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Offline Logan Hartke

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Jeez. That's one ship that lives up to its multirole claims.

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Following successful tests of the SEAPAR gun and ESSM fire control radar carried out on an AEGIS cruiser (done experimentally by installing a standalone unit in place of the ship's original AN/SPQ-9 gunfire control radar), Frontier Navy decided to devise a more-optimised installation.  The US provided data on an enclosed mast tested onboard USS Arthur Radford, and that data is subsequently further developed to accommodate the SEAPAR and SPS-49.  The space left behind by the removal of SPQ-9 and relocation of SEAPAR is used to accommodate an infra-red search and tracking sensor.  SPG-62 missile guidance illuminators are replaced with a trainable, more-powerful version of CEAMOUNT active electronically scanned array illuminator, each capable of simultaneous control of multiple SM-2MR and -2ER missiles even when they are all in terminal flight at targets, further improving the upgraded cruisers' ability to deal with saturation attacks.
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A number of FFG-7 class frigates built during the Sages' invasion of Frontier Navy's homeworld more than 20 years ago were fitted with SQQ-23 hull-mounted sonar as production of SQS-56 could not satisfy the wartime emergency shipbuilding programme.

Some of these frigates in turn were equipped with two eight-cell vertical launch systems specifically designed to fire only RUM-139 VL-ASROC in the space otherwise occupied by the starboard side helicopter hangar, consequently reducing each of these frigates' helicopter complement to just one.  Regardless the variants, all FFG-7 class frigates had their Mk.13 launchers modified to fire SM-2MR missiles as global stockpile of SM-1MR missiles was exhausted during the war.  After the end of the war and subsequent formation of Armies of Frontier Nations, all surviving FFG-7 class frigates, minus war-loss replacements allocated to various world governments, were passed on to that global military initiative.

An upgrade, similar to the Australian FFG Upgrade Project, is being instituted and proceeding unabated even as they are all but transferred to Foreign Auxiliary units and no longer part of frontline Carrier/Strike-Cruiser/Battlecruiser Strike Groups or Surface Action Groups.
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The Juno Beach class amphibious transport dock is built with the goal of supporting a possible amphibious operation in the event where the Sages' homeworld is found and diplomacy fails.  To this end, it is amongst the largest ships in Frontier Navy service, outfitted to the highest quality of life standards the Frontier Navy can furnish for the embarked landing forces troops, and is equipped with firepower the equivalent of a frigate in the form of 64-cell Strike Length Mk.41 VLS, two Millennium CIWS, six MLG-27 autocannons, and four 12.7mm heavy machineguns, allowing the ship to both defend itself and to suppress standoff threats for Frontier Army troops ashore.

Of course, the on-going status of search for the Sages and the subversive activities of League of Kings that eventually evolved into open insurgencies meant that these ships were used as much for internal security operations against the warlord alliance as they are in preparation for the eventual showdown against the mysterious entity that invaded their homeworld more than 20 years ago.

Shown here is an example of embarked helicopters from a Frontier Army "Foreign Regiment", basically Frontier Army's counterpart to Frontier Navy's Foreign Auxiliary and primarily employed as regional garrisons in and around Foreign Auxiliary bases, consisting of CH-53E and AH-56D, the latter (which their original operators brought with them upon integration into Armies of Frontier Nations forces organization) having been upgraded with nightfighting optics, Hellfire missile capability, and Longbow radar.

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(As compensation for losing its Longbow AH-56, this gets AH-63 instead.)
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Naval Cheyenne!  8) Brilliant!
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Offline dy031101

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Naval Cheyenne!


Actually...... no more navalized than the Westland Apache  ;)

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The Overlord class Landing Helicopter Dock is meant to support the Juno Beach class vessels by providing more-comprehensive support facilities to Frontier Army or Frontier Fleet Marine Corps helicopters embarked onboard as well as sharing the task of transporting troops and vehicles.

