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Re: Consolidated B-24 Liberator and PB4Y Privateer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #50 on: July 16, 2019, 06:41:10 AM »
A B-12.

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Re: Consolidated B-24 Liberator and PB4Y Privateer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #51 on: July 16, 2019, 06:44:36 AM »
That looks fantastic!  Definitely worth building.
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Re: Consolidated B-24 Liberator and PB4Y Privateer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #52 on: July 17, 2019, 01:51:43 AM »
Twin R-3350 powered concepts for the USAAC and USN. Like some other projects
they came to nothing because of the demand for the R-3350 on other programs,
primarily the B-29.


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The real B-12 was the B-10 with the P&W R-1820 Cyclones replaced with Wright R-1690 Hornets.

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Re: Consolidated B-24 Liberator and PB4Y Privateer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #53 on: April 05, 2021, 03:24:32 AM »
Cool shot:



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Re: Consolidated B-24 Liberator and PB4Y Privateer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #54 on: April 07, 2021, 01:43:00 AM »
Something different:



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Re: Consolidated B-24 Liberator and PB4Y Privateer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #55 on: April 07, 2021, 02:29:43 AM »
More:


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Re: Consolidated B-24 Liberator and PB4Y Privateer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #56 on: April 07, 2021, 10:15:11 AM »
It has no right to, but that really works. I think because the Davis wing is the only concession to aerodynamics the Liberator ever had, the streamlined Allisons don't seam nearly as out of place as I'd have expected them to. The cowlings seem to match early P-38s pretty closely.

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« Reply #57 on: April 08, 2021, 04:20:26 AM »
... The cowlings seem to match early P-38s pretty closely.

I was thinking that too. Odd that this versions has those early Lightning cowlings while those in Reply #54 look more like XP-40 cowls. I suppose the difference is supercharged versus turbocharged?

I note some variation in the Reply #55 images as well. The upper artwork has radiators let into the leading edge. The lower image lacks those leading edge inlets but has intakes on either side of the turbos.
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Re: Consolidated B-24 Liberator and PB4Y Privateer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #58 on: April 08, 2021, 05:45:04 AM »
I noticed that, too, and definitely prefer the P-38 vs the P-40 cowlings in this instance. I think the lower image in #55 has the turbo-supercharger and the upper one doesn't (like the Lockheed Model 322 Lightnings for the French & British).

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Re: Consolidated B-24 Liberator and PB4Y Privateer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #59 on: April 08, 2021, 07:48:04 AM »

Some of you may have seen this, but those who don't (and those who have, but still not spotted all stuffs): it's pretty much an "almost" XB-41, with two turrets both on top and bottom + radar-guided 20mm gun turret on nose and tail (althought on the bottom)



The XB-24N Liberator - the next generation had the A-bomb not been drop

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 In 1943, a single B-24D-40-CO (42-40234) had been experimentally fitted with a single fin-and-rudder assembly as the XB-24K. This experiment was so successful that in April of 1944 the USAAF decided that all future production Liberators would have a single vertical tail. The B-24N was to have been an adaptation of this design for production by Ford/Willow Run. This aircraft differed from the XB-24K primarily in having revised nose and tail gun positions. The nose had a unique Sperry-built "ball" turret, and the tail turret was not unlike that on the Boeing B-17 fortress.

The XB-24N (44-48753) was the prototype and was delivered on Nov 24, 1944. In addition to the XB-24N, seven YB-24Ns were completed before Liberator production terminated at Ford on May 31, 1945. At this time, orders for 5168 Ford-built B-24N-FO bombers were cancelled. The delivery of the few YB-24Ns by Ford brought the production of the Liberator to an end.
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Re: Consolidated B-24 Liberator and PB4Y Privateer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #60 on: April 09, 2021, 01:51:27 AM »
What is the guys doing to the top turret on that last one? ;)
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Re: Consolidated B-24 Liberator and PB4Y Privateer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #61 on: April 09, 2021, 01:53:40 AM »
I noticed that, too, and definitely prefer the P-38 vs the P-40 cowlings in this instance. I think the lower image in #55 has the turbo-supercharger and the upper one doesn't (like the Lockheed Model 322 Lightnings for the French & British).

Agreed - a couple of P-38 engines might be a good sacrifice to do a build of this one.  Once could always do the reverse engine swap as well and have a pair of P&W R-1830 powered P-38s result as well. ;)
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Re: Consolidated B-24 Liberator and PB4Y Privateer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #62 on: April 09, 2021, 02:04:58 AM »
Note different dorsal turret:

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Re: Consolidated B-24 Liberator and PB4Y Privateer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #63 on: April 09, 2021, 02:08:49 AM »
Has anyone seen a photo of the single RB-24L which was supposedly developed for training B-29 gunners on an identical remote gun system installed on a B-24L.
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Re: Consolidated B-24 Liberator and PB4Y Privateer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #64 on: April 09, 2021, 03:07:55 AM »
Note different dorsal turret:



I think you'll find the rear turret was the same one usually found in a Halifax too. I found a photo of it but of course, not now. I bought bits & bobs so I could build one of the B-24's I have like it.

Like this below
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