The intakes will need some outside faces though.

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Re: F-104 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2012, 05:58:08 AM »
Delta F-104 anyone...


Included here for completeness......

(Because I got around scanning that book page......)

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Re: F-104 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2012, 06:11:23 AM »
Those conceptual designs look great!
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Re: F-104 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2012, 11:41:57 AM »
^^ Some really nice stuff!  :)
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Just... because!  >:D

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Re: F-104 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2012, 03:17:31 PM »
 :)
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Re: F-104 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2012, 08:54:07 PM »
This reminds me of a question: does anyone have a rough idea on how big a space for radar a F-104G/S/ASA has compared to...... a Sea Harrier FA.2?
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Re: F-104 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2013, 11:20:14 AM »
Some mindless image manipulation:

The new Tu-22U is escorted by a Yak-31 fighter. ;)

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Re: F-104 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2013, 05:11:48 PM »
Anyone tried modelling a Lancer?

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Re: F-104 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2013, 02:09:25 PM »
Does anyone have a photo of the cathedral made from 1:48 F-104s?   


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Re: F-104 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2013, 02:45:16 AM »
Given the Monogram 1:48 F-104s have wings and horizontal stabs are markedly larger than the Hasegawa kit's, it's been tempting to add somewhere between 1/4" and 1/2" to each main wing tip of the American kit, rescribe, and display beside the Japanese kit.  Munitions to be determined. 
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Re: F-104 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2013, 06:46:58 AM »
Beautiful delta-winged V-tailed Belgian Starfighter built by Patrick H:

http://highandlow.org/scale%20models/SF_114.html

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Re: F-104 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2013, 01:37:39 PM »
Wow!  Invited?
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Re: F-104 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #42 on: May 07, 2013, 09:31:59 AM »
Here's a question for our technically minded friends, what do you need to make the F-104 carrier friendly?

This is purely an engineering exercise though
First off is to slow the thing down a bit.
According to Wiki, the F-104 has Boundary layer control (BLC) for the trailing edge flaps, which helps a bit. It also mentions the take off & landing speeds (with BLC?) is 219mph (352km/h) & 207mph (333km/h) respectively.
That's damn fast.

So suggestions, larger wing? (21ft 9in /6.36m) increase span to A-4 size (26ft 6in /8.38m) without the need for wing folding?

I look forward to your comments & suggestions

Ken...

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Re: F-104 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #43 on: May 07, 2013, 02:53:49 PM »
In a way there was a real world naval, carrier based version of the F-104.  This was the CL-1400N ( see pic below).  To get from here to the F-104 you need to follow the path below:

The CL-1400N was derived from the CL-1400 concept and had the cockpit moved to the front for better view during landing. 

The CL-1400 was itself basically a derivative of the CL-1200 proposal with longer fuselage, more powerful engine and increased range.

The Lockheed CL-1200 Lancer was a company-funded proposal for a derivative of the F-104 Starfighter intended for the export market. The CL-1200 design retained the F-104 fuselage, though with a shoulder-mounted wing of larger area moved further aft and a changed tailsection to a more convential shape. It was proposed in August 1970.  This project was not successful since more low cost fighters had been introduced to the market like the Northrop F-5.



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Re: F-104 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #44 on: May 07, 2013, 05:38:52 PM »
Then of course there is this one...



Click on pic for more...and read carefully ;)
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