The diverse nature of the Armies of Frontier Nations is well-illustrated by the different combinations of helicopters and ground vehicles that each Overlord class LHD can potentially find itself hosting, depending on the missions.
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The League of Kings and their clients are well-awared of the fact that if their raiding fleets are to stand a chance against the Frontier Navy and co-belligerent forces of off-world civilizations, they need a comparable variety of aerial supporting assets.  Aerial tankers allow their carrier aircraft to stay in the air longer (important, as most of their carriers are afforded with none more inspiring than navalized MiG-21), and electronic intelligence and warfare aircraft are valuable both in guiding raider squadrons into ambush positions and in warning them of or even thwarting enemy search-and-destroy efforts.  While the warlord alliance do possess land-based support platforms, the immense distances often involved in order to provide coverage to their raiding fleets have limited such platforms' responsiveness and flexibility.

Since traditional carrier-based support aircraft are beyond what the majority of their carriers, equipped with skijumps, are capable of launching, and they initially lacked a matured development for a helicopter-based solution, several League of Kings' original founding warbands combined efforts to modify an amphibious aircraft design into several variants, one equipped with a so-called "Balance Beam" active electronically-scanned array radar for airborne early warning role, one serving as an aerial tanker, and one fitted to carry out airborne jamming.

Next challenge comes in the form of ships capable of supporting them.  Unlike Frontier Navy's co-belligerent off-world partners, a few of whom do operate seaplanes as well and proceed to build heavily-armed seaplane carriers and incorporate such ships into naval action groups, the League of Kings prefer the more-concealable auxiliary cruisers and submarines operating outside of already-deployed raider squadrons to support the seaplanes.  The latter option comes in the form of I-590 Type Ho nuclear-powered submarine.

Each I-590 Type Ho is capable of refueling up to three flying boats simultaneously and can carry small spare parts as well as even replacement aircrew; alternatively it can carry up to eight 40-foot ISO containers.  Armaments include six bow-mounted 533mm torpedo tubes with either 12 torpedoes or 24 mines; while the warlord alliance reportedly developed a submarine-launched version of Noor anti-ship missile that can be fired from 533mm torpedo tubes, such missiles are known to have never been issued to these submarines, ostensibly to discourage overzealous behaviours amongst their captains.

Comments and suggestions welcomed.
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One of Frontier Navy's co-belligerent "partners" developed a maritime patrol and airborne early warning seaplane based on a prototype that featured a retractable pontoon hull float in order to mitigate problems with excessive aerodynamic drag imposed by fixed floats or conventional flying boat hulls.

Design evolution includes contra-rotating propellers, turbo-compound engines, improved visibility for observer and navigator, and twin tailfins for airborne early warning derivatives.  A bomb bay is fitted inside the hull float for bombs, torpedoes, or a fuel tank.

(I fully intend to get it put on a ship as soon as possible.)
« Last Edit: April 25, 2015, 02:13:27 PM by dy031101 »
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Amazing how much the twin tails change the look, though ... not to mention a whopping great AEW antenna  ;)
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Re: dy031101's Mental Notes- Project Overlord Going Slowly, former GB entry
« Reply #360 on: June 21, 2015, 01:17:03 PM »
One of my "Extend Service Life" GB entries that did not make the deadline:



After SMS Yorck, a battlecruiser that entered service with Hochseeflotte only to be met by the inconvenient timing of armistice, was allocated to the US as reparation at the end of World War I, her new owner couldn't seem to figure out what to do with her.  Nothing came of any plan for her, including reducing her to a target ship, until the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941.  In an effort to put as many warships into service as possible, the US Navy decided to modernize what was now the USS Yorck.  Her superstructure was rebuilt; 15cm secondary guns were replaced with surplus 5-inch L/51 guns; 8.8cm AA guns were originally planned to be replaced by 5-inch L/25 AA guns but ultimately replaced with 5-inch L/38 dual purpose guns (pedestal mounts with shields) after a series of twists of events; and search radars, new fire control equipments, two stern-mounted seaplane catapults and a crane, and 20mm Oerlikon & 40mm Bofors autocannons were added.

