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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2025, 01:21:03 AM »
Some of those bounces must have really hurt...

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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2025, 05:57:05 AM »
As a build, this is great, really like the added bits. Waiting to see how it looks together, not that we will see much I would imagine

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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2025, 10:15:11 AM »
Getting close. Today's adventure was fixing the outrigger wheels, jokes that they are. One known problem with this kit is that the wheel halves don't fit into the spats. I solved it by cutting off the upper half of the outer section, since it isn't load bearing.
The modified wheel is above the sprue, the red dashed line indicates where to make the cut on the unmodified wheel:



I also painted the big tire and realized I also had to extend the olive drab down the frame a bit. I've since done a better job painting the OD. I glued a front and rear half and they click onto the frame. They'll need some cyanoacrylate to hold in place, though:



Some videos of a real monowheel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvA7hDh_vhY

This kid seems to enjoy going over horseshit. Which illustrates an issue with these open frame wheels:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvA7hDh_vhY

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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2025, 04:59:43 PM »
She's looking great, Frank! 8) :smiley:
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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2025, 07:23:55 PM »
Really nice work

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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2025, 11:04:02 AM »
99% done - just have to take pictures in sunlight.

Doors open:



I had to sand down the bottom of the tire because the ball tank has a tendency to roll forward (where it gets stopped by the 37mm barrel) or back, where the side wheels keep it from rolling back. It still rocks back and forth, but not as badly.

Inventor's mark:



I slapped together a quick figure of the inventor. I used one of the figures from the Miniart Auto Travelers 1930 - 40s re-positioned the right arm, and added a new right hand and head from random figure parts I had in my spares box.




Backstory:
Aaron D. Tuit was in the US Army during WWI and experienced trench warfare at Meuse-Argonne. Horrified by the experience, he envisioned a device that could easily roll over barbed wire and trenches. After the war and hoping to put those memories behind him, he became a businessman, owning a small but successful foundry in Kansas.

In the mid 1930s, the US Army was seeking to modernize their tank forces.  This rekindled Mr. Tuit's desire to build his ball tank and also to support his business. With a contract from the Army, he was finally able to bring the Tuit Ball Tank to reality.

The ball tank was powered by a 201-cubic-inch straight four engine from a Ford AA truck.  The main weapon was the new 37mm borrowed from the Army, with  a .30 machine gun for rear protection.

After testing in the factory parking lot, the design looked promising. The Army had the ball tank transported to the Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland, where the many flaws in the design became apparent. Army testing officers noted the following shortcomings:

1 -The driver has very poor and limited visibility from his single vision slit and only of objects and obstacles directly ahead on the left side of the tank.
2- The 37 mm gun has a limited range of motion and can only effectively engage targets on the left forward quadrant of the tank. Targets on the right side are only visible when they're beyond effective range.
3- The 37mm loader has a difficult time reaching the ammunition and loading it into the gun. The most effective solution was to have the loader remove the round from the rack but have the gunner load the weapon. Gunner and loader could switch tasks due to fatigue, but this requires training two gunners.
4- There is very little space for the gunner when aiming and firing the gun. Some gunners were injured by the recoil.
5- The tank Commander is on the driver side of the tank, with a periscope that only provides very limited view of targets on the left side of the tank. The tank commander must stand to look through the periscope, which precludes effective target acquisition while the tank is moving.
6- A field modification was attempted, by swapping the fume extractor and tank commander periscope positions. This allowed the tank commander slightly more effective targeting and range calculations, but he also had to act as loader. The fume extractor was found to be ineffective in its new position and the tank filled with both engine and gun fumes, requiring that the tank be operated with the armored doors open. This was not considered to be an ideal situation in combat.
7- During trials, volunteer troops had no difficulty approaching the tank from the rear right, even knocking on the tank's hull before retreating. The .30 cal machine gun on the left side was considered somewhat effective, but again, with a very limited field of fire.
8- The tank is not able to ford streams deeper than three feet. In addition, the main wheel is not sealed by gaskets, allowing water to collect at the bottom of the tank and fall from the top of the tank as it attempts to cross the stream.
9- The two side wheels prevent the tank from rolling side to side, but are of limited effectiveness in keeping the tank from rocking back and forth, either while driving or firing the main gun. Crews expressed concerned that the tank might roll uncontrollably, much like a pet gerbil in a small ball ("gerbilling")
10- The tank was not tested on steep inclines. It is capable of climbing small hills, but on the last test run, it rolled forward on the down slope. The crew believes "Gerbilling" was prevented by the 37mm slamming into the ground and acting as a brake.
11- Directional control is achieved by applying brakes to the left or right side of the main tire. This results in a slow and wide turning radius.

