Author Topic: A Civilized BV222  (Read 15089 times)

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A Civilized BV222
« on: November 25, 2014, 09:51:48 AM »
hi guys

Well, after having trouble finding inspiration on what to build next, I posted the question to you all
It seems that a civil version of the BV-222 was the most popular choice, and I like the idea too. So that's what I'm doing now
I've decided to add cabin lighting and detail and also I will motorize all 6 props. It will be displayed in flight as well. If I find the right figures, I'll even add some passengers.

So where am I up to - not far, but in my defense, I did have to find the right way to motorize it. Upon looking through my drawer of stuff, I found just what I was looking for - 6 miniature motors that fit - as it turns out - just beautifully between the leading edge of the wing and the engine cowling.
I'm using telescoping brass tube as a prop shaft to maximize strength.





The wings have a plastic strip covering the bottom of the gun mounting on the wings acting as a plug and a small ball of Milliput was used to fill it in. It has since been sanded and re-scribed since taking these pics. The camera battery went flat so I haven't been able to update them since



I've decided to make the interior look "opulent" by going for a plush red velvet kind of color  Wine Red in this case. I am right now casting (a very first for me) some more of the upstairs chairs to go in the passenger compartment. The chairs themselves actually look pretty comfy and are ideal for the interior. Once the warm white SMD's do their thing, the whole space will look quite relaxed. The colors are appropriate for that time period



I am still on the look out for the right scheme. I like the combination of white and bare metal. So it would be black on the bottom, white in the middle and bare metal up top - or the other way around with white on the top and bare metal in the middle. Or just plain white or BM?...with a stripe running through the middle?  :-\
Any ideas would be welcomed
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Re: A Civilized BV222
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2014, 10:12:55 AM »
LOVE the idea!!!!

As for colors, the white, bare metal and black scheme sounds just fine.  Black for the bottom of the floats and hull and white for the upper surfaces to help reflect heat.  In other words if you viewed it from above, the whole fuselage should be a solid white shape so the color would carry down the sides a bit.  Add some black panels for engine exhaust, wing walks, and anti-glare panels for the cockpit.

PLEASE continue  :)
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Re: A Civilized BV222
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2014, 10:51:08 AM »
The white in top might help in mitigating heat absorption during day time flights in the warmer parts of the planet like Africa, the Caribbean, South America, or, Australia :)

The red interior reminds me of the wood paneling that was popular at one time with rich red-brown colored wood being one of the more popular types. 
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Re: A Civilized BV222
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2014, 01:52:47 AM »
The white in top might help in mitigating heat absorption during day time flights in the warmer parts of the planet like Africa, the Caribbean, South America, or, Australia :)

The red interior reminds me of the wood paneling that was popular at one time with rich red-brown colored wood being one of the more popular types.


I agree.  Maybe do something similar to this Latécočre 631:



Maybe do it in something like Aerolíneas Argentinas markings flying the Germany-Buenos Aires route or Luft Hansa doing similar?
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Re: A Civilized BV222
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2014, 06:51:16 AM »
This is a great idea and it looks like you're off to an excellent start!

Hard to argue with Mr GTX's suggestion. Seems an absolute natural!

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Re: A Civilized BV222
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2014, 07:38:52 AM »
I do like that Aerolíneas Argentinas scheme. I have been having troubles locating a colour image of a 1940's Lufthansa aircraft that doesn't have a friggin swaz sticker on the tail. Has anyone got a colour image of a normal - non-Nzai plane from the late 40's?
If I can't find a decent image, I may well go with the Aerolíneas Argentinas version - although I would be hard pressed to find a plausable back story for it
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Re: A Civilized BV222
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2014, 07:53:37 AM »
I did a google search for Lufthansa DC-3, assuming it would bracket WWII:

http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=310519

Also, the first Lufthansa plane:



« Last Edit: November 26, 2014, 08:00:24 AM by Frank3k »

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Re: A Civilized BV222
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2014, 08:18:01 AM »
thanks Frank

The plane in the link is from 1963 according to the site. Was Lufthansa around in the 1940's? I can only surmise they were but from all the images I have, the Nazi symbol is on the tails. I guess that after the war ended and the Nazi's were defeated that they then removed the sawz sticker and replaced it with a logo of some kind.
That one in the below image - that can't be their very first plane is it?? An American DC9?! I would have thought they have their  own aircraft to use before buying a yank tank. Mind you, my aviation history leaves a lot to be desired....
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Re: A Civilized BV222
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2014, 09:21:04 AM »
The current incarnation of Lufthansa was founded in 1953; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lufthansa

However, Deutsche Luft Hansa A.G. was founded in 1926 & disbanded in 1945; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Luft_Hansa

The article(s) state that there is no legal connection between the 2 incarnations.

There are images, old & new, hope they help.
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Re: A Civilized BV222
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2014, 11:05:56 AM »
So much like where you are going with this civilian build :)
And motorized yet !
« Last Edit: November 26, 2014, 02:05:27 PM by finsrin »

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Re: A Civilized BV222
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2014, 11:49:07 AM »
From what Old Wombat posted, it looks like this would work for markings:


At least for tail markings that had no National Socialist identification.  That "old" link has others with similar markings.

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Re: A Civilized BV222
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2014, 12:55:57 PM »
that works perfectly I think. Who makes decals for this era in time? I'll Google that instead of just being lazy  ;)

After looking at a large amount of pictures on the net, it looks like pretty much all civilian airliners back then were finshied in bare metal. So would doing this in White and silver be not quite right?
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Re: A Civilized BV222
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2014, 03:34:54 PM »
D-AQUI did indeed originally fly with the swastika on the tail, the same codes appear today
on the restored aircraft. Without the swastika flag.


http://www.dlbs.de/en/Fleet/Junkers-JU-52/Timeline.php

If doing a civil aircraft from the Nazi period, from July 1933 to 1945, yer pretty much stuck
with the red flag and swastika on the tail. That's why the Danish and Brazilian schemes for
the Fw 200 have tended to be popular, ditto non-German inter-war schemes for the Ju 52.

Most Luft Hansa aircraft were finished in silber-grau paint, flying boats of various countries used
anodizing or aluminum lacquers/enamels. Dornier and HfB/B-V used paint. Shorts used anodizing
and a coating of lanolin, Boeing used anodizing and paint, Martin and Sikorsky generally used paint.
Straight bare metal didn't work well for waterborne aircraft.

The Germans didn't control their own airspace post-war, so it's likely that it would have been a non-German
entity that would have taken over and operated a BV 222 airliner. The Argenitne possibility makes sense
for several reasons.  ;)
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Re: A Civilized BV222
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2014, 05:14:17 PM »
Oh thanks for that awesome bit of information -that's incredibly helpful :) thank you so much
I also didn't know that about Germans not owning their own airspace, so that helps me with schemes.
Would an Air France one be to outrageous do you think?
Will have to schedule in some major time with Google I think. Lots to think about....
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Re: A Civilized BV222
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2014, 05:49:59 PM »
Dare I suggest Qantas? ???

As Qantas Imperial Airways (partnership with Imperial Airways) they actually operated flying boats from 1934 to 1943 (& post-war, I think).





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