Since the reconstruction didn't do much about her armour protections, the USS Yorck was designated as a "large cruiser" (CB-4) and operated alongside the fully-indigenous Alaska class cruisers in anti-aircraft escort, shore bombardment, and anti-shipping raider roles.  The US Navy attempted to avoid deploying her against German forces; unfortunately, events would not agree- when German light battleship Brunhilde sortied into the Pacific, Yorck was one of the first USN ships to engage and would keep crossing paths with the elusive German battleship at various points during the remainder of the war.

(Now I can go to bed......)

(And yes, Brunhilde is in the work- consider her as a lighter-weight offshoot of the Bismarck class- albeit now stalled due to some technical difficulties.  I might bring it up and ask for help later.)

Comments and suggestions are welcomed.
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Offline dy031101

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Still on what-if verse Earth:



This battlecruiser was originally built in Britain prior to World War I for a neutral country to a design for which Vittorio Cuniberti from Italy acted as a consultant.  As built the ship had a superstructure typical of warships in early 1900s and was armed with 12 12" L/45 guns (four twins and four singles) and 18 3" QF guns (six of them eventually replaced with a high-angle version; the rest are in casemates).  During mid- to late-1930s she underwent a reconstruction; a German firm was hired to create plan for the work and ended up re-designing the superstructure into one that looks a lot like that of Admiral Hipper class cruiser being built for Kriegsmarine.  A catapult paired with a French-made Gourdou-Leseurre GL-813HY scout floatplane replaced the aft mast.  High-angle 3" guns were replaced with twin SK C/32 8.8cm guns; four of the casemate 3" guns were removed and the rest were replaced with 10.5cm L/45 guns.  Light anti-aircraft armaments included four twin 37mm L/83 semi-automatic (one on top of each main gun turret) and four 2cm C/30 autocannons; these would be augmented further during World War II.

(I want to do a theme of "British-built ship re-styled by the Germans" and this is the result.  Comments and suggestions are welcomed.)
« Last Edit: July 01, 2015, 01:41:48 PM by dy031101 »
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In 1943, she received Swedish-made radars, installed on top of forward and aft main gun directors; as a first step to incrementally improve on her anti-aircraft firepower, the semi-automatic 37mm guns and the troublesome Rheinmetall C/30 20mm autocannons were replaced with Bofors 40mm L\60 and Oerlikon 20mm cannons; disputes with Japan led to the political benefit of being able to replace the elderly GL-813HY with floatplane version of the FM-2 Wildcat a.k.a. Wildcatfish.

(I chose Wildcatfish even though single-seat scouts seem very much a late-war concept because I can't think of any non-Axis scout floatplane with folding wings...... if you can think of any, such knowledge would be greatly appreciated.)
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Offline Logan Hartke

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Did I miss where you told us what this ship was? Is this a hypothetical Dutch ship?

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Offline dy031101

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Did I miss where you told us what this ship was? Is this a hypothetical Dutch ship?

Not really, just a ship for a fictional country.  And I haven't figured out what that fictional country would be like, either, since I did this one purely out of a desire to see German-style superstructure on a non-German hull.  ;D
« Last Edit: July 01, 2015, 01:43:33 PM by dy031101 »
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Offline Logan Hartke

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(I chose Wildcatfish even though single-seat scouts seem very much a late-war concept because I can't think of any non-Axis scout floatplane with folding wings...... if you can think of any, such knowledge would be greatly appreciated.)

I think the Supermarine Walrus, Sea Otter, and Seagull all had folding wings. Also, I believe the Curtiss SOC Seagull, Curtiss SO3C Seamew, and Vought XSO2U all had folding wings, as well.

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(I chose Wildcatfish even though single-seat scouts seem very much a late-war concept because I can't think of any non-Axis scout floatplane with folding wings...... if you can think of any, such knowledge would be greatly appreciated.)

I think the Supermarine Walrus, Sea Otter, and Seagull all had folding wings. Also, I believe the Curtiss SOC Seagull, Curtiss SO3C Seamew, and Vought XSO2U all had folding wings, as well.

