Author Topic: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)  (Read 2593 times)

Offline Twiddle

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2018, 08:05:10 PM »
Some progress today.

Initially thought of chucking it in the bin (taking way longer than I planned  :o :( ) however I will continue  :))

Started with the sponson supports

Right hand side





The gap will be used for the power plant

Left hand side



Topside view

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Offline perttime

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2018, 09:27:37 PM »
Hmmmm. I have a suspicion about nationality....

Offline Brian da Basher

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2018, 06:40:36 AM »
I'm glad you're going to see this build through!

Work of this caliber should indeed be taken to its conclusion.

Three cheers!
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Brian da Basher

Offline Old Wombat

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2018, 03:13:20 PM »
Hmmmm. I have a suspicion about nationality....

Does it involve a blue six-pointed star on a white background? ???
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Offline perttime

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2018, 08:38:48 PM »
I wasn't thinking of a six-pointed star - although that would be logical from the technical point of view.

Offline Twiddle

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2018, 10:57:31 PM »
Some progress on the LH sponson





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Offline Brian da Basher

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2018, 01:17:30 AM »
That's some fine looking work, Twiddle!

You have some serious modeling chops!

It never ceases to amaze me how much you can do with just a bit of card.

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Offline finsrin

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2018, 05:39:34 AM »
Ambitious build you are following thru with.  Is lesson in plastic surgery we can all learn from.
Liking the pictures.

Offline Twiddle

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2018, 10:51:54 PM »
Haven't  had too much time for whiffing

small amount of progress

Left sponson more or less done



I am toying with the idea of making this a wheeled APC .

Photo shows a 1/35 DEF Model HEMTT wheel for comparison. Too small or plausible in real life?

Might have to source 1/16 scale military tyres should the 1/35 wheels look too small ...

Front view



right hand side sponson



Gap will be used for engine exhaust

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Offline Frank3k

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2018, 01:20:52 AM »
I think the HEMTT  wheels look good - compare them to the Centauro or a LAV.
 
The hardest part will be scratchbuilding the suspension, unless you have a set handy.

Offline Rickshaw

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2018, 07:28:34 PM »
If it is to be wheeled, you'll need to lose about 10-15% of your internal space to allow for the turning circle required - unless you make it skid-steer.  Skid-steer haven't been terribly successful as military vehicles.  The British tried a six-wheeled vehicle out until they realised that they would have to replace the tyres appreciably faster than in a normally steered vehicle.  The French, with their AMX-10 armoured car, decided they could wear the cost and made it skid steer.

Offline tankmodeler

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2018, 12:20:51 AM »
The sides of the lower hull definitely aren't suitable for any even partially realistic wheeled suspension system as was mentioned, plus, if the aim is to make this a _heavy_ APC, wheels definitely aren't the way to go. Ground pressure is already high for the larger wheeled APCs around today, compromising mobility off road. A heavy APC (Namer is running 60 tons!) would have really bad manoeuverability on wheels over rough or soft ground and would probably need 5 or even 6 wheels per side to be able to support itself even half reasonably.

I'd back off on the wheeled suspension and stick with tracks.

Paul

Offline Brian da Basher

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2018, 01:10:44 AM »
Personally I like the wheels too. It's an interesting change and I think they'll look good under those sponsons.

All whiffs involve some degree of implausibility.

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« Last Edit: October 23, 2018, 02:58:20 AM by Brian da Basher »

Offline Twiddle

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2018, 04:54:08 AM »
Going with the tracks.

The HEMTT wheels I want to save for other projects  >:D ;)

This is one helluva bash - seeing that I've never built a kit before tackling this one.

Keep on making mistakes - but ja this in turns results in a continuous improvement (aka Industrial Engineering what I studied at Uni.)

Challenging but fun.

Thanks for making BtS so great :)
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Offline Twiddle

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Re: Norsu Heavy APC (M113 / Centurion kitbash)
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2019, 11:51:03 PM »
Wow ... cannot believe this has stalled for so long  :o :icon_surprised:

Okay - time to get this build on again - slowly but surely

Front profile. The roof is still to be attached to the hull.



Hull Rear. I mounted the side "sponson" thingies next to the hatch to make it look cool

Standard M113 hatch to be fitted



Right side. The opening is for the exhaust. Going to do a Merkava style exhaust .



Left side.



As always - thanks for making BtS so great
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