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Re: Peruvian A5M
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2015, 06:06:47 AM »
I really like this scenario, since Japanese intervention/support/trouble was a real concern in the US. While looking for early Peruvian AF pictures, I found this article on basically, a Peruvian Panzer 38(t):

So Japanese tanks may not be unreasonable... although in real life, the Japanese-Peruvian-relationship was not all that warm:

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Re: Peruvian A5M
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2015, 05:42:46 AM »
It's true that the Japanese - Peruvian relationship IRL was not great.  In real life, the Japanese intentionally focused on the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere, and did not attempt to meddle in the western hemisphere much at all.  They apparently did make efforts to help the Japanese in Peru to maintain their Japanese cultural heritage.  However, in my scenario, the Japanese government takes a wholly different approach to Japanese - Peruvian relations and sets out to build close ties that will allow Peru to become a foothold in the Americas.  This involved encouraging Japanese-Peruvians (issei and nissei) to partially assimilate and work toward leadership positions in Peruvian culture.  It also involved military aid, of course.  In my scenario the Japanese will seek to get detailed intel on Panama Canal transits and perhaps even threaten the canal itself later in the war.  They may also attempt to create a second foothold closer to the US mainland in Mexico, but will be ultimately unsuccessful. 

I'm not much of a tank guy, but from what I read, the LTP was specifically developed for Peruvian conditions and was quite successful and well-liked.  Of course with a larger scale conflict to deal with, the Peruvians would have had need for more tanks, which could not come from Czechoslovakia.  So, Japanese tanks like the Type 97 may make an appearance, but would change the nature of the conflict as they would be restricted to the lower-elevation coastal plains (whereas the LTP could operate in the high-elevation mountains). 

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Peruvian - Japanese Connection
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2015, 09:24:32 AM »
By 1936, the Cuerpo Aeronáutico del Perú was extremely unhappy with the Ca 111 which had been procured from Italy as bombers.  In negotiations with Caproni (through the Peruvian subsidiary, Caproni Peruana), a specially modified version of the Ca 135, known as the Ca 135 Tipo Peru, was created.  This had many of the qualities that the Peruvians desired, but proved unreliable in Peruvian service.  As a result, only the six Italian-built Tipo Peru were purchased.  All six had been delivered by 1937.  Planned production in Peru was cancelled.

[all of the above is true in the "real world" - the following is NOT!]

Besides their reliability problems, the Ca 135s were disappointing in both range and service ceiling.  With potential targets in surrounding nations as high as 10,000' elevation, the Ca-135's 21,000' ceiling was insufficient, and it's range of only 727 miles was even worse.  Therefore, in 1939 the Peruvians turned to the Japanese, with whom a growing military relationship had been developing.  After extended negotiations, the Japanese agreed to sell the Peruvians a manufacturing license for the Mitsubishi G3M2 Model 21, which had by then been superseded on the Mitsubishi lines by the Model 22 (and the G4M ("Betty") was in flight test).  The Japanese also sent two disassembled G3M2 Model 21s as pattern aircraft. 

The G3M was much more satisfactory in Peruvian service, with a service ceiling of over 30,000' and a range almost four times that of the Tipo Peru.  Reliability was also much improved. 

Caproni Peruana assembled the imported G3M2s, and began tooling up for full scale production.  Progress was slow, and Peruvian production G3Ms did not begin to enter service until mid-1943.  The two pattern aircraft though, were pressed into CAP service and served alongside the Ca 135s in the 1941 war with Ecuador.  One of those aircraft is shown in the profile below. 

More to come...

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Re: Peruvian A5M
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2015, 10:21:15 AM »
Outstanding!  I think I just worked out what to do with my 1/48 kit...
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Re: Peruvian A6M
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2015, 04:04:24 PM »
By 1944, Japanese exports to Peru were nearing an end.  Nevertheless, 26 surplus Mitsubishi A6M2 fighters were delivered to the CAP in May of 1944, were they were known as the Cero.  Shown here is one of the Ceros serving with the 43 Escuadrilla at Chiclayo.