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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #315 on: March 15, 2019, 08:25:41 AM »
IIRC, there was a whole thread on a swing-wing naval F-15 by crossing a F-111 kit with an F-15.  Anyone else remember this one?

Addendum:  I was in error, the thread was on the What-If Forum and was a 2006 build by anthonyP,
http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,12610.msg173290.html#msg173290

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #316 on: March 15, 2019, 10:16:47 AM »
Yeah, they're all gone now. Shame. :(

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #317 on: March 15, 2019, 10:28:24 AM »
"Spined" F-15s. Did these for the Soviet GB a while back, but - apparently - never posted them in this thread.

MiG-29SMT-style hump:

F-15_SMT by Motschke, on Flickr

Quoting myself from the original thread (Taaidantomcat's F-15ski - LINK)
"Taking kerick's idea of modified stabs and adding some further MiG-29 doodads:
The stabs are from a MiG-25 and are to scale. I tried MiG-29 stabs, but they're either too small (same scale) or too big (MiG-29 in a bigger scale than the F-15). Personally, I'd try to mod the F-15 stabs to a more Fulcrum-ish look (add fin fillet and flare launchers, angled cut-off at the top).
Depending on the version of R-27 used, it may be impossible to get a pair in tandem on the flanks.
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F-15_SMT_2 by Motschke, on Flickr


F-15 "Foxhound". Not sure I like the look. Originally wanted to put AA-9/R-33s on it, but... well... didn't.

F-15_Foxhound by Motschke, on Flickr

Okay, "never operationally" work better?

Sure.  ;)
The background information states it's an AIM-4.


I like the Foxhound version a lot! I'm wondering if it would be possible to move the air brake to the top of the hump? Just thinking off the top of my head here. I may have to get out my F-15E kit from the stash and do some comparisons.

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #318 on: March 15, 2019, 11:10:22 AM »
Moving the airbrake to the top of the spine should be possible, though I think I'd run the spine all the way back and have the slope a bit more gentle.  You might need to run it down the sides of the spine and out a bit onto the upper surface to get enough area (neither the standard F-15 nor the SU-27 family have small airbrakes).

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #319 on: March 15, 2019, 11:28:27 AM »
Though I believe that's an AIM-26, not an AIM-4.
The background information states it's an AIM-4.

I was kinda having the XAIM-4H and its what-if development in mind- I've been under the impression that it would be based on the smaller AIM-4D airframe.

I was aware of the picture but never paid attention to the fact that it was the bigger AIM-4G.
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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #320 on: March 16, 2019, 03:24:55 AM »
Well, the F-15 could have become VG if the early LFAX-4 concept was developed:


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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #321 on: March 16, 2019, 04:21:07 AM »
Interesting view for the super detailing crowd:

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #322 on: March 16, 2019, 04:28:17 AM »
I don't know of a 1/48 F-15SMTD and even the 1/72 one by Hasegawa does not have the 2-D engine nozzles.  OTOH, the canards are F-18 horizontals so that gives you a start.

You are right re the canards.  Does anyone have good drawings of the 2D nozzle?
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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #323 on: March 16, 2019, 04:44:24 AM »
IIRC, there was a whole thread on a swing-wing naval F-15 by crossing a F-111 kit with an F-15.  Anyone else remember this one?

Addendum:  I was in error, the thread was on the What-If Forum and was a 2006 build by anthonyP,
http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php/topic,12610.msg173290.html#msg173290

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Here you go - some of the images from that thread:







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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #324 on: March 16, 2019, 05:52:56 AM »
Interesting view for the super detailing crowd:



Lots of empty space around that gun! Hmmmm, pack it full of six packs, fly a quick mission, come back with cold beer.....

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #325 on: March 16, 2019, 09:23:45 AM »
Lots of empty space around that gun! Hmmmm, pack it full of six packs, fly a quick mission, come back with cold beer.....

That'll only work as long as you don't fire the gun.  The Vulcan generates a lot of heat...

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #326 on: March 16, 2019, 01:49:36 PM »
Lots of empty space around that gun! Hmmmm, pack it full of six packs, fly a quick mission, come back with cold beer.....

That'll only work as long as you don't fire the gun.  The Vulcan generates a lot of heat...

Yes, I'm afraid there would be a lot of broken glass too!

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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #327 on: March 17, 2019, 11:58:28 AM »
Just a thought for a couple reduced observables tweaks to the F-15.  In the intakes, install vaned radar absorbers as proposed for the production X-32 variant.  Update the exhaust nozzles with production versions combining the LOAN (Low Observable Axisymmetric Nozzle) and AVEN (Axisymmetric Vectoring Exhaust Nozzle) test programs; you could probably use a pair of F135 nozzles from the F-35A.  Looking at the pictures above, I could also see a rotating cover on the M61 barrels to hide them when not firing (much as the output end of the F-35A's gun has a cover when not firing).

Addendum: The thought occurs to me that these same approaches could also be applied to updated F-14 variants, too.
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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #328 on: March 18, 2019, 01:32:00 AM »
the output end of the F-35A's gun

 ;D  That's one way of describing it.
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Re: McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #329 on: March 18, 2019, 01:37:09 AM »
Just a thought for a couple reduced observables tweaks to the F-15.  In the intakes, install vaned radar absorbers as proposed for the production X-32 variant.  Update the exhaust nozzles with production versions combining the LOAN (Low Observable Axisymmetric Nozzle) and AVEN (Axisymmetric Vectoring Exhaust Nozzle) test programs; you could probably use a pair of F135 nozzles from the F-35A.  Looking at the pictures above, I could also see a rotating cover on the M61 barrels to hide them when not firing (much as the output end of the F-35A's gun has a cover when not firing).

Addendum: The thought occurs to me that these same approaches could also be applied to updated F-14 variants, too.

Maybe call it a F-15 Super Silent Eagle.
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