Cheers,

All the Supermarines definitely did.

Logan

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(I chose Wildcatfish even though single-seat scouts seem very much a late-war concept because I can't think of any non-Axis scout floatplane with folding wings...... if you can think of any, such knowledge would be greatly appreciated.)


I think the Supermarine Walrus, Sea Otter, and Seagull all had folding wings. Also, I believe the Curtiss SOC Seagull, Curtiss SO3C Seamew, and Vought XSO2U all had folding wings, as well.


All the Supermarines definitely did.




Walrus it would be then (I see the only reason for the British to give any scout plane to anyone other than fellow Commonwealth members and the Russians being the influx of US-made scouts and partial replacement by radars though).  The Bofors 40mm guns are now in twins while we are at it.   ;)

Not sure if four rangefinders would be enough for the Bofors, but I don't know where to put more......

Admittedly I'm not even sure if I'm using the right fire control equipment......
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What would be very nice as well as whiffy would be a Fulmar or Firefly float plane  ;)

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An attempt to "update" a World War I armoured cruiser for service during World War II.  It's a Roon class cruiser made in Germany, but suppose it was sold off before the end of World War I to another country that ended up not getting along with the Axis powers, hence the non-German aircraft.  I'm just getting started (at least I hope so)- fire control equipment would be next for me to mess around with......

Though I'd like to ask for suggestions on two things.  I've replaced the cruiser's main guns with 10.5cm AA guns, but does anyone know of any good dual-purpose destroyer guns in the '30s?  I first attempted to use the 5"/38, but the gun crew platform won't fit into those positions.  5"/25 seems compact enough, and it was said that it was considered for arming destroyers before 5"/38 came along.  I do remember seeing a proposal drawing of turning destroyer escorts into bombardment ships via re-arming with 5"/25......

And second, does anyone know of a non-Axis floatplane that is equipped with radar and folding wing?  I know that Swordfish has both a floatplane version and a radar-equipped version, but it would seem to me that the floats would have interfered with radar operation.  And I reckon the floatplane used can't be too much bigger than Friedrichshafen FF.49 that the German designers originally had in mind......

Thanks in advance.  Other comments and suggestions are also welcomed.
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And second, does anyone know of a non-Axis floatplane that is equipped with radar and folding wing?


What about the Latécoère 298.  Not sure if it was ever fitted with radar in the real world, but it could possibly have if some had continued to operate during the war...


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And second, does anyone know of a non-Axis floatplane that is equipped with radar and folding wing?


What about the Latécoère 298.  Not sure if it was ever fitted with radar in the real world, but it could possibly have if some had continued to operate during the war...



Go with a wing-leading-edge pod like the nightfighter F5F and F4U variants, but use one on each wing and possibly one under the rear fuselage to obtain adequate coverage.

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And second, does anyone know of a non-Axis floatplane that is equipped with radar and folding wing?
What about the Latécoère 298.  Not sure if it was ever fitted with radar in the real world, but it could possibly have if some had continued to operate during the war...
Go with a wing-leading-edge pod like the nightfighter F5F and F4U variants, but use one on each wing and possibly one under the rear fuselage to obtain adequate coverage.

How would Yagi antenna (as used on Japanese floatplanes) compare to podded setup in terms of weight v.s. performance?
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Possibly more draggy but it depends upon how many antenna.  It also might depend upon the nature of your radar (i.e. its background) and the look you are trying for.
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Offline dy031101

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Possibly more draggy but it depends upon how many antenna.  It also might depend upon the nature of your radar (i.e. its background) and the look you are trying for.

I was thinking of licence production of the aircraft so that possibly it could continue to be built after the fall of France.  As for where the radar should come from...... I don't know if Sweden managed to come up with an airborne radar during WWII.

US-made radars would be a desirable alternative, I suppose.  If weight is not a problem, then elmayerle's idea seems good since Latécoère 298 IIRC doesn't have underwing hardpoints for a removable pod......
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