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Hughes H-1 Racer Ideas and Inspiration
« on: September 24, 2024, 02:37:43 AM »
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Re: Hughes H-1 Racer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2024, 02:38:02 AM »
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Re: Hughes H-1 Racer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2024, 08:54:22 AM »
That looks really sharp! Guns in the wing?
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Re: Hughes H-1 Racer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2024, 12:55:45 AM »
I would expect in the fuselage
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Re: Hughes H-1 Racer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2024, 05:05:04 AM »
I would expect in the fuselage

Yep. In Jeff Duford's article on Hughes in Air Power History, he mentions that Palmer intended the twin gun armament for the XP-2 (militarized H-1 derivative) to be mounted in the wing fillets. Duford also speculated that a larger R-1830 might be adopted. So, more power but also increased frontal area.

Having recently played around with the notion of a militarized H-1, I can say that little or nothing of the original racer would be left. The fuselage has to be deepened for the Twin Wasp (and for pilot visibility) and the XP-2 wings were to be extended (by comparison with even the long-span H-1 wings). Duford also mentions an elliptical wing profile ... although, I suspect, that means on the trailing edge (as per Seversky).

There is no mention of actual wing area for the XP-2 but the long, 9.67 m span H-1 wings were only 0.58% the size of the wing of the rival Curtiss Model 75A (0.62% of the Seversky SEV-1XP). So a biiig increase in wing area would be needed for the Hughes pursuit to match the manoeuvrability of its rivals.

So, instead of meeting USAAC Spec X–603 for a pursuit, perhaps our militarized H-1 should be a fast-climbing, point-defence interceptor?
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Re: Hughes H-1 Racer Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2025, 02:40:54 AM »




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