Heart broken by the Army's rejection of his tank, Mr. Tuit returned to Kansas and focused on his business, leaving the Ball tank behind.

When asked about removing or scraping the Ball tank, officers at Aberdeen said that they would get Aaron D. Tuit ...


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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2025, 11:06:25 AM »
Love it !  :smiley:   I see you have a Round Tuit as well ;)

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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2025, 11:18:16 AM »
Very good! 8)

Build & story match perfectly. ;D :smiley:
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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2025, 12:51:04 PM »
Classic! Mr. Tuit had good intentions. He wasn’t alone. There were all kinds of crazy ideas once WW 2 became obvious.

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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2025, 02:11:21 PM »
Great job :smiley:

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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2025, 04:18:22 PM »
Too many folks expect whiff builds to reflect be the perfect AFV - the best gun, best armour, best manoeuvrability, etc, but life just isn’t like that.  History is full of AFV that just didn’t make the grade - and to be honest, they are the most fun to build. 

Your ball tank is a great example of when things don’t work out - poor old Aaron!

A wonderful build and great backstory.  Bravo Sir, bravo!!  :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza:
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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2025, 10:12:52 PM »
Frank, that is an excellent back story to go with your Ball Tank.  I was a bit surprised to see it in OD Green with a white star but it works out well especially with your figure standing next to the vehicle. 
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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2025, 01:29:30 AM »
 :smiley:
All hail the God of Frustration!!!

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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2025, 01:30:50 AM »




It would be tempting to model something like this - open - but as a civilian vehicle of some type.
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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2025, 01:46:00 AM »
It would be tempting to model something like this - open - but as a civilian vehicle of some type.


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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2025, 01:51:25 AM »

Heart broken by the Army's rejection of his tank, Mr. Tuit returned to Kansas and focused on his business, leaving the Ball tank behind.

When asked about removing or scraping the Ball tank, officers at Aberdeen said that they would get Aaron D. Tuit ...

Perfect story, perfectly US Army conclusion.  ;D

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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2025, 01:59:06 AM »

I can imagine it coming down a hill to fast so the driver applies the brakes but they lock up and then the whole tank just starts rolling wit the crew spinning around inside ;D



... vomit spraying everywhere inside.


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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2025, 04:24:27 AM »
Greg - I was temped to leave the sides off. It would definitely expose the driver and passengers to the "fresh air"



I like this one because I re-positioned the tank and figure and it looks like one of the outrigger wheels is falling off the base. I didn't notice it until I processed the image. The tank is actually balanced on a small pebble, which illustrates the problem with this idea:



Front:


Rear. I forgot to add dust/dirt to the gun side hatch:


Left/driver's side:


Right/gun side:


Thanks for all the comments!  This was a fun build.


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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2025, 05:31:32 AM »
With the rest of the crew.. marvellous work. Well done all around.

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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2025, 05:49:49 AM »
You know, all the various ball tank builds should be dumped into one PDF 8 1/2 x 112 mockumentary, "BALL TANKS IN ACTION".

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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2025, 10:20:56 AM »
Thanks, Brian.

You know, all the various ball tank builds should be dumped into one PDF 8 1/2 x 112 mockumentary, "BALL TANKS IN ACTION".

Rolling down hills, getting stuck in craters ("it's a fixed fortification!") turned into pools or large salad bowls. The famous battle where a ball tank lost control and crashed through the enemy line - thinking it was a movable, giant American version of the "bouncing Betty", the Germans fled from their trenches and fortifications. Then there was the ill-fated attempt to parachute the ball tanks behind enemy lines by rolling then off the rear ramp of a Flying Boxcar.

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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2025, 12:11:16 PM »
You know, all the various ball tank builds should be dumped into one PDF 8 1/2 x 112 mockumentary, "BALL TANKS IN ACTION".


Now that’s a Good Idea!!

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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #47 on: March 22, 2025, 01:38:57 PM »
Subtitled "An Extraordinarily Bad Idea"

Here ya go - new build.

The history of the vehicle is practically unknown other than the fact that at least one example was exported to the Empire of Japan and used by the Kwantung Army.    :icon_nif:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kugelpanzer
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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
« Reply #48 on: March 22, 2025, 01:51:21 PM »
turned into pools or large salad bowls.


Don't forget the California motorcycle club that bought an unfinished and demilitarized (armor removed) one from a Fort Ord surplus sale in 1947.



Then there was the ill-fated attempt to parachute the ball tanks behind enemy lines by rolling then off the rear ramp of a Flying Boxcar.

Historical precedent - the Soviets experimented with dropping BMDs with their crews inside.
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Re: 1/35 Ball tank
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